[Captain Nash]

Agree, saw a Rogue in a store not so long ago (that was my first extra). Have also seen Wolverine once. Cable twice. Everyone else except Deadpool multiple times, nada on Deadpool.

Have seen nothing of Space Venom wave or Abomination wave. And Brick and Mortar wonders why we don't buy from them as much as they'd like - those of us who preorder online get them 2-3 months before retail it seems.

[Harbinger]

I have not seen abomination wave anywhere in my area period. Granted i just want silk spider bitch and cap but id pick up the others to make abomb....but paint it blue for a rick jones abomb,

[Trivial Psychic]

Symbiote Agent Team Up! Just Because!...

[Harbinger]

Oh damn Trivial! I love that agent toxin!

[Trivial Psychic]

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Oh damn Trivial! I love that agent toxin!

Thanks! That chest emblem was a ***** to paint, and since there is no really clear shot of it in the comics, I had to take a little liberty with it. Painting symmetrical lines and patterns sucks!

[Harbinger]

Either way i need venom heads...and hell venom himself.

[AvengingArcher]

After weeks of checking, one of my local Walmarts finally got the Space Venom wave in. Of course however, it must've gone out between my trips because all they had left were Peter and Miles. Went ahead and picked up Peter, but I'm pretty bummed I missed out of Hobgoblin. He's the only other figure from the wave I'm planning on purchasing.

[donmeca2020]

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Yeah, I have literally run into Rogue 4 out of the last 5 or 6 trips I have been out. Wolverine, only once since the wave dropped, and Deadpool a whopping zero. Thank goodness I just ended up picking up the entire wave when I did.

Truth be told, the Space Venom wave has been even tougher, all I have seen thus far was a lone Ashley Barton (of course...who else would it be) and that's about it. Finding another Silk for custom fodder is going to be next to impossible I'm fearing.

Space venom wave has not been anywhere around my way. However that's not an issue for me i ordered that and have had it for awhile.

[SymbiSpidey]

Picked up the Target War Machine/Disco Armor 2-pack. I have pretty much no opinion on the Disco Armor. I mean, it's fine for what it is but I don't even think people that like their Iron-Man armor collection would be too excited over this piece.


The War Machine however, is fantastic. I love the sort of dark-grey sparkly paint and silver they use and I LOVE the bulk of the figure. I have no problem attaching his accessories into his back, if you really push them in, friction does a decent job of keeping them in place.

My only real complaint is the head sits a little odd on the body. Makes him look like he has no neck. This problem is easily remedied by taking off the head and not putting it all the way on the ball joint. You can add some blu-tack or some other type of putty to make it a more secure fit, and it makes the proportions of the figure much, much better (I may show some pictures tomorrow).

One thing I like about Iron-Man figures is that in the comic books, Iron-Man suits already look high-tech and practical, so the movie figures still fit in quite well with the comic book figures. I may use this War Machine as a modern comic book figure.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Have you read God Loves, Man Kills? You might not have since it was released as an OGN so it might not be put into any of the omnibuses or collections but it's a really good solo story from Claremont which serves as a lot of the inspiration for X2.

Yeah, that one is part of the third Omnibus. It was quite good.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Symbiote Agent Team Up! Just Because!...

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

Space venom wave has not been anywhere around my way. However that's not an issue for me i ordered that and have had it for awhile.

yeah...THAT exactly. Knowing how i love these figure from these waves...i would be SUPER FRUSTRATED right now for KNOWING so many figures are out and i couldn't find them.

I'm still amazed i've NEVER seen a Nick Fury figure on a shelf/peg. Only saw BP the one time. I've still yet to see Winter Soldier or Falcon. From the Space Venom wave I've only ever seen ONE figure (i think it was one of the girls) out and never any others. Abomination wave I've never seen any figures either. Id be missing like 14 figures and going nuts over it. Online ordering and Arkers help fill out the rest.

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

oh...my box on the slow boat from China just arrived...((Clearly it's not that slow))
i haven't really been posting pics much cause work got me like Eek6
but i'll open em up and take a quick pic and see what they's a lookin' like...

i wanted to take some better shots..dio style...but dammit i even have to get ready for work now..(don't you hate when real life gets in the way or your fun)..so i snapped a few upon arrival for now...


got these 3 from my man Byrnes..
man i swear you must have pulled Scarlet Sp out of the box and never touched him...he and his joints felt like new..





and from China...mannnn listen....the bootleg game is officially STEPPED UP...
snagging these are no brainers....

[VonPooten]

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where the majority of "new" characters are just cloned coattail riders who have had no real thought put into their creation ( due to untalented writers and corporate cheapness )

.. You know that's exactly how Deadpool was created, right?

I agree with everyone that creating individual characters is a better way forward in the long run, but for the current market legacy characters are financially more viable options of diversifying their cast. New titles don't last long due to oversaturation of the market. Nighthawk just got cancelled, She-Hulk got cancelled, X-23 got cancelled, Gambit got cancelled, and Hellcat, Drax and Mockingbird are all in danger of getting cancelled. Even Scarlet Witch, an extremely well-known character, has a badly selling book which will inevitably be cancelled soon.

The Mighty Thor, however, is selling really well. Same as Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man. It makes sense that Marvel are attempting to recreate that formula. Using well-known brands guarantees a longevity that can't really be questioned (unless it's Ghost Rider, which also got cancelled).

From a business perspective, legacy characters are doing very well, and Marvel is a business. Creatively? Your mileage is varying, with some loving them, and others hating them due to their principles, but given a chance, a few of the titles are really well written.

Speaking of legacy...

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by VonPooten

.. You know that's exactly how Deadpool was created, right?

Well while Deadpool was "cloned" off of the idea of Deathstroke he was to marvel a new character. as far as titles getting nixed, lots of those are characters ( like hellcat x-23 nighthawk ) arent strong enough to carry their own titles as opposed to being more well recieved in their team books. She-hulk is getting rebranded into " hulk" so while the title is canceled the book story itself is continuing ( kind what idw did eith transformers rid transition into lost light). Today though if comics arent instant sellouts they get canned. I get and understand comic companies turning characters into legacies but it doesnt mean i have to like it support it or agree with it. It also doesnt mean todays " creative teams " arent just being lazy for laziness sake either.

Now i will say i love that shot ya did. Whered ya get that marvel girl statue piece?

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

yeah...THAT exactly. Knowing how i love these figure from these waves...i would be SUPER FRUSTRATED right now for KNOWING so many figures are out and i couldn't find them.

I'm still amazed i've NEVER seen a Nick Fury figure on a shelf/peg. Only saw BP the one time. I've still yet to see Winter Soldier or Falcon. From the Space Venom wave I've only ever seen ONE figure (i think it was one of the girls) out and never any others. Abomination wave I've never seen any figures either. Id be missing like 14 figures and going nuts over it. Online ordering and Arkers help fill out the rest.



i wanted to take some better shots..dio style...but dammit i even have to get ready for work now..(don't you hate when real life gets in the way or your fun)..so i snapped a few upon arrival for now...


got these 3 from my man Byrnes..
man i swear you must have pulled Scarlet Sp out of the box and never touched him...he and his joints felt like new..





and from China...mannnn listen....the bootleg game is officially STEPPED UP...
snagging these are no brainers....

Hows the comparison to normal legends on that hawkeye? I so want a o get hold of one of those since its unlikely cw clint will ever get a figure ( hasbro really seems to give hawkeye the shaft ).

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

yeah...THAT exactly. Knowing how i love these figure from these waves...i would be SUPER FRUSTRATED right now for KNOWING so many figures are out and i couldn't find them.

I'm still amazed i've NEVER seen a Nick Fury figure on a shelf/peg. Only saw BP the one time. I've still yet to see Winter Soldier or Falcon. From the Space Venom wave I've only ever seen ONE figure (i think it was one of the girls) out and never any others. Abomination wave I've never seen any figures either. Id be missing like 14 figures and going nuts over it. Online ordering and Arkers help fill out the rest.



i wanted to take some better shots..dio style...but dammit i even have to get ready for work now..(don't you hate when real life gets in the way or your fun)..so i snapped a few upon arrival for now...


got these 3 from my man Byrnes..
man i swear you must have pulled Scarlet Sp out of the box and never touched him...he and his joints felt like new..





and from China...mannnn listen....the bootleg game is officially STEPPED UP...
snagging these are no brainers....

Funny you mention BP. My girl went to a walmart this week, i told her look for legends. She was on the phone with me while i was at work and she actually saw a BP on the peg. Which i was shocked about.

[VonPooten]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Well while Deadpool was "cloned" off of the idea of Deathstroke he was to marvel a new character. as far as titles getting nixed, lots of those are characters ( like hellcat x-23 nighthawk ) arent strong enough to carry their own titles as opposed to being more well recieved in their team books. She-hulk is getting rebranded into " hulk" so while the title is canceled the book story itself is continuing ( kind what idw did eith transformers rid transition into lost light). Today though if comics arent instant sellouts they get canned. I get and understand comic companies turning characters into legacies but it doesnt mean i have to like it support it or agree with it. It also doesnt mean todays " creative teams " arent just being lazy for laziness sake either.

Now i will say i love that shot ya did. Whered ya get that marvel girl statue piece?

Oh no, you have every right not to like any character! I didn't mean that, I was just explaining that, to Marvel, legacy characters are currently outlasting original characters' series who may have existed up to 40 years before this. The main problem is probably Perlmutter's obsession with profit (which is his job, I guess) - the sooner Marvel stands by their series and keeps them going even if they aren't doing well sales wise yet have a cult following, they'll earn fans' respect back.
Right now though, they're losing loyal fans with revamp after revamp and status-quo change after status-quo change.

Truthfully I think the only difference between myself and those who aren't a fan of these diverse legacy characters (yourself included Nite, but obviously I'm not targetting you, just speaking with you), is that I'm alright having a look at any series, and if they take my fancy and I can afford it, I'll buy it. If Thor happens to be Jane Foster in it, or Logan is an older, alternative one, that's fine with me! On the opposite side, if someone doesn't like that, that's cool too, because it'll probably change in five years' time.

Oh and thanks! The Jean Grey statue is a custom using the old Hasbro Marvel Girl figure.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by VonPooten

Oh no, you have every right not to like any character! I didn't mean that, I was just explaining that, to Marvel, legacy characters are currently outlasting original characters' series who may have existed up to 40 years before this. The main problem is probably Perlmutter's obsession with profit (which is his job, I guess) - the sooner Marvel stands by their series and keeps them going even if they aren't doing well sales wise yet have a cult following, they'll earn fans' respect back.
Right now though, they're losing loyal fans with revamp after revamp and status-quo change after status-quo change.

Truthfully I think the only difference between myself and those who aren't a fan of these diverse legacy characters (yourself included Nite, but obviously I'm not targetting you, just speaking with you), is that I'm alright having a look at any series, and if they take my fancy and I can afford it, I'll buy it. If Thor happens to be Jane Foster in it, or Logan is an older, alternative one, that's fine with me! On the opposite side, if someone doesn't like that, that's cool too, because it'll probably change in five years' time.

Oh and thanks! The Jean Grey statue is a custom using the old Hasbro Marvel Girl figure.

Ah i didnt take any offense or anything von. Its a civil discussion...not springer haha.
The constant changing is another issue....it seems ever since that giant age of apocalypse everything is always retconning every time ya turn around. And series only go to like issue 20 or 30 as opposed to the they ran into the triple digits. It just feels like nothing is being made for longevity that its just a crash n burn scenario...ie bilk it for all its worth then dump it, retcon it and slap a new coat of paint over a rusty body to make it seem new.

I guess im just old and cynnical wanting new original stuff ( to whatever particular company ) instead of just draping a cover over an old couch and calling it new.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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[IMG]and from China...mannnn listen....the bootleg game is officially STEPPED UP...
snagging these are no brainers....

You're right, those look pretty good. Your clear photos represent them better than I've seen them represented elsewhere. But y'know, you're supporting the theft of Marvel's intellectual property, right? That said, I suspect Disney is allowing this because a.) it's proving to be a difficult task to hold China accountable for IP theft, and b.) increased 'toy' awareness isn't necessarily a bad thing when it's the movies that butter your bread...greater penetration into a pool of billions of movie-goers will have you turn a blind eye to a lot of things.

The figs are all seven inch scale, correct?

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Originally Posted by VonPooten

I agree with everyone that creating individual characters is a better way forward in the long run, but for the current market legacy characters are financially more viable options of diversifying their cast. New titles don't last long due to oversaturation of the market. Nighthawk just got cancelled, She-Hulk got cancelled, X-23 got cancelled, Gambit got cancelled, and Hellcat, Drax and Mockingbird are all in danger of getting cancelled. Even Scarlet Witch, an extremely well-known character, has a badly selling book which will inevitably be cancelled soon.

The Mighty Thor, however, is selling really well. Same as Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man. It makes sense that Marvel are attempting to recreate that formula. Using well-known brands guarantees a longevity that can't really be questioned (unless it's Ghost Rider, which also got cancelled).

From a business perspective, legacy characters are doing very well, and Marvel is a business. Creatively? Your mileage is varying, with some loving them, and others hating them due to their principles, but given a chance, a few of the titles are really well written.

Speaking of legacy...

Nice pic! Is that a legacy, and if so, which one; Jean Grey/Marvel Girl or Phoenix? With Jean, many of those characters are time-slipped personas (granted I don't know much about these young original X-men). However, in my opinion, Rachel IS actually a different person. I do accept the Phoenix as a legacy. There's been a long history of characters that were hosts, or were familiar with other hosts of the Phoenix Force entity: Necron, Krovus, Rachel, Cyclops, etc.

Devil's advocate musings aside, I get where you are coming from on on the difficulty of launching a new character (and not so new even - Gambit, Nighthawk, and others...). That's why I encouraged that Marvel be more courageous with new titles. These books are getting cancelled after ten issues. The first volume of Rom ran for 75 issues, and Nova's first volume ran for 21. More time needs to be invested for these characters to get on their feet and find their stride.

I think Marvel should bring back titles like Marvel Team-up and Marvel Two In One. Comics that are/were anchored by popular heroes (Spider Man -MTU and Thing - MTIO), yet served to introduce new characters to readers. Those two titles exposed me to a wider Marvel Universe; characters and concepts like Deatlok, Quasar, Jack of Hearts, Black Goliath, Aquarius and Project Pegasus. They have to get out of their comfort zone because abusing Legacy is only going to get them but so far...

[Dr Kain]

Wow, this topic has turned into bootleg galore. WTF? Deadpool is not the center of the Marvel universe guys.

[Harbinger]

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Wow, this topic has turned into bootleg galore. WTF? Deadpool is not the center of the Marvel universe guys.

He is mine. Hes orbited by punisher valkyrie and enchantress.

[lordbest]

Everyone seems to love those bootlegs, am I the only one that doesn't? It's a good likeness for Jeremy Renner and they deserve some credit for giving Black Widow double elbows but Hulk looks like a washed up ex-Hulk starting to go to seed, Vision looks like a cosplay by a middle aged banker and something just seems off about Iron Man and War Machine. Something in the proportions.

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

Everyone seems to love those bootlegs, am I the only one that doesn't? It's a good likeness for Jeremy Renner and they deserve some credit for giving Black Widow double elbows but Hulk looks like a washed up ex-Hulk starting to go to seed, Vision looks like a cosplay by a middle aged banker and something just seems off about Iron Man and War Machine. Something in the proportions.

it's cool... we all have thangs we like and thangs we don't...
i (sometimes prematurely) criticize figs when i see previews of them. But in hand they are usually better. I wasn't keen on these when i first saw them...then i read...and saw enough reviews of them to go ahead and give them a shot. So to boost my collection, add a few figs i didn't have, ..add a variation or two...meh..
I've paid more for ONE figure than i did for all of these combined.
The price was great...and i'm REALLY content with my purchase.

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But y'know, you're supporting the theft of Marvel's intellectual property, right?

circa 1983 i had a belt that had Gucci print on one side, and Louis Vuitton on the other.
circa 1996 i had an mp3 of Return of the Mack by Mark Morrison
circa 1999 i had a Tag Heuer watch that for some reason stopped working after a year
circa 2005 i watched a movie that someone purchased in a barbershop of a feature film that was still in theaters.
circa 2016 i purchased some, what i thought to be Marvel Legends figs from the internets. It said it was from China..and toys are made in China so i figured...ya know.
I'm fairly certain there'll be more circas.....from time to time..

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The figs are all seven inch scale, correct?

I haven't actually had time to stand them next to any of my other figures I own. I'll TRY to get some pics asap to at least do size comparisons.....they don't FEEL, in hand, any bigger than normal Legends figs. I wanna try a Scar Jo head swap too..

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Picked up the Target War Machine/Disco Armor 2-pack. I have pretty much no opinion on the Disco Armor.

Another figure i thought was trash...i thought to myself. WHOSE IDEA WAS IT...of all the armors they could have chosen, to go with that crap. Fast forward and...I'm actually liking that figure in my collection. I'm beginning to like the little oddball figs.

[VonPooten]

Edit: Nice find, DTL! How are you finding the Hawkeye and Black Widow figures? Those are the only two I'd be interesting in, but they look pretty nice. Is the plastic good quality?

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Ah i didnt take any offense or anything von. Its a civil discussion...not springer haha.
The constant changing is another issue....it seems ever since that giant age of apocalypse everything is always retconning every time ya turn around. And series only go to like issue 20 or 30 as opposed to the they ran into the triple digits. It just feels like nothing is being made for longevity that its just a crash n burn scenario...ie bilk it for all its worth then dump it, retcon it and slap a new coat of paint over a rusty body to make it seem new.

I guess im just old and cynnical wanting new original stuff ( to whatever particular company ) instead of just draping a cover over an old couch and calling it new.

Ah yes, I also have a major problem with revamping series every twenty issues! If anything don't all the different volumes make it harder to keep track of characters? All they need is the Marvel rebranding logo (such as "All-New Marvel Now #1") on the cover, but keep the numbering so that we know it's still that series. Perhaps we are entering the snapchat of comic books? Snippets of stories here and there..

I'll second that idea by saying another problem is writers who only go to the Big Two to make a name for themselves, then promptly leave to make their own comics. It smells less like interest in characters, and more like self promotion. Perhaps that's why I like Jason Aaron on Thor? He's been there 4 years and isn't showing any signs of leaving.

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Nice pic! Is that a legacy, and if so, which one; Jean Grey/Marvel Girl or Phoenix? With Jean, many of those characters are time-slipped personas (granted I don't know much about these young original X-men). However, in my opinion, Rachel IS actually a different person. I do accept the Phoenix as a legacy. There's been a long history of characters that were hosts, or were familiar with other hosts of the Phoenix Force entity: Necron, Krovus, Rachel, Cyclops, etc.

Thank you BM! Yes sorry the picture might not be too clear. The caption I posted it with initially was, “This is Charles Xavier’s school… Why is it named after me now?”
So yes it is teen Jean witnessing her own legacy, from the All-New X-Men title. The premise was probably one of Bendis' best ideas with wonderful potential, but the kids should have gone back to the past by now, lest they become annoying to readers.

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Devil's advocate musings aside, I get where you are coming from on on the difficulty of launching a new character (and not so new even - Gambit, Nighthawk, and others...). That's why I encouraged that Marvel be more courageous with new titles. These books are getting cancelled after ten issues. The first volume of Rom ran for 75 issues, and Nova's first volume ran for 21. More time needs to be invested for these characters to get on their feet and find their stride.

I think Marvel should bring back titles like Marvel Team-up and Marvel Two In One. Comics that are/were anchored by popular heroes (Spider Man -MTU and Thing - MTIO), yet served to introduce new characters to readers. Those two titles exposed me to a wider Marvel Universe; characters and concepts like Deatlok, Quasar, Jack of Hearts, Black Goliath, Aquarius and Project Pegasus. They have to get out of their comfort zone because abusing Legacy is only going to get them but so far...

I believe Spider-Woman also launched through MTU! One character they are adamant at sticking with is Carol Danvers, for sure. Her being promoted to Cappy M is one of my favourite ideas this decade (and imo the costume is much cooler than any of her previous ones), but man, her series does not sell well. Marvel have faith in her, though, as they do the Inhumans, so we shall see...

Though yes, if a tremendously popular (or once popular should I say) character like Gambit can't keep his own series afloat, you know there's poor demand. They even put Mark Waid and Chris Samnee on Black Widow with a brilliant opening arc, and no-one's paying attention to that, either. Everybody is burned out, it seems.

Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a super set up of Enchantress versus Thor or Doctor Strange, mate. Just saying.....

[Augustus_Cole]

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Originally Posted by VonPooten

Edit: Nice find, DTL! How are you finding the Hawkeye and Black Widow figures? Those are the only two I'd be interesting in, but they look pretty nice. Is the plastic good quality?

I haven't really had much time with them. but my initial thoughts were that they are fine. I was way more pleased with them, than I PREPARED myself to be. The plastic is fine...truthfully..i've had several Licensed Legends figs that I've had more issues with than these.
The only thing i wasn't super fond of was Black Widows head sculpt. I'm used to the Scar Jo. I specifically bought that one for the body BUT..it's actually not that bad of a figure anyway.
Hawkeye is better than i expected.

and...

YOUR JEAN PIC IS FANTASTIC!!... the lighting is a great addition.

[VonPooten]

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

I haven't really had much time with them. but my initial thoughts were that they are fine. I was way more pleased with them, then I PREPARED myself to be. The plastic is fine...truthfully..i've had several Licensed Legends figs that I've had more issues with than these.
The only thing i wasn't super fond of was Black Widows head sculpt. I'm used to the Scar Jo. I specifically bought that one for the body BUT..it's actually not that bad of a figure anyway.
Hawkeye is better than i expected.

and...

YOUR JEAN PIC IS FANTASTIC!!... the lighting is a great addition.

Aaaah yes Hasbro's plastic isn't hard to beat, and it's great to hear they turned out better than you thought for being bootlegs. Also, thank you mate! That means a lot. Being on Instagram teaches you a few things about figure photography, so I decided to step it up a notch.