[thechris]

Since someone will post this anyway, I may as well do it:

Captain Killdozer with his crazy homemade mobile fortress, the Zodiac Killer, Jack the Ripper, Gacy the Clown, Spring-Heeled Jack, Dr. Chaos, sexy russian spy girl Anna Chapman and adorable russian hacker chick, Kristina Svechinskaya. All real life super villains. Discuss.

[omega145]

Saddam hussein?
Jeffrey Dahmer?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Justin beiber?
George W. Bush?
Actually since there's no real life super heroes (don't count those costumed clowns that pretend to don't crime) then there can't be any real life super villians, right?

[Optimus Vader]

H.H. Holmes.

Dude was no joke as far as serial killers go. No one knows exactly how many people he killed, but it speculated by many that his numbers make guys like Dahmer look like rookies. Although, I don't believe he ate his victims. Just tortured and killed them.

[CLASSIFIED]

None of them any match for Phoenix Jones, though I don't think I would include any serial killers on the list as they don't really count as super villians IMO.

A real life super villian would have to be someone who dresses up in a costume and then goes out and commits a crime, like the guys who dressed up as Spiderman and started robbing places.

Even that would be iffy since the Spiderman Bandits were just concealing their identities as opposed to creating a unique super villian persona all their own.

[Optimus Vader]

Well technically, we live in the real world so there is no such thing as a super villain, so I defaulted to a super evil man.

Without bringing religion into this, I have a hard time thinking of anything closer.

[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by Optimus Vader

Well technically, we live in the real world so there is no such thing as a super villain, so I defaulted to a super evil man.

Without bringing religion into this, I have a hard time thinking of anything closer.

Fair enough, though I am unfammiliar with H. Holmes.

I guess I saw this thread as a response to Phoenix Jones, so I figured it ought to be about people dressing up and commiting crimes.

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by omega145

Saddam hussein?
Jeffrey Dahmer?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Justin beiber?
George W. Bush?
Actually since there's no real life super heroes (don't count those costumed clowns that pretend to don't crime) then there can't be any real life super villians, right?

You hit 2 of 3 and forgot Stalin from WW2 also I'd say Rasputin and I'm pretty sure they used him in the comics maybe it was a Colossus story if I'm not mistaken

[thechris]

I think as far as "costumed villains" go, The Zodiac Killer and Captain Killdozer would be pretty up there. Killdozer built a super weapon and leveled a small town. Zodiac had an actual costume and emblem on his chest. Dr. Chaos caused global chaos with his elite hacking skills. If Foolkiller, Calculator, Jigsaw, Saracan and Crossbones can be considered supervillains, then surely these guys are closer to real life super villains.

In fact, they're even closer to their comic book counterparts by definition (in that they're committing real life heinous crimes) than these heroes (while some of them do good in the world like visit schools and go to charity events) clearly haven't reached the magnitude of what a superhero is by most comic book definition. It's not that I condone what they're doing, but it's a lot easier to be a real life Super Villain than a real life Super Hero. All you need to gain validity is to commit terrible crimes and have a gimmick, right? And these guys are obviously insane further driving them to be reckless.

And jokes aside, we have people who are supposed to save people from petty crimes and dangerous situations. I don't want to debate how well they do their jobs. I'm just saying that when some guy wears a costume and pepper sprays people for committing petty crimes, it doesn't seem all that impressive and a lot of people even consider it a joke. On the other hand, when some creepy psycho murders what he claims have been hundreds of people while wearing a creepy costume, then leaves cryptic messages to the police and all the while, he has NEVER been caught... Well, that's pretty bad, but that makes him even worse than the Riddler during his initial run as he never really killed anybody.

This gets news. This is what I'd think of as a villain. It's easier to find terrible crimes to commit than it is to find big crimes to save people from, right? As morbid as it may sound, by the time Phoenix Jones finds a real crime to pepper spray, in his day, Zodiac will have killed 10 people, left notes, gotten away. Killdozer would have leveled 10 small towns. I don't think you necessarily need to have a real life superhero arch nemesis in order to be defined as a supervillain. If the day ever came where we had real life supervillains battling with real life superheroes, our world will be in true peril. LOL. I could totally see a Kingdom Come situation or if anyone played Fallout 3, the AntAgonizer and the Mechanist.

Can you imagine a psycho challenging these "costumed heroes" and going on a killing spree? Won't be so fun, then...