New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread

Kirathis · 10-20-2015, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Thank you for reminding me that we have gone far too long without discussing a new SURFER!

Here. We. Go.

Uh oh...I unleashed the monster LOL!!

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Is Surfer smaller than Hawkeye? Is the Surfer smaller than Panther? Is the Surfer smaller than Machine Man? Wolverine?

I would love if they would make Wolverine all of 5 foot nothing like he is supposed to be....which is saying a lot since I greatly dislike Wolverine. You bring up an excellent point regarding relative size though too. I think it also comes down to where you know Surfer from. When I think Surfer, I immediately think of the Annihilators team pic where they are all walking together. He is about as big as Nova (slightly shorter but more muscular) but somehow still pulls off a fit swimmer/surfer look to me. He is also a bit smaller than Ronin, Beta Ray Bill and Gladiator which is fine from a muscularity point but I think he could easily work with being as tall as they are.

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I think the Grim Reaper bulk would look great on him.

I thought about that as well before suggesting Pizza Spidey but felt it was too bulky for my taste. However, if we are going with a larger buck that for sure would be my choice.

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Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy

Looking back at Ron Lim's artwork (which to me is definitive Surfer), the Bucky Cap mold would best suit him. I think I'll experiment using the Target 3-pack clear Vision as a Surfer base and see how that works out.

Yeah Bucky Cap would also work but man is that thing overused. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with though. We can always count on Zoffy to test build the ideas!!

ultraman zoffy · 10-20-2015, 10:35 PM

Well... here's the quick and dirty of Surfer on the Bucky Cap (well, clear Vision) body. Hit him with several layers of steel and aluminum paint, then gave him a faint clear blue dusting for some accent. Magnets in his feet, and he's pretty good looking. But like Kirathis said, this body is ready to be put out to pasture now. The wobbly hips issue is probably a good indication that the mold is almost donezo. Lol

Spyne98 · 10-21-2015, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy

Well... here's the quick and dirty of Surfer on the Bucky Cap (well, clear Vision) body. Hit him with several layers of steel and aluminum paint, then gave him a faint clear blue dusting for some accent. Magnets in his feet, and he's pretty good looking. But like Kirathis said, this body is ready to be put out to pasture now. The wobbly hips issue is probably a good indication that the mold is almost donezo. Lol

Great work. This mold seems to be rapidly breaking down. Personally, that makes a beautiful Iceman.
Hasbro needs to get some new molds going. I know it's been said, but it's true.

warmachine6 · 10-21-2015, 06:34 AM

Saw diamond selects mini-mates new Deadpool wave and i thought that if marvel legends had a deadpool wave think it should be fairly similar with agent bob, a rebooted domino , siren , and cable and obviously deadpool

TheBlueMarvel · 10-21-2015, 06:46 AM

@Kirathis

lol You brought up Surfer, not me! Scale issues abound within Hasbro's run on the license and Wolverine is only one of many casualties. That said, the best Wolverines for 'scale' are the series 6 and series 12 molds (both Toy Biz), with 12 winning out for being the most accurate (IMO). The most egregious of Hasbro's faux pas in scale are Thor, Crossbones, and the entire Wrecking Crew. They all stand as tall as Warpath, who is a seven-footer in the comics. Last I checked, none of those characters were that tall.

Scale issues have always been a problem within comics as well. Artists and writers take liberties and have their own favorite characters. Fan ideals also affect presentation. The popularity of Iron Man has given him at least 4" over the years that I've known him. As far as Surfer and your reference to which comics you draw your experience from, I agree. It's all subjective. The artists I mentioned earlier are largely considered iconic at Marvel. The 'King' is a legend, the Buscemas created a standard for all Marvel artists in the 60's that carried well into 80's and 90's, and Lim is largely responsible for the 'modern' look of Thanos (the cherished Marvel Select Thanos is the spitting image of his art). Not to disparage Tang En Haut, but I wasn't a big fan of his art on Annihilators. The book in general was a miss and I was more of a fan of the potential for that team, but it fell short because the writers (DnA) tried to bake-in the humor found in GotG with heroes that were much more serious and powerful. I see where you are coming from with Surfer's stature within the Annihilators line-up. However, when I look at that line-up I see Gladiator who has always been portrayed as a very large man, Beta Ray Bill who is larger than Thor, and Ronan who is literally a giant in the comics (a fact that Haut didn't portray well with his odd proportions). As for Nova, he's not small either (and has been illustrated as being roughly the same size as Surfer). As a member of The New Warriors, Nova may have seemed small due to Rage being so huge. I think artists and fans consider Surfer based on 'human' water-sports activities, hence "he should look like a swimmer." When you really think about it, surfer physiques have no meaning to Galactus or Surfer lol The name and the way he travels is more of a cosmic coincidence...and marvel wanting to appeal to teens in the 6o's

In the end, everyone has their own personal interpretation of their favorite heroes!

@Zoffy

Thank you for giving me a glimpse of how spectacular Surfer will look on a new buck!!!

Spyne98 · 10-21-2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by warmachine6

Saw diamond selects mini-mates new Deadpool wave and i thought that if marvel legends had a deadpool wave think it should be fairly similar with agent bob, a rebooted domino , siren , and cable and obviously deadpool

I'd buy that!

Captain Nash · 10-21-2015, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

I'd buy that!

Me too, if for nothing else to get Syrin and rebooted Domino.

Trivial Psychic · 10-21-2015, 10:05 AM

To be fair Kirathis, the Astonishing Wolverine that was released in the Toy Biz Apocalypse BAF wave was fairly tiny, and is close to the scale in terms of height that you were mentioning. (It also happens to be my personal favorite Wolverine figure.)

Captain Nash · 10-21-2015, 10:24 AM

What are the expectations we will see some ANAD Marvel figures next year? I'm in a way shocked we haven't seen FalCap, She-Thor and the new Ms. Marvel, as well as Sam Nova, yet. I'm betting those do come next year (maybe not Nova but the rest) Do you think we'll see the likes of characters like Red Fox, Wolverina, OML any time soon? The last two maybe in that X-Wave...

Exodus · 10-21-2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by warmachine6

Saw diamond selects mini-mates new Deadpool wave and i thought that if marvel legends had a deadpool wave think it should be fairly similar with agent bob, a rebooted domino , siren , and cable and obviously deadpool

Yeah saw that if I still collected the minimates I would totally get this for Domino.

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

Where is my Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. SDCC box set???? THAT would be amazing!!
Dirk Anger
Elsa Bloodstone
The Captain
Monica Rambeau
Tabitha Smith
Aaron Stack

What an interesting team that Boom Boom would be in it.

Kirathis · 10-21-2015, 05:43 PM

@Zoffy
Great job on the Surfer! It would work well if they went that route.

@TBM
I cannot disagree with your overall review of The Annihilators. Definitely not my favorite but it worked from an image standpoint. It would be nice to get some kind of consistency both in comics and figures with the size of characters. I realize every artist has their own interpretation but it gets out of hand. Your points and Zoffy's custom have definitely opened me up to a larger physique Surfer. I will be curious to see if a new one gets made at some point what they choose to use.

redfox · 10-21-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

Where is my Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. SDCC box set???? THAT would be amazing!!
Dirk Anger
Elsa Bloodstone
The Captain
Monica Rambeau
Tabitha Smith
Aaron Stack

Don't forget a certain lounge robe wearing, champagne sipping, revolver toting dinosaur!

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Originally Posted by Exodus

What an interesting team that Boom Boom would be in it.

Very "interesting" indeed. Love Nextwave.

TheBlueMarvel · 10-21-2015, 06:53 PM

@Kirathis

I like your suggestion of greater articulation in the shoulders. Maybe they could create a new buck specifically for this purpose. I'm always down for new bucks! Of course, I also need swap-out hands for any new Surfer: power cosmic blasting hands and fists. We'd also need 'Kirby crackle' power globe accessories to go over the fists! Silver Surfer deserves the full treatment considering there isn't much going on in the way of a costume...

Edit: @redfox

...Nextwave was an awesomely fun read!

Spyne98 · 10-21-2015, 09:06 PM

I miss Nextwave so much

ultraman zoffy · 10-21-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

@Kirathis

I like your suggestion of greater articulation in the shoulders. Maybe they could create a new buck specifically for this purpose. I'm always down for new bucks! Of course, I also need swap-out hands for any new Surfer: power cosmic blasting hands and fists. We'd also need 'Kirby crackle' power globe accessories to go over the fists! Silver Surfer deserves the full treatment considering there isn't much going on in the way of a costume...

Edit: @redfox

...Nextwave was an awesomely fun read!

Funny you mention Surfer alt hands... I just pillaged the open hand off a spare Iceman from the TRU X-Men set for Surfer! He just doesn't work as a double fister. It's incredibly lame clear Vision didn't come with an open expressive hand in the Target set.

Kirathis · 10-21-2015, 09:34 PM

Many thanks to TBM who hooked me up with the chest for my Rhino! Still looking for arms if anyone has any for sale.

TheBlueMarvel · 10-21-2015, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirathis

Many thanks to TBM who hooked me up with the chest for my Rhino! Still looking for arms if anyone has any for sale.

I'm glad I could help and that it arrived to you quickly! I wish I could have helped with the arms as well...

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Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy

Funny you mention Surfer alt hands... I just pillaged the open hand off a spare Iceman from the TRU X-Men set for Surfer! He just doesn't work as a double fister. It's incredibly lame clear Vision didn't come with an open expressive hand in the Target set.

Suffer definitely needs a 'blasting' posture. I hope that Iceman hand isn't too small. Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

Augustus_Cole · 10-22-2015, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirathis

Many thanks to TBM who hooked me up with the chest for my Rhino! Still looking for arms if anyone has any for sale.

HA...right there is exactly how much i have of the rhino...i wish i had other parts as well...but i'm just not buying figures again to make a BAF (read: Hulkbuster)

ultraman zoffy · 10-22-2015, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

I'm glad I could help and that it arrived to you quickly! I wish I could have helped with the arms as well...

Suffer definitely needs a 'blasting' posture. I hope that Iceman hand isn't too small. Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

The Iceman hand works, but I'm planning to repaint the karate chop spare hands from Iron Fist and use them on Surfer... they' going to make killer surfin' or blastin' gestures. =) He'll be getting a full repaint too since I just threw the sloppy silver paint job on him as a proof of concept that would let us all know if the Bucky base would work good enough.

TheBlueMarvel · 10-22-2015, 10:18 AM

@Zoffy

Sounds great and I'm excited to see your finished product!

Phantomcrow · 10-22-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirathis

Many thanks to TBM who hooked me up with the chest for my Rhino! Still looking for arms if anyone has any for sale.

I have a couple extra Left arms if you need one. Since I have bought 4 Chameleon at present, I have a couple extra since I only plan to maybe build 2 Rhino if I can find parts cheep.

VonPooten · 10-22-2015, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy

Funny you mention Surfer alt hands... I just pillaged the open hand off a spare Iceman from the TRU X-Men set for Surfer! He just doesn't work as a double fister. It's incredibly lame clear Vision didn't come with an open expressive hand in the Target set.

Odd as it is to say, that hand was thoroughly underrated! Loved its form as a simple, outstretched power hand. If only they could dial its size up a fraction and add it to other figures such as Magneto and Doctor Strange as an alternative to their current digits.

K Dubious · 10-22-2015, 12:03 PM

Quick question on the topic of arms and hands.

Did Hasbro Use the Klaw buck for any other figures?

I like how small he is and wanted to use it for a custom, but I need someone with...you know...two arms and hands, lol.

*Edit: Pizza Spider-Man is probably a better choice for what I want, I hate the hips that Klaw has...

TheBlueMarvel · 10-22-2015, 12:18 PM

@Dubious
Klaw/Vision(Hasbro)/Surfer(Hasbro)/Iceman(Hasbro) = same buck.

jedirulz123 · 10-22-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by K Dubious

I'm a traitor to the Marvel Universe line, the thread, and David Vonner himself, I'm doing as Dwight Stall wants and buying Legends because I'm a sheep

You should be ashamed of yourself K Dub haha

10-20-2015, 10:35 PM	#10177
ultraman zoffy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,024	Well... here's the quick and dirty of Surfer on the Bucky Cap (well, clear Vision) body. Hit him with several layers of steel and aluminum paint, then gave him a faint clear blue dusting for some accent. Magnets in his feet, and he's pretty good looking. But like Kirathis said, this body is ready to be put out to pasture now. The wobbly hips issue is probably a good indication that the mold is almost donezo. Lol Attached Thumbnails

10-21-2015, 06:01 AM	#10178
Spyne98 Rock Nerd Radio Host Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New York Posts: 2,885	Quote: Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy Well... here's the quick and dirty of Surfer on the Bucky Cap (well, clear Vision) body. Hit him with several layers of steel and aluminum paint, then gave him a faint clear blue dusting for some accent. Magnets in his feet, and he's pretty good looking. But like Kirathis said, this body is ready to be put out to pasture now. The wobbly hips issue is probably a good indication that the mold is almost donezo. Lol Great work. This mold seems to be rapidly breaking down. Personally, that makes a beautiful Iceman. Hasbro needs to get some new molds going. I know it's been said, but it's true. __________________ Sale Thread / Feedback / The Rock Nerd Radio Show

10-21-2015, 06:46 AM	#10180
TheBlueMarvel MarvelLegends/DCUniverse Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: On the metaphysical plane of celestial BOOM BAP! Posts: 6,019	@Kirathis lol You brought up Surfer, not me! Scale issues abound within Hasbro's run on the license and Wolverine is only one of many casualties. That said, the best Wolverines for 'scale' are the series 6 and series 12 molds (both Toy Biz), with 12 winning out for being the most accurate (IMO). The most egregious of Hasbro's faux pas in scale are Thor, Crossbones, and the entire Wrecking Crew. They all stand as tall as Warpath, who is a seven-footer in the comics. Last I checked, none of those characters were that tall. Scale issues have always been a problem within comics as well. Artists and writers take liberties and have their own favorite characters. Fan ideals also affect presentation. The popularity of Iron Man has given him at least 4" over the years that I've known him. As far as Surfer and your reference to which comics you draw your experience from, I agree. It's all subjective. The artists I mentioned earlier are largely considered iconic at Marvel. The 'King' is a legend, the Buscemas created a standard for all Marvel artists in the 60's that carried well into 80's and 90's, and Lim is largely responsible for the 'modern' look of Thanos (the cherished Marvel Select Thanos is the spitting image of his art). Not to disparage Tang En Haut, but I wasn't a big fan of his art on Annihilators. The book in general was a miss and I was more of a fan of the potential for that team, but it fell short because the writers (DnA) tried to bake-in the humor found in GotG with heroes that were much more serious and powerful. I see where you are coming from with Surfer's stature within the Annihilators line-up. However, when I look at that line-up I see Gladiator who has always been portrayed as a very large man, Beta Ray Bill who is larger than Thor, and Ronan who is literally a giant in the comics (a fact that Haut didn't portray well with his odd proportions). As for Nova, he's not small either (and has been illustrated as being roughly the same size as Surfer). As a member of The New Warriors, Nova may have seemed small due to Rage being so huge. I think artists and fans consider Surfer based on 'human' water-sports activities, hence "he should look like a swimmer." When you really think about it, surfer physiques have no meaning to Galactus or Surfer lol The name and the way he travels is more of a cosmic coincidence...and marvel wanting to appeal to teens in the 6o's In the end, everyone has their own personal interpretation of their favorite heroes! @Zoffy Thank you for giving me a glimpse of how spectacular Surfer will look on a new buck!!! Last edited by TheBlueMarvel; 10-21-2015 at 06:03 PM..

10-21-2015, 07:56 AM	#10181
Spyne98 Rock Nerd Radio Host Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New York Posts: 2,885	Quote: Originally Posted by warmachine6 Saw diamond selects mini-mates new Deadpool wave and i thought that if marvel legends had a deadpool wave think it should be fairly similar with agent bob, a rebooted domino , siren , and cable and obviously deadpool I'd buy that! __________________ Sale Thread / Feedback / The Rock Nerd Radio Show

10-21-2015, 09:06 PM	#10189
Spyne98 Rock Nerd Radio Host Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New York Posts: 2,885	I miss Nextwave so much __________________ Sale Thread / Feedback / The Rock Nerd Radio Show