[Greenskar]

So for those of you behind in the rumor mill, the big talk lately has been that supposedly the end credits of Avengers 2 could potentially involve sending the Hulk into space. This has caused many message boards to erupt in speculation of how Marvel could possibly adapt a Planet Hulk movie for the big screen in the absence of key characters of the illuminati due to Licensing issues.

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I for one would love to see a Planet Hulk film (as if my Avatar, screen name and SIG didn't tell you that) on the big screen that utilizes a more intelligent Hulk like in the comic, and to address the fans who wonder how they would possibly work Rufallo's banner in here's my suggestion: neither TV, cartoons or anime movies have managed to depict a Hulk who is in constant turmoil with Banner in the sense that Banner is the one trying to break out. Let's show the Hulk in control and as his own thinking and speaking character on Planet Sakaar and have moments where Banner is constantly tormenting him sub consciously to let him out or bitch about his mistakes.

With Rufallo behind the Hulk's actual Motion Capture he can actually become the Hulk the way the actors were the big blue Aliens in Avatar or Andy Serkeis was as Gollum in LotR. I think this could be the perfect opportunity, with some story tweaking to make the big screen adaptation work, to introduce the world to a Hulk they never even knew existed or could exist and could make for an interesting split audience in Avengers 3, if they go the WWH route, with those who are sympathetic for Hulk after Planet Hulk and those who are fans of the other Avengers members and think they were in the right.

I would love to see the message boards explode over that scenario if the movies were done properly. Anyway have fun voicing your opinions on this rumor. I know many people would hate to see a WWH Avengers movie especially after the threat of Thanos just passed, so this out ta be interesting.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

With Rufallo behind the Hulk's actual Motion Capture he can actually become the Hulk the way the actors were the big blue Aliens in Avatar or Andy Serkeis was as Gollum in LotR. I think this could be the perfect opportunity, with some story tweaking to make the big screen adaptation work, to introduce the world to a Hulk they never even knew existed or could exist and could make for an interesting split audience in Avengers 3, if they go the WWH route, with those who are sympathetic for Hulk after Planet Hulk and those who are fans of the other Avengers members and think they were in the right.

This would be interesting. While I've never read it, and not really a hulk fan, Planet Hulk is one of the extremely few things Marvel has done over the last decade or so that has actually interested me.

To address what I've quoted, I think Gollum is more in line of what they could do, than Avatar.
Even down to how Sirkus portrayed the two competing sides of Gollum could work. Though I'd prefer them not ripoff Sirkus completely.

In aid of getting across the Banner Turmoil, they could pretty much make it obvious without verbal explinations that as the hulk 's intellegence grew, Banner found it easier to communicate, and even control the hulk when Hulk is in charge. At the same time, he's more likely to relent and let Hulk have control if he's at peace that Hulk most likely won't destroy a city and kill people.

[trebleshot]

I'd be up for it. It's a good way for them to do another Hulk movie without having to rehash his origin or repeat anything from the first two Hulk films.

I do think there needs to be another Hulk film first before they do Planet Hulk. Maybe it could take place between Avengers 2 and 3 and further set up Hulk's shift in intelligence and the growing concerns of the MMU Illuminati.

[MegaPrime33]

The problem with Planet Hulk is that he never becomes Bruce Banner and that can pose a problem, as most actors insist on showing their face on camera, ala Tobey Maguire in Spiderman. Planet Hulk is a great story line and was a great animated movie, but not sure how it will carry over to a full length movie.

[Crazy Jetty]

Well, to be fair (And I'm aware of what you mean and that this isn't quite the same thing), Ruffalo is the first person to ever play both Banner AND Hulk. And Hulk's face is based on Ruffalo's.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

To address what I've quoted, I think Gollum is more in line of what they could do, than Avatar.
Even down to how Sirkus portrayed the two competing sides of Gollum could work. Though I'd prefer them not ripoff Sirkus completely.

In aid of getting across the Banner Turmoil, they could pretty much make it obvious without verbal explinations that as the hulk 's intellegence grew, Banner found it easier to communicate, and even control the hulk when Hulk is in charge. At the same time, he's more likely to relent and let Hulk have control if he's at peace that Hulk most likely won't destroy a city and kill people.

I agree, about Gollum. The thing with Gollum though was he was schizophrenic and didn't turn into another creature physically, just mentally. Banner and the Hulk have traditionally been presented as two seperate beings somehow stuck within each other depending on who's active at the time. With the Banner Hulk dynamic in the comic, Hulk was way too pissed off to let Banner back out because in a way I think he blamed Banner's naivity and weak nature as the reason they were tricked into exile. The Gladiator like theme of this oppressed world Hulk was thrown into nurtured his every basic desire to the point where he was actually offered his freedom to just leave and not come back and be treated like a monster, and Hulk replied "but they know what a Monster likes."

So Banner was now this mental conscience that manifested himself as Banner in physical form to try to convince Hulk to let him out. In essence its the complete inverse theme we're used to; instead of Banner trying to contain the beast within, Planet Hulk was Banner being caged within the beast. More to this dynamic in the bottom paragraph.

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I'd be up for it. It's a good way for them to do another Hulk movie without having to rehash his origin or repeat anything from the first two Hulk films.

I do think there needs to be another Hulk film first before they do Planet Hulk. Maybe it could take place between Avengers 2 and 3 and further set up Hulk's shift in intelligence and the growing concerns of the MMU Illuminati.

I agree there should be another Hulk film to establish his new shift in intelligence. Unfortunately, since Phase 2 is currently set up: Iron Man 3, Thor-The Dark World, Captain America- The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers 2

It would appear that if the Planet Hulk Rumor is true, he would be well on his way to Planet Sakaar before Phase 3 even released the first film(s) which are currently Ant Man and Dr. Strange.

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Originally Posted by MegaPrime33

The problem with Planet Hulk is that he never becomes Bruce Banner and that can pose a problem, as most actors insist on showing their face on camera, ala Tobey Maguire in Spiderman. Planet Hulk is a great story line and was a great animated movie, but not sure how it will carry over to a full length movie.

This is not entirely true although you express a very valid concern. Did anyone watch the TV show Heroes beyond season 1or Fringe by any chance? If so, remember when the cop telepath (chubby dude) wiped Sylar's mind and then it turned out Sylar was stuck in his head and he started seeing Sylar like he was physically there with him conversing with him? Well the story sucked, but that's not my point, lol. Fringe did this in Season 3 with Olivia and Peter to an extent.

My point is that using that type of interaction with Mark Rufallo's Banner manifesting himself
in front of Hulk like he's actually there to visualize the Hulk/Banner internal conflict for the audience. That is how you keep Banner relevant to the audience until the end when Caiera the Oldstrong finally requests Hulk to let Banner out so she can meet "all of him" before she marries him. This could absolutely work, I think.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

My point is that using that type of interaction with Mark Rufallo's Banner manifesting himself
in front of Hulk like he's actually there to visualize the Hulk/Banner internal conflict for the audience. That is how you keep Banner relevant to the audience until the end when Caiera the Oldstrong finally requests Hulk to let Banner out so she can meet "all of him" before she marries him. This could absolutely work, I think.

There's also mirrors, and reflective surfaces that Hulk could talk into with Banner talking out of, to establish conversations between the two without resorting to Gollum's visual schizophrenia. Of course, the conversations are all in Hulk's head, but it works visually for the audiance. And could go on for several scenes, establishing this as normal to the audiance, until someone walks in on Hulk talking to himself. Then it's like "Oh crap, dude's gone crazy."

On a side note... a few people have lead me to believe (IE, I was told) that the planet Hulk landed on had gravity so dense that Hulk couldn't even move for some time after arriving. Wouldn't that outright kill banner if Hulk reverted?
Or was I mislead?

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

There's also mirrors, and reflective surfaces that Hulk could talk into with Banner talking out of, to establish conversations between the two without resorting to Gollum's visual schizophrenia. Of course, the conversations are all in Hulk's head, but it works visually for the audiance. And could go on for several scenes, establishing this as normal to the audiance, until someone walks in on Hulk talking to himself. Then it's like "Oh crap, dude's gone crazy."

On a side note... a few people have lead me to believe (IE, I was told) that the planet Hulk landed on had gravity so dense that Hulk couldn't even move for some time after arriving. Wouldn't that outright kill banner if Hulk reverted?
Or was I mislead?

Ooooh Iike the idea of the mirrors...but didn't William Dafoe do that already as Norman Osborn? Either way if it works and works well, I say keep it.

As for the gravity thing, not quite. It was a portal/wormhole in space that led him to the planet. According to the natives of the planet anything that enters that portal and lands in their planet always had negative side effects of some sort. In the case of powered beings, they lost quite a bit of their strength and or invulnerability. The effects were only temporary and eventually, he was back at full strength. However, even if gravity were the case, nothing kills Banner because he always just reverts back to Hulk when his life is threatened, which is why all his suicide attempts have failed.

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by MegaPrime33

The problem with Planet Hulk is that he never becomes Bruce Banner and that can pose a problem, as most actors insist on showing their face on camera, ala Tobey Maguire in Spiderman. Planet Hulk is a great story line and was a great animated movie, but not sure how it will carry over to a full length movie.

We all know move adaptations take a lot of liberties with their source material. I think they can make it work with a few changes. Like has already been mentioned about making Hulk see Banner in way that it's clear Banner is a projection of his mind. Would be amazing if they actually can do it. I really hope Marvel goes through with this idea but I don't want to get too excited just yet.

[Greenskar]

Oh well. It was a fun fantasy for a Planet Hulk fan while it lasted.

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