[jwyss234]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

After reading about two reviews on here....stating that Space Venom was an okay read...and in anticipation of the new BAF's release...
I just read issues #1-4 of the series and.....
No Thank you!!...do not like..do not want.
A "purged of evil" symbiote with a leg-less Eugene "Flash" Thomson playing Space Cop...PASS!

I felt no attachment to the character...don't care for where they've taken the Symbiote's origins..

Please bring back (and i'm sure it will happen SOMEDAY) the villanous, insane, manical, Spider-man-blood thirsty, crazy symbiote we all know and love.

I think they are bringing back the old Venom. Marvel released a poster for a new Venom series that showed a more traditional looking Venom. I think they said Flash would no longer be Venom but they never said if Brock was taking the symbiote back.

[TheBlueMarvel]

How long until Marvel re-boots back to the old boot just as DC is currently doing?

Apparently, no one cares about this non-sense with the Hulk. I've always known that Hulk fans, like myself, were far and few between...but the silence has been deafening on the internet. Of course, he will likely return...then again, maybe not given the lack of response to the character's demise. My fandom today, yours tomorrow...

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

How long until Marvel re-boots back to the old boot just as DC is currently doing?

When Joe Q and BMB are no longer with Marvel.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

How long until Marvel re-boots back to the old boot just as DC is currently doing?

Apparently, no one cares about this non-sense with the Hulk. I've always known that Hulk fans, like myself, were far and few between...but the silence has been deafening on the internet. Of course, he will likely return...then again, maybe not given the lack of response to the character's demise. My fandom today, yours tomorrow...

I sir too...am a Hulk fan. I WISH the book was constantly written in a way that was relative and interesting. Unfortunately that's usually not the case. It seems like they're always at a round table trying to come up with some cockamamie (i have never used that word before in my life and thought it would now be fitting..HA) idea for the Hulk. There have been highlights over time...but mostly...meh. I mean come on....IT'S THE HULK...HE WRECKS SHIT...) how is there not a top writer on this.??
...and of COURSE he'll be back...as soon as someone cant' come up with something better to write about...BOOM!...like he never died.

*side note* in our new Legends\Comic thread(heh).... I read the first two issues of the new cap after hearing the STUPID news of him being Hydra...and ...I like the story...but of course..there was more to it.


*side SIDE note*: I saw a seller on Amazon(whilst shopping for wifey) had the new Spider_Man set of 6 figs for the exact same price as Dorkside (who I placed a pre-order with) Dude said they are in hand and ready to ship...sooooooo...I never have problems with Amazon so...i cancelled my pre-order with Dorks...and ordered from Amazon....we shall see how this plays out.

[Tim]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

I sir too...am a Hulk fan. I WISH the book was constantly written in a way that was relative and interesting. Unfortunately that's usually not the case. It seems like they're always at a round table trying to come up with some cockamamie (i have never used that word before in my life and thought it would now be fitting..HA) idea for the Hulk. There have been highlights over time...but mostly...meh.
...and of COURSE he'll be back...as soon as someone cant' come up with something better to write about...BOOM...like he never died.

I haven't read a new marvel book in a while but i am guessing that These are still not as bad a some of those Dc New 52 crap.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by Tim

I haven't read a new marvel book in a while but i am guessing that These are still not as bad a some of those Dc New 52 crap.

over the last month i'm catching up on both DC and Marvel and the majority of what i'm reading is decent.
OH...just read: Civil War: Kingpin
man..i'd LOVE to have this as a monthly, written well....cause Fisk can be a deep and complex character.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

*side SIDE note*: I saw a seller on Amazon(whilst shopping for wifey) had the new Spider_Man set of 6 figs for the exact same price as Dorkside (who I placed a pre-order with) Dude said they are in hand and ready to ship...sooooooo...I never have problems with Amazon so...i cancelled my pre-order with Dorks...and ordered from Amazon....we shall see how this plays out.

Good luck, I hope it wasn't a situation where it appeared it was in hand as it didn't indicate pre-order, but actually was still for preorder like the X-Men wave I almost bought a month ago. I really wish Amazon had stricter policies for third party sellers if the items are still on preorder through them.

That said I would guess it's possible. I thought the Cap wave 3 would be shipping before Spider-man, but it seems like that' not the case. I did see Silk, Hobgoblin and Electro (the only ones I'm interested in) on order for around the $40 mark on average (Electro a bit less Silk a bit more), and they said it would be "in stock" July 16..soo...it may work out for you.


PS on Hulk returning, I wouldn't be surprised if BMB just wanted to use him in a future story and writes him as being alive...no explanation of return, no cares of the continuity even the continuity he himself wrote, just wants to use the character even though he's dead, so he does.

[Boy Blunder]

I kind of hope he stays dead. Nothing against Bruce, either as his own character or as the Hulk, but I've just found myself bored with a lot of the 'classic' heroes as they are.

I'm a longtime Marvel fan, but I gotta say that I hadn't felt excited about reading the happenings of the 616 universe for years, until All-New All-Different Marvel happened (well, that and some of the Marvel NOW! lead-up before Secret Wars). With so many characters either voluntarily leaving their mantles or being unable to continue for some reason or another, there was a wealth of possibility going on. Sam Wilson as Cap? Laura Kinney taking over as Wolverine? This was crazy, and I was excited. I was ready to give Marvel a ton of money to read all these books. Even if it was 'classic' or formulaic stories, they'd be told with a different character having different reactions and different resolutions, so I could dig it. Marvel was making me care about their stories again, and not just my personal ideas of the characters. Hell, I never even gave two scoops about GotG before Bendis came along, and I'm not ashamed to say that.

Which is why all this 'returning to status quo' crap is just making me drop books left and right. Well, that and the endless stream of crossovers they've been doing. And it sucks, because while I don't hate Peter Parker or Steve Rogers or whoever, these guys have been in the tights for longer than I've been alive. Even factoring in comic-book time, it really is time for, to paraphrase the Odinson, the old order to changeth.

[Captain Nash]

I think the changes are fine if they make sense. If there is an actual reason in story that's not just some thinly veiled cover for PC. If the relationship between the old and new characters works in such a way that there is either A: logical history between the characters that it makes sense for the change or B: if there is an singular (or handful) of events in which the change is either a matter of honor between the characters (like if character A sacrificed their life/powers for character B, and character B felt honor bound to carry on the legacy), or if the decision was taken out of their hands and the they had no choice but for the switch.

I think the Sam Wilson as Captain America made perfect sense. I think X-23 as Wolverine makes perfect sense as well.

I'm not so sure the Nova, Hulk, and upcoming Iron Man switches make sense. Don't get me started on Thor. Thor is a name, not a code-name. I'm actually totally fine with Jane Foster being in the ROLE of what is she is doing -- in fact I think it's one of the more interesting concepts -- but she needed to have a different name and that really is my only gripe with it for me.

The Spider-man and Ms. Marvel switches are a little different because you do have the originals around in some capacity. It's not a technical 100% replacement. Hawkeye/Kate Bishop is the same way.

I heard there's a new Wasp but I don't know enough of that situation to adequately judge it, as I also under Jan's still around?

The original 5 teen X-men are a situation unique all unto themselves.


And it's not like Marvel hasn't done things like this before. There's been several Spider-women and Ghost Riders. Iron Man has been more than just Tony Stark in the past. All the Ant-Mans..mens..Manses? It just seems for the most part the replacements are all teens, geared towards a new generation, and all being done as an agenda of PC-ism.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Good luck, I hope it wasn't a situation where it appeared it was in hand as it didn't indicate pre-order, but actually was still for preorder like the X-Men wave I almost bought a month ago. I really wish Amazon had stricter policies for third party sellers if the items are still on preorder through them.

That said I would guess it's possible. I thought the Cap wave 3 would be shipping before Spider-man, but it seems like that' not the case. I did see Silk, Hobgoblin and Electro (the only ones I'm interested in) on order for around the $40 mark on average (Electro a bit less Silk a bit more), and they said it would be "in stock" July 16..soo...it may work out for you.

Dude specifically said that they ship IMMEDIATELY...so...there's that. Again..we'll see.
..and i've seen all of the spider wave in various places for $25.00 NOW....except Silk...she was like 35.00. one spot had em all for 162.00 (shipped)...but that was over the 145.00 i wanted to pay.

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I think the changes are fine if they make sense. If there is an actual reason in story that's not just some thinly veiled cover for PC. If the relationship between the old and new characters works in such a way that there is either A: logical history between the characters that it makes sense for the change or B: if there is an singular (or handful) of events in which the change is either a matter of honor between the characters (like if character A sacrificed their life/powers for character B, and character B felt honor bound to carry on the legacy), or if the decision was taken out of their hands and the they had no choice but for the switch.
I'm not so sure the Nova, Hulk, and upcoming Iron Man switches make sense. Don't get me started on Thor. Thor is a name, not a code-name.

I agree with you 100% on this...and i have thought the same exact thing about Thor.
..and i look at the newly coming Riri as Iron-man and i'm like...WTF?!?!
Now dont get me wrong..I love women...and especially black women..haha...but for the love of all that's holy will this switchover make ANY LOGICAL SENSE. it's PC nonsense for sure..l.BUT..i will reserve my actual opinion until AFTER i read the story arc.

[lordbest]

My only problem with Riri Williams is that I am skeptical of Bendis' ability to write a teenage black girl genius convincingly when he is none of those things.

[Captain Nash]

You know, I was thinking, if it was revealed she was actually RiRi Rhodes, and daughter of James Rhodes War Machine, it would make 100 times more sense. But Nooooooooo. Let's just put some random person we made up 3 months ago into the mantle of one of our biggest cash cows.

[SymbiSpidey]

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Originally Posted by jwyss234

I think they are bringing back the old Venom. Marvel released a poster for a new Venom series that showed a more traditional looking Venom. I think they said Flash would no longer be Venom but they never said if Brock was taking the symbiote back.

That's unfortunate. Flash Thompson was probably my favorite Venom until they made him a space cop.

Can't we just have two versions of Venom running around please?

[Captain Nash]

Ugh saw close ups of Spider-Bi-- err. Ashely Barton. I kind of want that figure now. Up close she's really cool looking. So that's now four of the 6...i guess I should just order the wave...sodon'tgiveafrackaboutSpaceVenom.

Okay, just ordered through BBTS. Once I get it, if someone wants the BAF pieces for Space Venom I can send them out. I'd prefer to send to someone who wants the whole figure and has no parts so nothing goes to waste, but whatever works.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

You know, I was thinking, if it was revealed she was actually RiRi Rhodes, and daughter of James Rhodes War Machine, it would make 100 times more sense. But Nooooooooo. Let's just put some random person we made up 3 months ago into the mantle of one of our biggest cash cows.

HA...that would have been great...especially in light of what's going on right now....

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Can't we just have two versions of Venom running around please?

seems that would be SIMPLE to write in and easily believable..

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Ugh saw close ups of Spider-Bi-- err. Ashely Barton. I kind of want that figure now. Up close she's really cool looking.

you meant HOT right...lol

[SymbiSpidey]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

seems that would be SIMPLE to write in and easily believable..

Very simple. Just clone the original symbiote lol.

[Tim]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

over the last month i'm catching up on both DC and Marvel and the majority of what i'm reading is decent.
OH...just read: Civil War: Kingpin
man..i'd LOVE to have this as a monthly, written well....cause Fisk can be a deep and complex character.

Yeah I'm going to get that I have always love Daredevil and his enemies. I need to get back at reading the new marvel comics I haven't read one in over three years. Thanks man

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

How long until Marvel re-boots back to the old boot just as DC is currently doing?

Apparently, no one cares about this non-sense with the Hulk. I've always known that Hulk fans, like myself, were far and few between...but the silence has been deafening on the internet. Of course, he will likely return...then again, maybe not given the lack of response to the character's demise. My fandom today, yours tomorrow...

What did happen to the Hulk last I saw it was Cho who's the Hulk...

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

I sir too...am a Hulk fan. I WISH the book was constantly written in a way that was relative and interesting. Unfortunately that's usually not the case. It seems like they're always at a round table trying to come up with some cockamamie (i have never used that word before in my life and thought it would now be fitting..HA) idea for the Hulk. There have been highlights over time...but mostly...meh. I mean come on....IT'S THE HULK...HE WRECKS SHIT...) how is there not a top writer on this.??
...and of COURSE he'll be back...as soon as someone cant' come up with something better to write about...BOOM!...like he never died.

*side note* in our new Legends\Comic thread(heh).... I read the first two issues of the new cap after hearing the STUPID news of him being Hydra...and ...I like the story...but of course..there was more to it.


*side SIDE note*: I saw a seller on Amazon(whilst shopping for wifey) had the new Spider_Man set of 6 figs for the exact same price as Dorkside (who I placed a pre-order with) Dude said they are in hand and ready to ship...sooooooo...I never have problems with Amazon so...i cancelled my pre-order with Dorks...and ordered from Amazon....we shall see how this plays out.

I hear you, man. The Hulk has long since gone off the rails. In the last 10-15yrs, Peter David and Greg Pak have written the most significant stories about the character. Which is unfortunate, because the Hulk has a great deal of depth for compelling story-writing. With a background in mental health, which gives me an inherent bias, Bruce's spit personality disorder borne of the abuse at the hands of his father makes for fascinating subject matter...IMO. Also, the link between his PTSD-related fits of rage (perfect for the manifestation of his power) and his deep-seated feelings of inadequacy, create a great deal of relatability for many readers. Hulk rocks in my book...this onion is much more complex than just 'Hulk smash,' but many can't get beyond the superficial layers.

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@Exodus

I'm not trying to get into it, man...I'm that disgusted...suffice it to say, he's dead...shot in the head as a gimmick 'shake-up' event. Much like the BS with Namor, another favorite of mine. I'm sure Surfer's next...

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by Exodus

What did happen to the Hulk last I saw it was Cho who's the Hulk...

It happened...NOW *edit* July 19th i think..

oh and is THAT who the Hulk with the styling gel is...lol...I hadn't read that Hulk book cause it looked dumb.

@BM
Remember during War World Hulk when he came back and was f*^$ing EVERYBODY up.....remember?? ..yeah...just..remember...lol

[XW1n5t0nX]

Alright so I called my local Wal-Mart to see if they had the CW Falcon and Bucky in stock. Unfortunately they said no. However the person on the phone did give me some information though. She said that her new stock of figures will be coming in August. So while I can't say how true this will be for every store, it seems that late July or sometime in August will be when these really start popping up.

[Tim]

Is the Space venom wave going to be sold at Target and Walmart? Because i want that Electro.

[Augustus_Cole]

You know...once upon a time, many moons ago, I threw a thinly-veiled criticism at (self-appointed)King Raf for buying so many figures at once (of a set) and not enjoying the thrill of the hunt....
*sigh*...he had it right the whole time...MANNNNNN F@#$ THE HUNT...LOL
you show me a place where i can order everything online from every wave and I'll show you a place I'll be spending all my hard earned money..
Sorry Raf..hahah


and oh yeah...@BM
remember the Ultimate Hulk who used to REALLY FUGG eveything up (including innocents dying)..and did it all while walking around with his junk hanging out......now that was an OG right there...lol....at least it was written in an interesting fashion...

[Tim]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

You know...once upon a time, many moons ago, I threw a thinly-veiled criticism at (self-appointed)King Raf for buying so many figures at once (of a set) and not enjoying the thrill of the hunt....
*sigh*...he had it right the whole time...MANNNNNN F@#$ THE HUNT...LOL
you show me a place where i can order everything online from every wave and I'll show you a place I'll be spending all my hard earned money..
Sorry Raf..hahah


and oh yeah...@BM
remember the Ultimate Hulk who used to REALLY FUGG eveything up (including innocents dying)..and did it all while walking around with his junk hanging out......now that was an OG right there...lol....at least it was written in an interesting fashion...

I hear ya I do get tired of searching for the one figure left you need and they have all of them but him. Because someone either bought all of them and is going to sell em online. Most stores suck at getting the new stuff anyway like my TRU still has a damn Klaw figure which is crazy.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

@BM
Remember during War World Hulk when he came back and was f*^$ing EVERYBODY up.....remember?? ..yeah...just..remember...lol

Yeah, b. It may sound strange, but I'm feeling some sort of emotional tumult over this...been brooding since the news broke, almost as if I were in mourning...

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

and oh yeah...@BM
remember the Ultimate Hulk who used to REALLY FUGG eveything up (including innocents dying)..and did it all while walking around with his junk hanging out......now that was an OG right there...lol....at least it was written in an interesting fashion...

Y'know, I've said it before and no one seems to listen (online buds, or real-time buds...it's weird), but I'm not a big fan of the Ultimate books and have never read any of them (was 'Supreme Power' Ultimate or Max?...I read that). However, since you've mentioned it, that factoid about Ultimate Hulk sounds very much like the 'The Last Avenger Story' a premium two-part book from the 90's...now that was a dope story...check it out if you get the chance.