[Starlord67]

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

Put me down for more X-Men! I love my mutants.

Right there with you!! Two or three X-MEN waves would be perfect. Give Spider-Man a bit of a respite... Not gone all together.. And more villains in the future! I'd also like more "street heroes" like Shang chi and Cloak and Dagger. More Thunderbolts... Don't let Songbird be released alone. Citizen V and the others with an Atlas BAF would be great!!

[redx24]

Dropping my AOU Hulkbuster and onslaught for 50$ each shipped u.s. only. Sorry to my foreign homeys

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I say forget the XMEN...how about a wave or two of villians, regardless of the teams they battle against? Hero characters outnumber the bad guys like 3 to one at this point.

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I know I'm going to get some grief for this, but I say why not just have 1 Spider-Man wave a year and get in some more X-Men waves.

If that were to get me a wave featuring an actually good classic Magneto, classic Sabertooth, classic Mr Sinister, BAF classic Apocalypse (that isn't 9000 feet tall), classic Mystique, Brood, Lady Deathbird, Sauron, and classic Sabestian Shaw, then I'm all for it.

Although, I do still need Shocker, Mysterio, Doc Ock, Morlun, The Enforcers, Kingpin, Scorpion, and Vulture for my Spidey villains.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Although, I do still need Shocker, Mysterio, Doc Ock, Morlun, The Enforcers, Kingpin, Scorpion, and Vulture for my Spidey villains.

But really, as far as the "must get at some point" spider-man villains, that's all that is left. Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, Dr. Octopus, Morlun, Scorpion and Kingpin (which would be a BAF I imagine.)

Rather than give us 1-2 of those in a wave and pad it with variants of Spider-Men (or worse IMO variants of Spider-Man's extended non villain cast), just give us a whole wave of higher tier villains, much like they did with the lower tier villains for the Absorbing Man wave.

I mean, I realize every single character out there has someone who'd want them made. But realistically how far can they stretch the Spider-Man line. How many variants can we get of Spider-Man until it's just too much? I think I've answered this for myself with this upcoming wave, which I have no interest in getting unless the BAF is Dr. Octopus, but I can imagine honestly that just standard Spider-Man would sell better than "variant for one story arc" Spider-Man, so there's no real justification for having so many.

Sorry, I don't mean for this to turn into a rant. I do like Spider-Man, I just would like to see less of him and more of other characters.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

But really, as far as the "must get at some point" spider-man villains, that's all that is left. Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, Dr. Octopus, Morlun, Scorpion and Kingpin (which would be a BAF I imagine.)

Rather than give us 1-2 of those in a wave and pad it with variants of Spider-Men (or worse IMO variants of Spider-Man's extended non villain cast), just give us a whole wave of higher tier villains, much like they did with the lower tier villains for the Absorbing Man wave.

I mean, I realize every single character out there has someone who'd want them made. But realistically how far can they stretch the Spider-Man line. How many variants can we get of Spider-Man until it's just too much? I think I've answered this for myself with this upcoming wave, which I have no interest in getting unless the BAF is Dr. Octopus, but I can imagine honestly that just standard Spider-Man would sell better than "variant for one story arc" Spider-Man, so there's no real justification for having so many.

Sorry, I don't mean for this to turn into a rant. I do like Spider-Man, I just would like to see less of him and more of other characters.

Just look at my sig, that's how many spider-man variants they can make. However i still think there are tons more villians they can produce. From classic appearances to modern, let's not forget spidey's supporting characters as well.

[Trivial Psychic]

All I'm saying is that it's time to start giving the heroes a break. We just received a new X-Men wave that featured only one villian, and another on is on the horizon with no villians (unless you count Polaris from her Marauder years.) The Spidey and Avenger waves have only been doing slightly better. What's the point of having all these merry mutants and spiderman if they have nobody to battle against? The Raft box set was a good start, now I would like to see some more. Perhaps the villians can each dominate a wave for each line, allowing us to build up. For example...

For the Cap/Avengers wave: an entire wave featuring either the Dark Avengers, Serpent Society, or Masters of Evil.

Spiderman wave: More street level villians like Stiltman, Menace, Jigsaw, Mr. Negative, and missing Sinister Six and Sinister 12 members. Maybe even the Life Foundation symbiotes teased with this year's fan votes.

And XMEN: The Hellfire Club and Marauders would be perfect, and Apocalypse has had all kinds of cronies and horsemen in the past as well. You can even fill out some more spaces with missing Dark Avengers members that didn't get in the Cap wave.

I know everyone wants more mutants, but honestly, a little more balance from Hasbro would be more appealing to me at this point.

[Veronica Mars]

My current WIP

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

All I'm saying is that it's time to start giving the heroes a break. We just received a new X-Men wave that featured only one villian, and another on is on the horizon with no villians (unless you count Polaris from her Marauder years.) The Spidey and Avenger waves have only been doing slightly better. What's the point of having all these merry mutants and spiderman if they have nobody to battle against? The Raft box set was a good start, now I would like to see some more. Perhaps the villians can each dominate a wave for each line, allowing us to build up. For example...

For the Cap/Avengers wave: an entire wave featuring either the Dark Avengers, Serpent Society, or Masters of Evil.

Spiderman wave: More street level villians like Stiltman, Menace, Jigsaw, Mr. Negative, and missing Sinister Six and Sinister 12 members. Maybe even the Life Foundation symbiotes teased with this year's fan votes.

And XMEN: The Hellfire Club and Marauders would be perfect, and Apocalypse has had all kinds of cronies and horsemen in the past as well. You can even fill out some more spaces with missing Dark Avengers members that didn't get in the Cap wave.

I know everyone wants more mutants, but honestly, a little more balance from Hasbro would be more appealing to me at this point.

I do want more villains. But as I look through my most wanted I'm surprised at how few, less than I'd think. Selene, Graviton, Count Nefaria, Exodus, Wizard, Maximus, Morgan Le Fay, Deathbird, Sebastian Shaw, Sauron, Shadow King, Nimrod, Typhoid Mary, Attuma, M'Baku, Crimson Cowl, Vulcan, Titania, Sin, Goblin Queen, Killmonger, Living Lazer, Morlun, The Hood, Emplate and and Black Swan would do it for me. That's only 26. It may seem like a long list typed out but I really don't think 26 villains is a ton. And that's from like my top 60 or so. I honestly thought it would be more than that.

That is all of course not counting the Thunderbolts as villains, otherwise you'd have to add a few.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

All I'm saying is that it's time to start giving the heroes a break. We just received a new X-Men wave that featured only one villian, and another on is on the horizon with no villians (unless you count Polaris from her Marauder years.) The Spidey and Avenger waves have only been doing slightly better. What's the point of having all these merry mutants and spiderman if they have nobody to battle against? The Raft box set was a good start, now I would like to see some more. Perhaps the villians can each dominate a wave for each line, allowing us to build up. For example...

For the Cap/Avengers wave: an entire wave featuring either the Dark Avengers, Serpent Society, or Masters of Evil.

Spiderman wave: More street level villians like Stiltman, Menace, Jigsaw, Mr. Negative, and missing Sinister Six and Sinister 12 members. Maybe even the Life Foundation symbiotes teased with this year's fan votes.

And XMEN: The Hellfire Club and Marauders would be perfect, and Apocalypse has had all kinds of cronies and horsemen in the past as well. You can even fill out some more spaces with missing Dark Avengers members that didn't get in the Cap wave.

I know everyone wants more mutants, but honestly, a little more balance from Hasbro would be more appealing to me at this point.

If they wanted to get crazy they could technically start putting out more then one wave at a time, for certain lines of legends. example Spider-man legends Heroes, spider-man legends villians etc. that could also work. i mean yea, most of us would complain, however im sure some people wouldnt mind. to be quite honest with you. i have 10 spider-man villains on my shelve not including the selects in the back of that shelf.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

If they wanted to get crazy they could technically start putting out more then one wave at a time, for certain lines of legends. example Spider-man legends Heroes, spider-man legends villians etc. that could also work. i mean yea, most of us would complain, however im sure some people wouldnt mind. to be quite honest with you. i have 10 spider-man villains on my shelve not including the selects in the back of that shelf.

Great idea!

X-Men Heroes and X-Men Villains, total of 16 figures forming a huuuuuge Sentinel!

[TheBlueMarvel]

@Trivial

Don't sweat it, man. I've been calling for more villains for years, going so far as to suggest an entire villain wave with accompanying villain BAF. The most hilarious thing, as I see it, are the fans that call for a remake of a hero that was just made because the latest version does not represent their favorite costume. Eventually, when Hasbro sales begin to flag, they'll realize that maybe they sold one too many Spidey UK's, or maybe Cyclops didn't really need that update in that one particular outfit after all. At that point, we might get a Count Nefaria (along the lines of Zoffy's creation)...Graviton...Super Adaptoid...Mad Thinker and his Awesome Android...Kurse...U-Foes...Zzzax...Mr Hyde...etc.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Great idea!

X-Men Heroes and X-Men Villains, total of 16 figures forming a huuuuuge Sentinel!

I could see it happening. do i always want every figure that comes in every wave? not all the time, however there are some waves where you just want them ALL.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

I could see it happening. do i always want every figure that comes in every wave? not all the time, however there are some waves where you just want them ALL.

Well, I had a thought on this actually though it wasn't for simultaneous releases or designated hero and villain waves. I thought about once we get all or most of the core X-Men figures done by Hasbro in some form, if they did two waves solely of alternate outfits, or maybe threw in one new character in each wave for fan service.

Like we know almost for sure we'll get a Jim Lee White Outfit Storm. We also have a lot of people who want FA Storm. She could be in that. An alternate Rogue (similar to her hooded modernish look or Outback), Outback Dazzler, incarnations of outfits from Grant Morrison's new X-Men. Armored Outback Psylocke, White Outfit Magneto. Blue Outfit Shadowcat. Things of that nature that would really reach out to fan service, knowing there weren't going to be any or minimal new characters.
And spread out over two waves so you have 16 pieces to build a Sentinel that could be close to two feet tall.

Think of it like a Greatest Hits, but Remixed version of the X-Wave.

[Dr Kain]

What is Outback Dazzler and Outback Rogue?

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

But really, as far as the "must get at some point" spider-man villains, that's all that is left. Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, Dr. Octopus, Morlun, Scorpion and Kingpin (which would be a BAF I imagine.)

Well there are more like Demogoblin, Rose, Beetle (original), Shriek, Carrion, the Tinkerer, an actual Silvermane, Tombstone, Prowler, Vault Guardsman, Silver Sable, Lizard, and Smythe, but I was just listing the ones off the top of my head. Oh, and then there are like the 2 billion different symbiotes.

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But realistically how far can they stretch the Spider-Man line. How many variants can we get of Spider-Man until it's just too much

Well there's Toei Spider-Man, Noir, Steve Ditko Spidey, Erik Larsen Spidey, Romita Sr Spidey, Superior's second version, Cyberpunk Spidey, Steampunk Spidey, the Seabiscuit Spidey, Iron Spidey, mutant Spidey, fully mutated Spidey, Spider Armor, Spidey with Doc Ock's arms, Unlimited Spidey, and more.

[Trivial Psychic]

@Dr Kain: What is Outback Dazzler and Outback Rogue?

Dazzler in her baby blue outfit with the yellow prism on her chest, and Rogue in her the green and black "swimsuit" outfit. Starlord and I did a customs of both recently and posted them here some time ago.

[LapuLapu]

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

My current WIP

Thats awesome, did you make that cast??

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Well, I had a thought on this actually though it wasn't for simultaneous releases or designated hero and villain waves. I thought about once we get all or most of the core X-Men figures done by Hasbro in some form, if they did two waves solely of alternate outfits, or maybe threw in one new character in each wave for fan service.

Like we know almost for sure we'll get a Jim Lee White Outfit Storm. We also have a lot of people who want FA Storm. She could be in that. An alternate Rogue (similar to her hooded modernish look or Outback), Outback Dazzler, incarnations of outfits from Grant Morrison's new X-Men. Armored Outback Psylocke, White Outfit Magneto. Blue Outfit Shadowcat. Things of that nature that would really reach out to fan service, knowing there weren't going to be any or minimal new characters.
And spread out over two waves so you have 16 pieces to build a Sentinel that could be close to two feet tall.

Think of it like a Greatest Hits, but Remixed version of the X-Wave.

I'd be all in for that !! Especially with doing this with spidey waves. Now if we can only get better distribution for these toys to every state and store and more cordinated release dates lol

[Tim]

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

My current WIP

Man that is badass!!!!

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

If that were to get me a wave featuring an actually good classic Magneto, classic Sabertooth, classic Mr Sinister, BAF classic Apocalypse (that isn't 9000 feet tall), classic Mystique, Brood, Lady Deathbird, Sauron, and classic Sabestian Shaw, then I'm all for it.

Although, I do still need Shocker, Mysterio, Doc Ock, Morlun, The Enforcers, Kingpin, Scorpion, and Vulture for my Spidey villains.

Thats what i ve been saying too we need hasbro to make updates to shocker, Myserio, Scorpion and vulture hell i would also need Prowler and Mirage.

[Harbinger]

They could make the slingers too.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

@Dr Kain: What is Outback Dazzler and Outback Rogue?

Dazzler in her baby blue outfit with the yellow prism on her chest, and Rogue in her the green and black "swimsuit" outfit. Starlord and I did a customs of both recently and posted them here some time ago.

Oh, so the costumes they wore in the late 80s during the Fall of the Mutants story?

[Starlord67]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Oh, so the costumes they wore in the late 80s during the Fall of the Mutants story?

Yep...that's the ones

[Starlord67]

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

My current WIP

Sweet...I'm working on the same thing. How are you planning on doing the cape?

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Starlord67

Yep...that's the ones

Okay. I thought when you said Outback that they went to Austrlia or there was an Australian comic that had them in special costumes.

[Veronica Mars]

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Originally Posted by LapuLapu

Thats awesome, did you make that cast??

No I bought a cast of the Jubilee wave Storm head and modified it to work with the MS Storm hair and crown

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Originally Posted by Starlord67

Sweet...I'm working on the same thing. How are you planning on doing the cape?

I'm going to see if I can make the toybiz Legends cape work, otherwise I have the MS cape, I just wish it wasn't so rigid

[Boy Blunder]

Most successful week in a while, thanks to TRU's sale, my wife's eagle eyes, and befriending yet another store manager.

So, first off, on Sunday, after I pawed through the stack of Civil War three-packs at a TRU, my wife found a lone Vision/FalCap/Kate Bishop set among them where I missed it, so we snatched that up very nicely at the sale prices.

Then, we hit our usual TRU, and chatted a bit with one of the managers who we're on good terms with, and he told us to come back on Monday night, since he'd be closing that night and would know the manifests of what's coming in on the trucks for Tuesday stock.

Monday, his initial scan of the manifests come up dry, but as we're getting into our car, he runs out to let us know that what we're aiming to get is coming in on the truck.

This morning, we go to TRU, and for less that the pre-order that still hadn't been filled would cost, this happens:



(Yes, that's my derpy mug).

So for less than the EE preorder that was still sitting in queue, we walked out with the entire X-Wave. HELL TO THE YES. I'm still buzzing.

Rogue and Phoenix have some eye/face paint issues, but unless we find others in the wild, I am so goddamn satisfied. Twelve figures (thirteen if you count Onslaught), and it's only Tuesday!

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Okay. I thought when you said Outback that they went to Austrlia or there was an Australian comic that had them in special costumes.

They did go to Australia. After they were resurrected by Roma following the battle with the Adversary at the end of 'Fall of the Mutants', they hung out in the Outback (since the world thought they were dead and they wanted to keep it that way for the time being, to protect their loved ones or somesuch), and lived in the Reavers' old base. That's when we got introduced to characters like Gateway and Jubilee.