[TnFigureTracker]

Got a chance to check a few local wal-marts today, and not a hint of the latest Spidey wave. Tombstone will continue to allude me for another day.

[redfox]

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Originally Posted by TnFigureTracker

Got a chance to check a few local wal-marts today, and not a hint of the latest Spidey wave. Tombstone will continue to allude me for another day.

I'm having the same luck with Walgreen's Invisible Woman...

[redfox]

With Hasbro pressed so tightly to the vein of the Spider-verse storyline, I wonder if they will do the same for the upcoming Venomverse?

[Nostalgic]

Is the new wave of Guardians Of The Galaxy showing up in stores yet? Will it be available at Target and Walmart?

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by redfox

With Hasbro pressed so tightly to the vein of the Spider-verse storyline, I wonder if they will do the same for the upcoming Venomverse?

I hope not honestly. There is a truth to having TOO much of a good thing. I know he is already a popular character, but I'd hate to see Venom hit Deadpool and Harley levels of saturation.

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I hope not honestly. There is a truth to having TOO much of a good thing. I know he is already a popular character, but I'd hate to see Venom hit Deadpool and Harley levels of saturation.

Yeah I worry too. I hope you don't end up getting 20 venoms in the next two years. Too much of a good thing you know?

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Nostalgic

Is the new wave of Guardians Of The Galaxy showing up in stores yet? Will it be available at Target and Walmart?

I haven't seen any yet but I'm sure they'll be out soon enough. Then there's still the Ego/Star-Lord pack after that, EE says that won't be out until August and supposedly they're getting it earlier than everyone else.

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by redfox

With Hasbro pressed so tightly to the vein of the Spider-verse storyline, I wonder if they will do the same for the upcoming Venomverse?

I personally wouldn't mind a symbiote version of quite a few of these characters. For those not in the loop of current comics quite a few characters have turned up with a symbiote as a variant cover special. Some are also real bad ass !

[Captain Nash]

If we can get symbiote versions of characters can we get brood versions as well?

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I hope not honestly. There is a truth to having TOO much of a good thing. I know he is already a popular character, but I'd hate to see Venom hit Deadpool and Harley levels of saturation.

No offense to Venom fans, but don't you think the character jumped that shark many years ago? IMHO, that threshold was crossed around the time they had Carnage's (??? - may need clarification - the story irked me so much that I purposely never read it) symbiote take over Silver Surfer...pffffft..as if. Don't get me wrong, I don't totally hate Venom. That said, I also don't run toward stories featuring the character either. I wouldn't put him at Deadpool lvls, but he's real close.

[redfox]

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

Yeah I worry too. I hope you don't end up getting 20 venoms in the next two years. Too much of a good thing you know?

Well Hasbro has already put out four that are somewhat headlining on the front of the oversized Venomverse pic: Original Venom, Agent Venom, Superior Venom, and Space Venom. I don't think that Hasbro has enough resolve to stop there.

[LapuLapu]

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Originally Posted by redfox

Well Hasbro has already put out four that are somewhat headlining on the front of the oversized Venomverse pic: Original Venom, Agent Venom, Superior Venom, and Space Venom. I don't think that Hasbro has enough resolve to stop there.

You forgot Marc Gargan venom




Edit: NVM, you were basing it on the pic.

[TheBlueMarvel]

^ ...not in the pic, but don't forget Anti-Venom.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

No offense to Venom fans, but don't you think the character jumped that shark many years ago? IMHO, that threshold was crossed around the time they had Carnage's (??? - may need clarification - the story irked me so much that I purposely never read it) symbiote take over Silver Surfer...pffffft..as if. Don't get me wrong, I don't totally hate Venom. That said, I also don't run toward stories featuring the character either. I wouldn't put him at Deadpool lvls, but he's real close.

I know everyone loves brock as fenom but i personally felt, for, flash thompson agent venom was at his best. Especially since brock was toxin at the time. I didnt care for space venom but i woulda liked to have seen flash stay as venoms host and retirn to the commando look.

[Tomax]

I only like venom, don't like the other knock offs like carnage and anti-whatever. the best venom fig is Diamond select's by the way...

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

I personally wouldn't mind a symbiote version of quite a few of these characters. For those not in the loop of current comics quite a few characters have turned up with a symbiote as a variant cover special. Some are also real bad ass !

Out of that pic, the only ones I'd really like to see are the Angelo Fortunato Venom (I always liked that look for the character), Earth X Venom (it's Alex Ross after all...) and the classic Eddie Brock in Venom jacket from issue #375, but NOT before we get the Life Foundation Symbiotes in their entirety.

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

No offense to Venom fans, but don't you think the character jumped that shark many years ago? IMHO, that threshold was crossed around the time they had Carnage's (??? - may need clarification - the story irked me so much that I purposely never read it) symbiote take over Silver Surfer...pffffft..as if. Don't get me wrong, I don't totally hate Venom. That said, I also don't run toward stories featuring the character either. I wouldn't put him at Deadpool lvls, but he's real close.

I don't take offense to it because I agree with it. There was a period from about 1992 to 1997 where you couldn't walk down a street without bumping into something Venom related along the way. Then Marvel completely jumped the shark and essentially tried printing money with the guy, with all of the awful limited series (they got really bad after the Madness...although I enjoyed Separation Anxiety...) goofy action figures, T-shirts, posters, video games etc. By then the character had become so watered down during his anti-hero run that I briefly stopped being interested in him altogether. I mean, did Marvel really expect me to buy a 3 issue mini-series with him battling a Pied Piper emulating Demo-Goblin, or "The Mace", a Rob Liefeld looking, reject cyber ninja...at 3 bucks a pop no less?

I because I always felt that he was at his best when Brock was stalking Peter. As a villain, he had charm and charisma, was slick and tricky, and felt passionate, and as a hero for the most part, he just kinda felt forced and cliche', and eventually he kinda faded off because the well had run dry.

Then the thing with Flash Thompson cosplaying as Veno-sher happened and lone behold, here we go again. Thankfully it hasn't hit Deadpool levels yet, but I can imagine that once that first trailer for Sony's Venom drops, it'll be 1996 all over again...or worse...it'll be Harley or DP from last summer...

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

I know everyone loves brock as Venom but i personally felt, for, flash thompson agent venom was at his best. Especially since brock was toxin at the time. I didnt care for space venom but i woulda liked to have seen flash stay as venoms host and retirn to the commando look.

Flash was never Venom to me. To me, Flash was a dude doing a Venom cosplay that he read back in an old "What If" issue, only Frank Castle did it way better.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

I know everyone loves brock as fenom but i personally felt, for, flash thompson agent venom was at his best. Especially since brock was toxin at the time. I didnt care for space venom but i woulda liked to have seen flash stay as venoms host and retirn to the commando look.

Keep in mind that the following opinions are those of someone that has experienced Venom ((outside of the character's origin - both as the symbiote/Secret Wars, and later, as Brock/Spidey books)) from a distance.

For me, Brock is the most acceptable Venom. His hatred for Parker/Spidey was written well enough and coupled smartly with the demented/spurned/jilted lover that represents the symbiote's feelings for Peter, its first human host. However, that was then.

As is common knowledge, Venom has since morphed, first into an Anti-hero, then later, transitioning into a full-blown hero. Personally, I think this move represents a mistake that Marvel often makes when a villainous character becomes far more popular than they'd anticipated (ie Doom - eventually in the Future Foundation, Magneto - multiple stints as the leader of the X-men, Thanos - Infinity War/Crusade, etc). As a reformed hero, Flash makes more sense than Brock. Spidey fans had already been treated to the reformation of Flash; from bully of Petey in HS to buddy in college. He sorta fits a reformed Venom role, as a result. So from that perspective, I feel what you're saying. The only caveat I would offer is that while that's fine for Flash, it chafes for Brock.

All that shared. my preference for Venom is for him to be evil. That may be why I was one of the few in my circle of friends to like the Scorpion Venom. It was clumsy and flawed, but at least he represented a Venom I was more familiar (and comfortable) with...crazy, tormented, and hateful. Villains are sometimes popular. Marvel understood this at one point. I've read and own many old Silver Age comics that featured villains in stand alone stories. Stories just about Doom doing F'ed up shit. Team-ups between villains; most notably, Namor and Doom. If Marvel's going to make an anti-hero Venom, he should at least skew toward malevolent. Bare minimum? Neutral/Evil.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

I don't take offense to it because I agree with it. There was a period from about 1992 to 1997 where you couldn't walk down a street without bumping into something Venom related along the way. Then Marvel completely jumped the shark and essentially tried printing money with the guy, with all of the awful limited series (they got really bad after the Madness...although I enjoyed Separation Anxiety...) goofy action figures, T-shirts, posters, video games etc. By then the character had become so watered down during his anti-hero run that I briefly stopped being interested in him altogether. I mean, did Marvel really expect me to buy a 3 issue mini-series with him battling a Pied Piper emulating Demo-Goblin, or "The Mace", a Rob Liefeld looking, reject cyber ninja...at 3 bucks a pop no less?

I because I always felt that he was at his best when Brock was stalking Peter. As a villain, he had charm and charisma, was slick and tricky, and felt passionate, and as a hero for the most part, he just kinda felt forced and cliche', and eventually he kinda faded off because the well had run dry.

Then the thing with Flash Thompson cosplaying as Veno-sher happened and lone behold, here we go again. Thankfully it hasn't hit Deadpool levels yet, but I can imagine that once that first trailer for Sony's Venom drops, it'll be 1996 all over again...or worse...it'll be Harley or DP from last summer...

Lol...we're in total agreement, my dude. '96 was so bad for so many characters and books, I wasn't even paying attention to comics during that period...I found better things to do with my time and money...much like now...

[Weapon X]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Then Marvel completely jumped the shark and essentially tried printing money with the guy

I'd kill to see someone photoshop money with Venom on it

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

I'd kill to see someone photoshop money with Venom on it

Fun fact: they wouldn't even have to photoshop it if they're using US dollars. It is actually legal to draw on American legal tender bills so long as the serial numbers, printers mark, etc. are left unmarked. Of course the indication of the value must also be unaltered. There's plenty of people who have done pirate presidents or comic book characters over the faces on the bills and the bills still retain value as currency. Don't know if any other countries also have this.

[MeLikeJinx]

I never liked the ML Venom from the Spider Gwen wave... the headsculpt was nice, but I always thought Venom should be huge... not like Hulk huge, but almost.

[donmeca2020]

See you guys haven't seen what im thinking of. while yes there is only 1 venom, which i feel is Brock. there have been numerous others that i think are just wild looking characters that have kind of blown up. here are a few examples. keep in mind these aren't all venom. these will be different versions of characters with a symbiote, not the venom symbiote specifically.

some would be a definite hot seller, while like other figures that are released in other waves. they will probabaly be pegwarming...

[redfox]

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Originally Posted by LapuLapu

You forgot Marc Gargan venom



Edit: NVM, you were basing it on the pic.

Yeah, I was just referencing the figures from recent Legends waves, but I think you might be right, too. I believe that's the Mac Gargan Venom beneath the Venom-ized MJ.

[Parademon1]

Eddie Brock Venom for me. The rest is just overkill IMO. Same goes for all the other Spider related characters. Just Peter Parker Spiderman for me as well. Marvel is just milking the Spider-verse cash cow for all it's worth & the sad thing is there are suckers that demand more. "Spider-Gwen"? WTF!

[MeLikeJinx]

^ That's pretty much how I feel except I would add 3 more... Symbiote/Black Suit Spidey, Mary Jane & Black Cat... and yah... Eddie Brock Venom and regular red & blue Spidey... so 5 for me.