Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 704598)

Yeah, I know they didn't come with BAF pieces. I wasn't talking about build a figure lines with ToyBiz. The only thing that I was mentioning involving ToyBiz was that they bombarded us with Spider-Man (and to a lesser extent, Wolverine figures.)

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 704601)

They never release the silver centurion armor....WHYYYYYYYYY?!!!

Originally Posted by Jerseysteel (Post 704608)

I know, but you are talking about a Spiderman only line. Just like the xmen line was it's own line. Then there was marvel legends which covered all of marvel. It just so happened that both the spiderman and xmen lines released figures that worked for marvel legends



Toybiz released that armor

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 704609)

I know but im talking nowadays. I mean hadbro released that modular looking armor in the iron monger wave, released seceral new movie ones and are even recoloring his civil war armor into the....ugh....ultimate obe....but yet they will not release, with the new modern articulation a silver centurion armor. I hate it!

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 704609)

I know but im talking nowadays. I mean hadbro released that modular looking armor in the iron monger wave, released seceral new movie ones and are even recoloring his civil war armor into the....ugh....ultimate obe....but yet they will not release, with the new modern articulation a silver centurion armor. I hate it!

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 704612)

Wasn't the briefcase armor Iron man supposed to be considered the Silver Centurion armor...at least in the film continuity? If that is the case...Hasbro did give us one variation of the look...albeit the MCU one.

I feel you though...I still want a proper Ultimates Iron Man, complete with Anime proportions like the Select figure had. That sad, vacmetal excuse for the armor they gave us back with the Annihlus wave just doesn't cut it. I'm going to have to settle for the upcoming MCU one instead... :(

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 704612)

Wasn't the briefcase armor Iron man supposed to be considered the Silver Centurion armor...at least in the film continuity? If that is the case...Hasbro did give us one variation of the look...albeit the MCU one.

I feel you though...I still want a proper Ultimates Iron Man, complete with Anime proportions like the Select figure had. That sad, vacmetal excuse for the armor they gave us back with the Annihlus wave just doesn't cut it. I'm going to have to settle for the upcoming MCU one instead... :(

Originally Posted by Weapon X (Post 704619)

I wish my parents had taught me that. I had to rebuy quite a few once I got older.

But...I did have a lot of fun with them as a kid. Sometimes I wish toys were more sturdy so you could roughhouse with them. I miss making my toys fight.

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 704549)

I'm pretty sure that the average person who's not a comic book fan doesn't know who Gambit is. Remember, these are toys being sold at mass retail, and a huge portion of the audience for Legends is still kids. Considering there hasn't been an X-Men cartoon on the air in over 8 years, and he hasn't appeared in a movie in the same amount of time, I wouldn't expect the majority of kids or parents to have heard about him, unless they've been keeping up with the news of the in-development Gambit movie, which the majority of them probably haven't.

I'm by no means saying that we're never getting a Gambit (we'll almost certainly get him eventually), I'm just saying he's not going to be headlining a wave anytime soon. Same with other characters. Unless they're Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man or Wolverine, or they're someone else who's a main character in a big movie, they're not going to be headlining a wave. They can be in one, but no way they're going to be headlining one.

Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey (Post 704540)

Even if Hasbro's been running the line for 11 years, there's absolutely no reason for them to repackage the same exact figure multiple times within the span of a year other than being plain lazy. Ultimate Spider-Man JUST came out last year and there's likely still stores in the U.S. that haven't moved out the old Spider-Man waves to make room for the wave that he was in, not to mention this version comes with even less accessories. Releasing multiple versions of a character over a couple of years is one thing. Releasing the same character 3 times within the same year like they've been doing with Star-Lord, Spider-Man, Captain America, Iron-Man, etc., is absolutely ridiculous.

And as others have mentioned, yeah sure, we can simply not buy it, but when you're locking a BAF of a popular character behind a wave full of redoes and repaints of the SAME character or when you're packaging fan-requested characters in a $40 pack that includes a re-release of a figure you already have several times over, the complaints are perfectly valid.

And it's frustrating because they still have so much ground to cover with the Legends line, and they're wasting time on figures we already have. I honest to God thought it was dumb as hell that they'd sell us a Star Lord figure as part of the new Guardians wave, only to tell us maybe a couple of weeks later that they're selling the same Star Lord figure, except this time he comes with a brand new character in a web-exclusive 2-pk for 40 dollars.

Originally Posted by AFU (Post 704645)

I hear you, but X Force, Jubilee BAF wave, and Puck wave are some of the most popular waves to date, and there was no Spider-Man, Iron-Man or Cap in this wave. I see your point, but giving Hasbro a pass, not me. And, people, please stop saying this is a children's line...Most of the people who pick the selection of figures at SDCC are adults picking the next wave...Adults are the ones that have the money, and are usually collectors before their children, and are the ones who pass the hobby onto their children. But, to each is own, buddy...No harm, no foul, fellow Arker!

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 704652)

1) We're not saying this is a children's line, we're saying way too many children buy them to not take them into account.

2) You know what character those waves and that set did have? Wolverine, one of the four (not three) we mentioned as being the ones having to always be included in a wave. Our point still stands.

Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 704657)

Thinking about building Galactus and Mojo from the old ToyBiz line. Picked up these guys today...

Originally Posted by Jerseysteel (Post 704655)

What I miss about Toybiz is they released whatever. Every wave didn't have a cap or iron man or wolverine. Personally I think it's Hasbro just being lazy and trying to maximize profits by rereleasing the same stuff over and over. Just look at all the lazy redecos they did for transformers combiner wars.

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 704659)

Yah that cw stuff was hot for a bit but hasbros cheapassedness and lazynezz put the heat out.

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 704661)

Yes, but...does the civil war stuff really count as releasing the same figures over and over if the wave never hits retail, like wave 3 did? I kid..mostly. I mean, I know it's online.

Honestly if I were Hasbro I'd be so mad about the Space Venom and Abomination waves. You know they likely made equal amounts of those waves as they did of the others..and retail just never ordered them. It's possible since there's not another Captain America movie we might see the Abomination wave hit this year, belatedly, but with 2-3 Spider Man waves a year, I don't think we'll have a time that retailers are going to be reaching for Spider-man stuff to put out.

I'm also hoping Hasbro has learned their lesson. A movie can support one wave for sure. Two waves max. Three waves is just asking for retail backlog stock disaster. Which is why when those rumors about a GOTG wave 3 were starting, I was very skeptical. I'm not saying fans wouldn't want to buy them...but it doesn't matter if they do or not if they don't ever make it to the stores. And to retailing systems a wave that includes fan favorites will be coded the same way as repackaged figures.

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 704663)

I meant combiner wars line of transformers joisey mentioned.

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 704669)

D'oh! Haha. now I see. Ah well, my comment still stands on its own merit LOL, it's just another of my random diatribes I generate every once on a while. :D

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 704652)

1) We're not saying this is a children's line, we're saying way too many children buy them to not take them into account.

2) You know what character those waves and that set did have? Wolverine, one of the four (not three) we mentioned as being the ones having to always be included in a wave. Our point still stands.

Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 704657)

Thinking about building Galactus and Mojo from the old ToyBiz line. Picked up these guys today...

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 704661)

Yes, but...does the civil war stuff really count as releasing the same figures over and over if the wave never hits retail, like wave 3 did? I kid..mostly. I mean, I know it's online.

Honestly if I were Hasbro I'd be so mad about the Space Venom and Abomination waves. You know they likely made equal amounts of those waves as they did of the others..and retail just never ordered them. It's possible since there's not another Captain America movie we might see the Abomination wave hit this year, belatedly, but with 2-3 Spider Man waves a year, I don't think we'll have a time that retailers are going to be reaching for Spider-man stuff to put out.

I'm also hoping Hasbro has learned their lesson. A movie can support one wave for sure. Two waves max. Three waves is just asking for retail backlog stock disaster. Which is why when those rumors about a GOTG wave 3 were starting, I was very skeptical. I'm not saying fans wouldn't want to buy them...but it doesn't matter if they do or not if they don't ever make it to the stores. And to retailing systems a wave that includes fan favorites will be coded the same way as repackaged figures.