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Xiztizen Kang 05-27-2014 04:22 PM

Why do toy companies hate bicep and thigh swivels?
 
Neca, McFarlane, Hasbro, Mattel, and even DC Collectibles now uses elbow and knee swivels for many of their figure lines which breaks the sculpt and makes alot of poses ugly and undesirable. It makes a bit more sense for toys aimed at young children but why the desicion to use it for adult collecters figures like the McFarlane Walking Dead, Neca Predator, and DC Collectible Batman Arkham Origins? Is it that much cheaper to do? Is it something they think the consumer wants?

Trivial Psychic 05-27-2014 04:48 PM

I'm really not sure what you're asking? You mention that companies hate swivels, and then mention that it's the faddish thing in turns of sculpting that companies are doing now. Which is it?

I don't think any of those companies are doing terrible jobs in their articulation. NECA for example has gotten way better (their qc issues aside) when it comes to articulation, as has Mcfarlane. Just look at the articulation of the Predator and Walking Dead lines now as compared to their earlier offerings. It's like night and day. The older lines were essentially plastic statues, while the later lines are fully functional action figures. Fragile action figures, but functional nevertheless.

warmachine6 05-27-2014 06:08 PM

i think what hes asking how come toy manufacturers don't use elbow and knee swivels or doing them ?
i too am confused

from what i guessing from the thread's actual question it could be money wise some figures have them and some don't due today world of costing more money when people do more work ??

although I know they still do them swivels... if the question is why using them is because there action figures not statues this what i got from this line " elbow and knee swivels for many of their figure lines which breaks the sculpt and makes alot of poses ugly and undesirable"

I'm guessing your thinking that todays smaller scale figures are statues and that the swivels etc break , but these arent statues but figures that have these swivels to give them "Action"

I'm not 100% sure if my answers are correct could you give us the question again that'll help us understand more

trebleshot 05-28-2014 12:24 PM

I'm also a little confused as the thread title doesn't seem to jive well with the initial post.

Maybe you mean using hinged joints instead of hinge/swivel or pin/disc joints?

Or do you mean swivels closer to the elbow and knee joints instead of higher up near the bicep and thigh?

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Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 529014)
from what i guessing from the thread's actual question it could be money wise some figures have them and some don't due today world of costing more money when people do more work ??

Articulation does cost money.

More joints = higher parts count = higher tooling costs + materials costs + man-hours at the factory assembling it.

Sorrow Bringer 05-28-2014 02:17 PM

If youre talking about thesame thigh swivels as Dc universe( cut thighs) now thats ugly.

CMIII 05-28-2014 04:45 PM

Mattel has never cut the Thigh/Bicep Swivel at least not in the 4 Horsemen DC Figures. Only one that I know of does/did not have it and thats Larfleeze. While I am the first to Bash Mattel in this case your wrong about them (I cannot speak for MOTUC figures since I do not collect them and if you are talking about total heroes again I do not own any)


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