[marvelmando]

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Originally Posted by VashTS

SLightly off topic, I was looking forward to the Watcher Diamond Select re-release, and about a week ago it was cancelled. I read on MArvelousNews(I think) that it was cancelled due to Disney's war with Fox.

So so future FF/Xmen figures in the next few years? I wonder if the was the real reason Mystique was canned from DST.

I don't understand why Fox would have anything to do with The Watcher. He isn't a FF property or anything. Definitely no more than are the Inhumans and Disney has seemed to green light these.
I think it has something to do with the old mold being lost or broken and to re sculpt it was just not profitable for them. But that is entirely my own speculation.

[jwyss234]

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Originally Posted by VashTS

SLightly off topic, I was looking forward to the Watcher Diamond Select re-release, and about a week ago it was cancelled. I read on MArvelousNews(I think) that it was cancelled due to Disney's war with Fox.

So so future FF/Xmen figures in the next few years? I wonder if the was the real reason Mystique was canned from DST.

Mystique got canned because Jennifer Lawrence declined to let them use her likeness. It happens sometimes with figures. NECA had to work really hard to get Sigourney Weaver's approval of the Ripley figure before she would agree to let them user her likeness.

[advocatepinoy]

Posted my reviews of the Marvel Legends Avengers Series

Marvel NOW! Thor
http://www.toyark.com/marvel-legends...review-165485/

Sentry
http://www.toyark.com/marvel-legends...review-165483/

[marvelmando]

I spent some time and made a new diorama. I am pleased with the way that it turned out though it was time consuming.
This was a great line-up of Thunderbolts and although it ended rather lame, I was disappointed to see it go.

[marvelmando]

As big as I thought that I was making it, it still isn't big enough for doing shots of some in my collection. D'oh!

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by marvelmando

As big as I thought that I was making it, it still isn't big enough for doing shots of some in my collection. D'oh!

You know, as awesome as Foom is, I just cannot pull the trigger on him. Not because of the price he draws. I had opportunities to secure him for retail (case shipment) years ago. Even considering the Baf's current cost, if I want something badly enough, I'll justify the purchase based on my desire to procure whatever it may be (within limits). It's the scale problems that bother me the most. Galactus represents a similar conundrum for me, and I count myself as a huge Cosmic Marvel fan. If the two were in the proper scale to their 1:12 line-mates, they would have to be Shaq's size. Great sculpts, but I just can't get around that issue intellectually....

[ultraman zoffy]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

If the two were in the proper scale to their 1:12 line-mates, they would have to be Shaq's size. Great sculpts, but I just can't get around that issue intellectually....

Build-A-Humans at the next SDCC reveal. Calling it. =)

[TheBlueMarvel]

@Ultraman Zoffy

I'm all over that! I just need to rethink my storage situation. Good thing I collect loose...I can only imagine the headaches that the card and blister packaging will present...

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by jwyss234

Mystique got canned because Jennifer Lawrence declined to let them use her likeness. It happens sometimes with figures. NECA had to work really hard to get Sigourney Weaver's approval of the Ripley figure before she would agree to let them user her likeness.

Movie-based toys can run into issues before release. Like you said the main one is likeness rights, even if the toy isn't going for perfect accuracy they still need the rights. If movies draw particular concern or controversy for their content, it's possible the toys will be cancelled no matter how close to release they are like Django Unchained. If for some reason the Interview had toys prepared they likely would have been cancelled due to the controversy surrounding the film, and then I guess uncancelled like the movie.

[VashTS]

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Originally Posted by marvelmando

I spent some time and made a new diorama. I am pleased with the way that it turned out though it was time consuming.
This was a great line-up of Thunderbolts and although it ended rather lame, I was disappointed to see it go.

Really nice pic.....love it. Usually when I have a set up I like I keep it there for the foreseeable future...but it is space consuming.

[VashTS]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Movie-based toys can run into issues before release. Like you said the main one is likeness rights, even if the toy isn't going for perfect accuracy they still need the rights. If movies draw particular concern or controversy for their content, it's possible the toys will be cancelled no matter how close to release they are like Django Unchained. If for some reason the Interview had toys prepared they likely would have been cancelled due to the controversy surrounding the film, and then I guess uncancelled like the movie.

Django hurt alot. I really wanted that Leo figure so badly...nice movie, such a shame certain political groups used their power on something as trivial as a movie.

[jwyss234]

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Originally Posted by VashTS

Django hurt alot. I really wanted that Leo figure so badly...nice movie, such a shame certain political groups used their power on something as trivial as a movie.

Florida moms and nervous politicians show up every few years and cause problems for a minute or two and then they're gone. Or Fox News has a slow day and invents a problem.

But back to VashTS about the Uatu re-release, from what I've seen DST typically produces figures regardless of studios at war with each other. I know they're under contract to produce a certain number of figures each year but I'm not sure if re-releases count in that yearly number or not. It's possible the mold could be lost but I think it's more likely that Uatu was put off in favor of another figure. Even re-releases like Ultron or the Thing can be seen as a way to cash in on the movies coming out this summer.

[advocatepinoy]

Got the reviews of Sentry and Thor up already.

THOR
Marvel Legends Infinite Series Marvel NOW! Thor Review - YouTube

SENTRY
Marvel Legends Infinite Series Sentry Review - YouTube

Marvel NOW! Thor by advocatepinoy, on Flickr

Dark Avengers by advocatepinoy, on Flickr

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by marvelmando

I don't understand why Fox would have anything to do with The Watcher. He isn't a FF property or anything. Definitely no more than are the Inhumans and Disney has seemed to green light these.
I think it has something to do with the old mold being lost or broken and to re sculpt it was just not profitable for them. But that is entirely my own speculation.

Not to pull nerd-rank here, but since the Watcher appeared first in FF #13, he's *technically* an FF character. It's the same deal with the Skrulls: even though they're now a general nuisance in the Marvel universe, since they first appeared in FF, they're considered part of the FF brand. That's why they had to use the Chitauri in the Avengers. Or maybe 'cause they didn't want to introduce the concept/ can of worms of shapeshifters... ANywho, I just saw this picture, and even though I don't think it'd ever replaced the classic ML Green Goblin, I'd love a version of this suit:

[TheBlueMarvel]

I have to believe that Hasbro can do a little better than this breathtaking version of the Goblin...if there was ever a need for an update...

[Frank Richards]

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Not to pull nerd-rank here, but since the Watcher appeared first in FF #13, he's *technically* an FF character. It's the same deal with the Skrulls: even though they're now a general nuisance in the Marvel universe, since they first appeared in FF, they're considered part of the FF brand. That's why they had to use the Chitauri in the Avengers. Or maybe 'cause they didn't want to introduce the concept/ can of worms of shapeshifters...

I'm not trying to be argumentative or disrespectful, but what you're inadvertently alluding to here is that Wolverine is “technically” a Hulk character, or that Sabretooth is an Iron Fist character.
There are a lot of Marvel characters that can't really be classified by their first appearance.

Yeah, sure, to avoid licensing conflicts, when Marvel and the various studios with whom they've worked with in the past were drawing up their contracts, yeah, certain characters were lumped into certain brands, typically reflecting the comics the movies were based on. However, the Marvel comic universe is a little too dynamic and ever-changing to be viewed so narrowly.

Black Panther, The Inhumans, The Kree, Kang (as Rama Tut), and soooo many others all initially appeared in the Fantastic Four comics, but they've moved beyond the label of just “Fantastic Four characters”.
Black Panther has become too significant, and if anything, is typically regarded as an independent hero, like Daredevil or Iron Fist. Also, Kang is largely identified as an Avengers villain, while the Kree, the Inhumans, and even Annihilus are largely lumped into the Cosmic Marvel pantheon.
With the exception of Jonathan Hickman's all-encompassing run, characters like Ronan (and the Kree in general), The Inhumans, the Skrulls (who weren't even in his run, if memory serves), Annihilus, etc... haven't even been in an issue of F4 for years. Meanwhile, many of them have been featured quite prominently in other corners of the Marvel U.
When a character or alien race, once considered Fantastic Four characters, lacks a significant or prominent presence in the Fantastic Four comic (mini-series aside) for a decade (or longer), but has a Marvel "Event" centered around them, I think it's safe to assert that they have become overarching "Marvel characters", as opposed to just "Fantastic Four characters".

Again, I'm honestly not trying to be rude or anything, just expressing an opinion.
Sorry for my long-windedness Back to the Legends figures !

[En Sabah Nerd]

I thought Annihilus was in some recent FF stuff as that weird child Annihilus thing, technically it's just Annihilus reborn and growing since Nova gave him forced and traumatic internal surgery which put all of his spine and guts outside of his throat, but I digress. Technically Annihilus has been in a FF issue within the last few years, he returned with Johnny Storm when he was revealed to be alive.

[OGTrilogy]

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Originally Posted by VashTS

SLightly off topic, I was looking forward to the Watcher Diamond Select re-release, and about a week ago it was cancelled. I read on MArvelousNews(I think) that it was cancelled due to Disney's war with Fox.

So so future FF/Xmen figures in the next few years? I wonder if the was the real reason Mystique was canned from DST.

I was really looking forward to getting the Watcher figure also. It's a shame it got cancelled. We probably won't have another shot at any kind of Watcher figure unless he pops up in a movie, but then he most likely won't fit in with comics style figures.

[Frank Richards]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

I thought Annihilus was in some recent FF stuff as that weird child Annihilus thing, technically it's just Annihilus reborn and growing since Nova gave him forced and traumatic internal surgery which put all of his spine and guts outside of his throat, but I digress. Technically Annihilus has been in a FF issue within the last few years, he returned with Johnny Storm when he was revealed to be alive.

Yeah, the return of Annihilus to F4 and the death & return of Johnny was in Jonathan Hickman's run, which I mentioned was the first run in quite some time that had Annihilus, The Inhumans, The Kree, Ronan, etc...
Thanks to Hickman, some of these characters have become more present in F4 and FF (well, when it was still around), like Kang, Medusa, and Medusa's son Ahura, becoming regular characters in F4 & FF.
I probably should have expressed my thoughts more articulately and said "haven't been, prior to Hickman", instead of "haven't been", when referring to the appearances of certain characters in F4.

I still regard these characters that I've mentioned to be general Marvel characters though, not just because they have had numerous extended absences from F4, but largely because I feel that they've become so prominent and important in the overall Marvel Universe. I feel as if they've transcended the point where they should merely be considered supporting characters for the Fantastic Four.

Honestly, I apologize if my tone comes across as snarky or as if I'm a know-it-all in these posts. It's just hard to dispay my usual laid back nature through this medium, lol

[advocatepinoy]

Check out the review of the latest Hawkeye here:
http://www.toyark.com/marvel-legends...review-165605/


Marvel's Hawkeye by advocatepinoy, on Flickr

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

I have to believe that Hasbro can do a little better than this breathtaking version of the Goblin...if there was ever a need for an update...

I honestly love that figure. It's very stylized from the comic that design is from. It looks a little funny, I'll admit. But personally, I like it. I would still be 100% on board for a new one.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

I honestly love that figure. It's very stylized from the comic that design is from. It looks a little funny, I'll admit. But personally, I like it. I would still be 100% on board for a new one.

I've never seen it out of the package, so I guess I shouldn't be so critical. I don't like the hands or the feet, but the head is cool. I get that it's stylized and deliberately cartoonish. I just don't like the style choice for the body of the sculpt. It reminds me of Humberto Ramos' art (big hands and feet), a comic talent that I have a love hate relationship with (I'm probably courting another "hey, wait a minute" moment here ). I posted it in response to BlackArbor's pic because I believe the fig was intended to be that iteration of Goblin. I think the details and textures found on the sculpt are really cool, but the fig seems out of place with other Legends (IMO). It almost seems like it's a "superdeformed" styling similar to Manga and Anime....

[Spyne98]

^I'll take some pics this weekend and share them. I don't think I have posted anything from my collection.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Frank Richards

I'm not trying to be argumentative or disrespectful, but what you're inadvertently alluding to here is that Wolverine is “technically” a Hulk character, or that Sabretooth is an Iron Fist character.
There are a lot of Marvel characters that can't really be classified by their first appearance.

Yeah, sure, to avoid licensing conflicts, when Marvel and the various studios with whom they've worked with in the past were drawing up their contracts, yeah, certain characters were lumped into certain brands, typically reflecting the comics the movies were based on. However, the Marvel comic universe is a little too dynamic and ever-changing to be viewed so narrowly.

Black Panther, The Inhumans, The Kree, Kang (as Rama Tut), and soooo many others all initially appeared in the Fantastic Four comics, but they've moved beyond the label of just “Fantastic Four characters”.
Black Panther has become too significant, and if anything, is typically regarded as an independent hero, like Daredevil or Iron Fist. Also, Kang is largely identified as an Avengers villain, while the Kree, the Inhumans, and even Annihilus are largely lumped into the Cosmic Marvel pantheon.
With the exception of Jonathan Hickman's all-encompassing run, characters like Ronan (and the Kree in general), The Inhumans, the Skrulls (who weren't even in his run, if memory serves), Annihilus, etc... haven't even been in an issue of F4 for years. Meanwhile, many of them have been featured quite prominently in other corners of the Marvel U.
When a character or alien race, once considered Fantastic Four characters, lacks a significant or prominent presence in the Fantastic Four comic (mini-series aside) for a decade (or longer), but has a Marvel "Event" centered around them, I think it's safe to assert that they have become overarching "Marvel characters", as opposed to just "Fantastic Four characters".

Again, I'm honestly not trying to be rude or anything, just expressing an opinion.
Sorry for my long-windedness Back to the Legends figures !

your completely right ! just because they first appeared in someone elses comic doesn't make them that particular person or group. these toys aren't being made because Marvel is trying to screw with whomever has the rights currently. which i believe is Sony.... i recall speaking with people about why they didn't produce any days of Futures past figures. it was all a licensing issue.....

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

I honestly love that figure. It's very stylized from the comic that design is from. It looks a little funny, I'll admit. But personally, I like it. I would still be 100% on board for a new one.

That would be nice, man. Honestly, I have been curious about the fig. I've picked it up on many occasions, but it never made it home with me. I'm also curious about your collection and have noticed many of your BST Toy Biz treasures!

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Originally Posted by Frank Richards

Yeah, the return of Annihilus to F4 and the death & return of Johnny was in Jonathan Hickman's run, which I mentioned was the first run in quite some time that had Annihilus, The Inhumans, The Kree, Ronan, etc...
Thanks to Hickman, some of these characters have become more present in F4 and FF (well, when it was still around), like Kang, Medusa, and Medusa's son Ahura, becoming regular characters in F4 & FF.
I probably should have expressed my thoughts more articulately and said "haven't been, prior to Hickman", instead of "haven't been", when referring to the appearances of certain characters in F4.

I still regard these characters that I've mentioned to be general Marvel characters though, not just because they have had numerous extended absences from F4, but largely because I feel that they've become so prominent and important in the overall Marvel Universe. I feel as if they've transcended the point where they should merely be considered supporting characters for the Fantastic Four.

Honestly, I apologize if my tone comes across as snarky or as if I'm a know-it-all in these posts. It's just hard to dispay my usual laid back nature through this medium, lol

I know you didn't direct this to me, but your comment piqued my interest and makes for a good discussion. I definitely agree with you about the fluid nature of Marvel characters (or any comic pantheon: DC, Image, etc...). A phenomenon that only picks up speed as characters gain popularity/fans and evolve beyond their origins. That said, I also think the foundation/origin of a hero (or villain) is important when understanding the character as a whole.

I'd like to borrow one of your examples, if you don’t mind. Wolverine, while being one of the most iconic X-men, still has strong ties to the Hulk. Wolverine was a great foil for the Hulk considering that they are both essentially monsters, that just happen to do heroic things. This relationship has been played up by Marvel throughout the history of the characters in spite of the dramatically different directions the two have gone in since their first encounter. The Hulk vs 'toon (one of my fav Marvel animations) touched on this original relationship. The two have a shared moment (on the roof of a building) in the Infinity Gauntlet with Warlock even confirming their psychological connection and similarity in temperament. I can’t even begin to recall all of the times Wolvie and Banner have fought and touched upon the “kindred spirts” quality to their relationship. I tend to start at the beginning when trying to conceptualize the ethos behind these heroes/villains and I believe origins to be very important to the fundamental understanding of any character. I know I’m barking up a different tree than what you were getting at, but what you wrote stirred these thoughts …

About Marvel Studios vs Fox/Sony/the world (?); it’s all above my pay grade and I’m still scratching my head. I thought this licensing stuff was germane only in the case of movies. Then I find out that Surfer will be replaced by Beta Ray in the Planet Hulk ‘toon ; another all-time fav Marvel animation of mine that would have been even more satisfying had Surfer made it into the work. I wouldn’t actually care as much if these licensing issues were isolated to the films (I’m not very invested in the movies – I believe ‘toons can be better from a budget and casting perspective, but that’s another discussion), but to think I might not get another Surfer fig because Fox won’t relinquish their hold on all Kirby FF related properties makes me cringe. It seems like these squabbles are spilling over into ancillary subsets of comic culture and I’m aggravated by that fact…