[Bearjew]

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Originally Posted by Bo Ttef

Making space for Warlock and Shatterstar- Cable needs some kids to go to war with him but not everyone will make the cut.

Where did the cable shoulder pads come from?

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Bearjew

Where did the cable shoulder pads come from?

Marvel legends toybiz cable.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

Wait for the others to pop on here saying "Oh well the costume won't translate well onto the big screen"

I'll appease you and play devil's advocate...because...well...

...Sometimes the costumes really don't translate well unless they are tinkered with a bit. If the Vulture in the upcoming film really was a 75 year old man in feathered green footie pajamas, comic book film or not, no one would take it seriously.

Elizabeth Olsen is a very pretty woman, but can you imagine what she would have looked like had she stepped into the battle of Sokovia looking the way she does in the comic book? As beautiful as she is, there is no material on Earth that could fit her body and support it in the physics defying manner that Wanda's does in the comic and would actually allow her to "do stuff" other than stand there and look pretty. It just wouldn't have worked (and let's not use Olivia Munn's Psylocke as a comparison, because A. It's an apples and oranges comparison, and B. Hollywood took a lot of liberties with that one as well, adding armor plating and such because the suit itself was a just a latex bodysuit produced by a sex shop, and was notoriously hard to work with if the cast and crew testimony had anything to say about it.) On top of that...the media/feminist/social justice warriors would have a field day with it, and that in itself is a headache that most studios don't want to deal with.

I get that it's a film, and there should be some level to suspension of disbelief, but in the case of an outfit like that, you're really asking a lot of your audience. Granted, Hollywood sometimes tinkers a bit TOO MUCH in these these when worrying about the right look, and coupled with director vision and all of that, it becomes a really fine line. Sometimes you end up with something that looks great like a Spidey in ASM2, Spawn or Deadpool, and other times, you end up with Vinnie Jones wearing a fake hairy chest.

[DestinedAnarky]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

Wait for the others to pop on here saying "Oh well the costume won't translate well onto the big screen"

That is the usual excuse for why colorful costumes aren't used in the movies. Bryan Singer said so when he did the first two X-Men movies. which is why he went with the black leather look. First Class showed you could do the blue and yellow costumes and have them look good on film.

The MCU has shown the perfect path to translating the comic costumes to the big screen and not having them look completely ridiculous.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I'll appease you and play devil's advocate...because...well...

...Sometimes the costumes really don't translate well unless they are tinkered with a bit. If the Vulture in the upcoming film really was a 75 year old man in feathered green footie pajamas, comic book film or not, no one would take it seriously.

Elizabeth Olsen is a very pretty woman, but can you imagine what she would have looked like had she stepped into the battle of Sokovia looking the way she does in the comic book? As beautiful as she is, there is no material on Earth that could fit her body and support it in the physics defying manner that Wanda's does in the comic and would actually allow her to "do stuff" other than stand there and look pretty. It just wouldn't have worked (and let's not use Olivia Munn's Psylocke as a comparison, because A. It's an apples and oranges comparison, and B. Hollywood took a lot of liberties with that one as well, adding armor plating and such because the suit itself was a just a latex bodysuit produced by a sex shop, and was notoriously hard to work with if the cast and crew testimony had anything to say about it.) On top of that...the media/feminist/social justice warriors would have a field day with it, and that in itself is a headache that most studios don't want to deal with.

I get that it's a film, and there should be some level to suspension of disbelief, but in the case of an outfit like that, you're really asking a lot of your audience. Granted, Hollywood sometimes tinkers a bit TOO MUCH in these these when worrying about the right look, and coupled with director vision and all of that, it becomes a really fine line. Sometimes you end up with something that looks great like a Spidey in ASM2, Spawn or Deadpool, and other times, you end up with Vinnie Jones wearing a fake hairy chest.

Technically wandas "street clothers" were a costume, as was quicksilvers ( despiteblooking very underarmor-ish haha) and there was definitely a costumed feel to her civil war outfit ( and there was a nice bit o top boob without being comic top boob ) to boot. heehee

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by DestinedAnarky

That is the usual excuse for why colorful costumes aren't used in the movies. Bryan Singer said so when he did the first two X-Men movies. which is why he went with the black leather look. First Class showed you could do the blue and yellow costumes and have them look good on film.

The MCU has shown the perfect path to translating the comic costumes to the big screen and not having them look completely ridiculous.

I dont think the translating color costumes was Singers reason for black leather.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I'll appease you and play devil's advocate...because...well...

...Sometimes the costumes really don't translate well unless they are tinkered with a bit. If the Vulture in the upcoming film really was a 75 year old man in feathered green footie pajamas, comic book film or not, no one would take it seriously.

Elizabeth Olsen is a very pretty woman, but can you imagine what she would have looked like had she stepped into the battle of Sokovia looking the way she does in the comic book? As beautiful as she is, there is no material on Earth that could fit her body and support it in the physics defying manner that Wanda's does in the comic and would actually allow her to "do stuff" other than stand there and look pretty. It just wouldn't have worked (and let's not use Olivia Munn's Psylocke as a comparison, because A. It's an apples and oranges comparison, and B. Hollywood took a lot of liberties with that one as well, adding armor plating and such because the suit itself was a just a latex bodysuit produced by a sex shop, and was notoriously hard to work with if the cast and crew testimony had anything to say about it.) On top of that...the media/feminist/social justice warriors would have a field day with it, and that in itself is a headache that most studios don't want to deal with.

I get that it's a film, and there should be some level to suspension of disbelief, but in the case of an outfit like that, you're really asking a lot of your audience. Granted, Hollywood sometimes tinkers a bit TOO MUCH in these these when worrying about the right look, and coupled with director vision and all of that, it becomes a really fine line. Sometimes you end up with something that looks great like a Spidey in ASM2, Spawn or Deadpool, and other times, you end up with Vinnie Jones wearing a fake hairy chest.

When i said the costume comment, i meant it more for the Male characters. i know having actual women dressed similar to a J scott campbell drawing or whomevers is just not doable.

However, they could easily have done the same thing with numerous characters that they did for both Spider-man and black panther in Civil war. remember alot of it was CGI, therefore it looked great. the first batch of X films, they could have easily made something semi similar to the comic outfits.

hell look at netflix Daredevil. it's not identical to the comic look however it is VERY closeand doable. Deadpool looked AMAZING and exactly like his comic appearance.

I guess depending on what characters really.

[Jeddostotle7]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

However, they could easily have done the same thing with numerous characters that they did for both Spider-man and black panther in Civil war. remember alot of it was CGI, therefore it looked great. the first batch of X films, they could have easily made something semi similar to the comic outfits.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to do that CGI costume-replacement with characters whose costumes don't entirely cover their body and face, it'd be more likely to look weird; the CG outfit would jar with the real face. Plus, those movies were made in the early 2000's, when CG wasn't nearly as good, so even if it was done back then with characters who are normally entirely concealed by their costume, it probably wouldn't have looked great anyway, just 'cause the technology wasn't there yet to make a CG rendering of a human look and move realistically, even if in an all-concealing costume. They'd have to do something to really distance that character from being human in order for it to look less out of place, like with Gollum.

[lordbest]

What a handsome family.

Enchantress has the prettiest head sculpt of any Marvel Legends to date in my opinion, full of personality and idiosyncrasy. I'm still a bit annoyed she is too small and has those awful heeled feet but she looks fantastic and seems to stand better than my Scarlet Witch did.

Nico Minoru is the better female figure in terms of articulation and sensible footwear, and she looks perfect too. The sculpt looks amazing but it doesn't quite have the same personality that Amora has.

Brother Voodoo is a really nice looking figure too, I'm not very familiar with the character but he seems to capture the look fairly well and the head sculpt and paint are very nice.

Iron Fist. Something about the hips bother me, which I hadn't noticed with the white costume version. Nice enough figure though I guess.

Comic Dr Strange. I like the cloak and the new costume.

Dormammu: One of my favourite BAFs in a while, stunning looking figure.

I'm really hoping we get a regular release Medusa at some point in the next year or two, with her all I would need is a custom Singularity to complete an A-Force team (though Dazzler wouldn't be in her correct costume).

[Bo Ttef]

Yeah, the Toybiz Cable donated the shoulder pasta to ML Cable- I also added a few belts and bits to it to make it fit/work a little better-

..and Wolfsbane is a repainted Hobbit Warg.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

I dont think the translating color costumes was Singers reason for black leather.

Not to mention Singer doesn't even understand how X-Men works. He pretty much bastardized God Loves Man Kills with X2 and despite doing a good job with DoFP he completed screwed everything with that joke that was Apocalypse.

Also, was there really a need to make Mystique naked?

[jwyss234]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

However, they could easily have done the same thing with numerous characters that they did for both Spider-man and black panther in Civil war. remember alot of it was CGI, therefore it looked great. the first batch of X films, they could have easily made something semi similar to the comic outfits.

hell look at netflix Daredevil. it's not identical to the comic look however it is VERY closeand doable. Deadpool looked AMAZING and exactly like his comic appearance.

I guess depending on what characters really.

But you're comparing the types of costumes that can be made today with what could have been made 17 years ago. The foam muscles that are bult into all of the superhero costumes today were origonally developed for Toby Maguire's first Spiderman costume in 2002. But before then, foam or molded muscle suits were hard to work in and sometimes looked terrible. By the time Spiderman came out, Fox and Singer were committed to the black leather costumes. Also, Jackman wasn't beefing up to play Wolverine in those first 3 X-Men movies like he has for the more recent ones. Those leather costumes did him a favor.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

When i said the costume comment, i meant it more for the Male characters. i know having actual women dressed similar to a J scott campbell drawing or whomevers is just not doable.

However, they could easily have done the same thing with numerous characters that they did for both Spider-man and black panther in Civil war. remember alot of it was CGI, therefore it looked great. the first batch of X films, they could have easily made something semi similar to the comic outfits.

hell look at netflix Daredevil. it's not identical to the comic look however it is VERY close and doable. Deadpool looked AMAZING and exactly like his comic appearance.

I guess depending on what characters really.

I might be in the minority in thinking this, but I thought the CGI suit for Spider-Man looked like **** in Civil War. It was, and still is one of my biggest gripes of the whole film. It was really jarring to look at, as it didn't do a very good job of transferring facial features underneath the mask. People have lips and noses, and unless they have nose holes, masks tend to stretch when people speak or breathe, and no amount of CG magic made that work for Spidey in Civil War. If you look carefully in certain spots, you'll see the web pattern on his costume actually moving due to CG limitations, and whenever they showed Spidey talking, it looked really unnatural and I felt as if I was watching a really intricate PS4 cinematic. Hopefully this will be fixed in Homecoming, as set pictures are actually showing Tom Holland wearing a physical Spider-Man costume this time around.

Black Panther on the other hand, looked a lot better, but I think a large majority of that was due to the fact that the costume itself is black, therefore is a bit easier to shadow, and hide the smaller details.

Male characters in general are a bit easier to transfer onto the big screen than female characters due to the looks and politics of them...but even then, sometimes things need to be changed regardless because again, they just don't translate all that well. A great example would be the Judge Dredd costume. For all intents and purposes, Stallone's costume was actually more accurate (despite the cod piece) to the books than Karl Urban's was, but I think most of us would agree that if we were to remove the characters from the film, Urban's costume is actually better than the more book accurate version. And it's because it still pays homage to the original look, while making practical changes for the big screen and modern audiences. The Netflix MCU shows have absolutely nailed this aspect, as well as Flash and Arrow...

People can say what they want about the DC Murderverse, but I think Snyder has also done a fantastic job with this aspect, both with Watchmen and his DC films. If only the films could match up with his eye for gorgeous looking superhero duds...

@Dr Kain:

As for why would Mystique not wear clothes and be naked all the time, think about it...if you could shapeshift, and form clothing as well, why would you wear clothes to begin with? They would just get in the way of your natural abilities. Doesn't make sense for someone like Mystique, who used her ability often for infiltration and deception, often changing from male to female in the blink of an eye. Would be kinda hard for her to pass as a male police officer in a moment's notice if she happened to leave the house that morning wearing a pretty sundress and a pair of sandals.

It was one of the things that Peter Parker also loved most about his symbiotic costume when he had it. He never needed to keep a spare set of clothes webbed up somewhere or wear his costume underneath his civilian duds, allowing him to change as needed on the fly.

[Brownfinger]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

Enchantress has the prettiest head sculpt of any Marvel Legends to date in my opinion, full of personality and idiosyncrasy. I'm still a bit annoyed she is too small and has those awful heeled feet but she looks fantastic and seems to stand better than my Scarlet Witch did.

See, now that's interesting. It took me a little bit to warm up to the Enchantress sculpt, I wasn't crazy about it at first. I've come around a bit since buying her, but so far I think the prettiest female sculpts in the Legends line are Magik and:



Congrats on the haul, by the way.
One thing is for sure though, lady action figure quality has come a very long way since I was a kid. And the selection has grown exponentially. What with more ladies buying them up and parents getting them for their daughters (and sons!). It's fantastic.

Also, Medusa is mandatory. She's inevitable. Obviously. I'd simply prefer to have one sooner than later.

[lordbest]

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See, now that's interesting. It took me a little bit to warm up to the Enchantress sculpt, I wasn't crazy about it at first. I've come around a bit since buying her, but so far I think the prettiest female sculpts in the Legends line are Magik and:

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Congrats on the haul, by the way.
One thing is for sure though, lady action figure quality has come a very long way since I was a kid. And the selection has grown exponentially. What with more ladies buying them up and parents getting them for their daughters (and sons!). It's fantastic.

Also, Medusa is mandatory. She's inevitable. Obviously. I'd simply prefer to have one sooner than later.

Well it's all subjective, and the differences in quality between the best female headsculpts are fairly minimal I think. I say Enchantress is my favourite because she just seems to me to have more personality, with the smirk and facial expression whereas most of the others have a fairly neutral blank look and look fairly similar overall.
I regret not buying Magik when she was still relatively cheap after SDCC 2015. Her head sculpt is very nice, as are Black Cat, I'd add Silk and Nico for my top five female ML head sculpts.

Thanks, I was really happy to finally get them. Yep, and even in the last few years it's improved a lot too, no going 2-3 waves without seeing a female figure.

I'm trying to resist buying an SDCC exclusive version, she does seem like an obvious candidate for a new figure though, she and Black Bolt at least. What with the Inhumans tv show starting later this year (I think).

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I might be in the minority in thinking this, but I thought the CGI suit for Spider-Man looked like **** in Civil War. It was, and still is one of my biggest gripes of the whole film. It was really jarring to look at, as it didn't do a very good job of transferring facial features underneath the mask. People have lips and noses, and unless they have nose holes, masks tend to stretch when people speak or breathe, and no amount of CG magic made that work for Spidey in Civil War. If you look carefully in certain spots, you'll see the web pattern on his costume actually moving due to CG limitations, and whenever they showed Spidey talking, it looked really unnatural and I felt as if I was watching a really intricate PS4 cinematic. Hopefully this will be fixed in Homecoming, as set pictures are actually showing Tom Holland wearing a physical Spider-Man costume this time around.

Black Panther on the other hand, looked a lot better, but I think a large majority of that was due to the fact that the costume itself is black, therefore is a bit easier to shadow, and hide the smaller details.

Just because set photos show him wearing a costume doesn't mean they still won't go over it with CGI, this is exactly what they did with Black Panther for Civil War. Chadwick Boseman wore a costume, not as fine-tailored as the Captain America suit of course, and the effects team did their work over him to preserve his performance while making the final on-screen suit more form-fitting and agile in appearance. Black Panther also benefits from the part where his mask is technically a solid helmet as opposed to Spider-Man's fabric mask so there's less movement at all.

[Dr Kain]

Spider-Man's suit was CGI in Civil War? Wow, that is so damn good CGI when I couldn't even tell.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Spider-Man's suit was CGI in Civil War? Wow, that is so damn good CGI when I couldn't even tell.

I think it was the eyes...kinda like deadpools was?

[Trivial Psychic]

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Spider-Man's suit was CGI in Civil War? Wow, that is so damn good CGI when I couldn't even tell.

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I think it was the eyes...kinda like deadpools was?

The ENTIRE costume was CG, not just the eyes. They had a parkour stuntman wear a green suit, and used CG to fill in the details in post production. Thanks to the Sony/Marvel deal taking place so far into production, there wasn't time to get a finished physical product ready, plus the super secretive nature of getting Spidey into the film itself.

It was pretty obvious though...while I'm no expert, the way light settled on it was what gives it away, as well as the for-mentioned way the fabric moves when Spidey speaks. You can also see lines on the web pattern move and shift for no reason in certain scenes (especially if you watch it frame by frame.) It wasnt quite on Rogue 1's level with Tarkin in tems of looking unnatural, but it still looked like a video game.

[donmeca2020]

Let's leave the previous films alone then. what's done is already done and there is no turning back on them. however this whole topic was started by the current appearances of some characters that are currently in movies, tv series etc.

We already know certain characters would look absolutely ridiculous on live film. the first one that comes to mine would be of course Cottonmouth. a guy walking around with a purple snake getup with yellow boots and gloves. yes i can totally agree with something to that degree. Women characters couldn't walk around like warriors and have to worry about body parts slipping out that's also agreeable

However certain heroes and villians if they can't be close to identical to their comic book appearance at least try and make it as close as possible.

the budgets for these films make anything possible. there shouldn't be any constraints or worries. because in all reality that is what we want to see.

Even with the current Iron Fist netflix series, there has been talk he WON'T don a costume. not even the half mask.... while im still going to give it a watch, you all know that outfit is very doable.

[warmachine6]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

Even with the current Iron Fist netflix series, there has been talk he WON'T don a costume. not even the half mask.... while im still going to give it a watch, you all know that outfit is very doable.

Hmm I can understand why this is 50-50 of seeing his outfit here are plausible ideas
1. he buys or makes the suit being a billionaire / millionaire
2. at the end of the series he goes and sees Melivn potter aka gladiator and asks for one being suggest from daredevil.

i would like to see them all suited and well dressed for the defenders in iconic outfits, but we shall see.

[Tim]

Just a Heads up that the captain America Red skull wave is on clearance at GameStop for only $3 I got Taskmaster and Whirlwind all the other stores have Sharon Carter left.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by warmachine6

Hmm I can understand why this is 50-50 of seeing his outfit here are plausible ideas
1. he buys or makes the suit being a billionaire / millionaire
2. at the end of the series he goes and sees Melivn potter aka gladiator and asks for one being suggest from daredevil.

i would like to see them all suited and well dressed for the defenders in iconic outfits, but we shall see.

yes, but really his suit isn't of some fancy armor. it's just regular clothing with his dragon logo on it. his mask almost a bandana kind of.

[Marvelfangirl]

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Congratulations! It is always good to see a fellow collector get their dream-figure! Super happy for you!
How does the figure compare to the one from the first movie? Obviously the head-sculpt is amazing, but what about the gummy joints? Are they gone this time? Does it reuse much sculpting?

Great question and thank you very much! I was making Star Lord do the splits XD you get I think way more range of motion I feel like there's hardly really like any resculpting at all compared to the first figure (I also have ) It's a brand new figure and especially for anyone interested or a Marvel fan it's a win on the homefront!

[En Sabah Nerd]

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It wasnt quite on Rogue 1's level with Tarkin in tems of looking unnatural, but it still looked like a video game.

I know this is getting off topic so apologies in advance but I wanted to chime in on this point real quick.

Human faces are the easiest thing for us to pick up on as false because we routinely interact with real humans all of the time so the slightest inaccuracy jumps out at us before we're even able to put a pin on it. Tarkin in Rogue One is technically quite an impressive feat but still falls short of the desired goal because recreating an actual person is like the ultimate challenge of CGI. Having said all of that I was still pretty excited when Tarkin did show up in RO because he served the story and you can't deal with the Death Star without having its head honcho.