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-   -   The Marvel Scalpers, Resellers & Ripoffs Rant Thread (https://www.toyark.com/forums/marvel-scalpers-resellers-ripoffs-rant-thread-160404/)

Iceman 07-10-2015 07:15 PM

I think the sales have been good so there is less of it as product flows. Problem is people still have that mindset that things are "rare" so they will overpay to get Davedevil or someone else viewed as "scalpable" as soon as the wave hits out of desperation. Hopefully when they see them at store over store for months they will get over that impulse.

Phantomcrow 07-10-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 608114)
I think the sales have been good so there is less of it as product flows. Problem is people still have that mindset that things are "rare" so they will overpay to get Davedevil or someone else viewed as "scalpable" as soon as the wave hits out of desperation. Hopefully when they see them at store over store for months they will get over that impulse.

I just saw 3 of that "Rare" Daredevil Marvel Legends in the past 3 days.

I think the problem is not so much scalping, that is just people trying to get some money.

The problem is the swap assholes that get a figure and take the part or figure and replace it with something else and return it. I could even understand just stealing a figure or BAF part, but the whole replacing it is just a total d-bag move.

Kernel 07-10-2015 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 608106)
what's left to scalp in ML? I can literally make a 45 minute loop around my house right now and have the entire last four waves at retail peg warming like no other. I think it boils down to this:
Good distribution = no scalping.

Agreed. I can get any legends figure from the past 2 years or so fairly easily (seen quite a few on clearance) except for black widow from TWS.

Kamatayan 07-10-2015 11:51 PM

Cloning
 
I forgot what the process was, but can't anyone take any figure and just make a duplicate of it that is all white or something and mark it off as a prototype on eBay?

todigandbedug 07-11-2015 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608097)
Almost all of the legends figures have been easy to find, even the women. I'm sure spidergwen will not be hard to find but who knows.



I would call them a thief more than a scalper I bet. My TRU beefed up security on the legends with a lockbox and electronic device after getting ripped off so many times.

Seriously? It's hard to imagine that. Do you have a picture? Crazy to think that Legends would 'cause such a problem versus other $20 price-point figures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608148)
Agreed. I can get any legends figure from the past 2 years or so fairly easily (seen quite a few on clearance) except for black widow from TWS.

I agree that that's true of almost all the figures from the past two years, except for Magneto and Storm from the X-Men TRU Exclusive wave. Those two often go for triple digits on eBay.

MarvelFanatic 07-11-2015 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608097)
Almost all of the legends figures have been easy to find, even the women. I'm sure spidergwen will not be hard to find but who knows.



I would call them a thief more than a scalper I bet. My TRU beefed up security on the legends with a lockbox and electronic device after getting ripped off so many times.

Yeah at my local comic shop where they tack on a extra 5-7 bucks for the figs....more if it's a " rare variant". I found a "Phasing Vision" from the old Toy-Biz ML line guy wanted 50 bucks for it...Toys r us is always picked clean by the time i get there though i did find Bastilla Shaun(Star Wars) on the classic card back one time...All i really want is Storm from the infinite wave does'nt have to be MIB....hell i'll even take it loose...

MarvelFanatic 07-11-2015 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todigandbedug (Post 608186)
Seriously? It's hard to imagine that. Do you have a picture? Crazy to think that Legends would 'cause such a problem versus other $20 price-point figures.



I agree that that's true of almost all the figures from the past two years, except for Magneto and Storm from the X-Men TRU Exclusive wave. Those two often go for triple digits on eBay.

Of course Magneto and Storm are going for triple digits...the sad part is people are willing to pay that amount

Trivial Psychic 07-11-2015 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarvelFanatic (Post 607754)
If my memory serves me correctly they where also using clamshell packaging back then too....

When I posted that, I was making reference to the fact that Black Widow at the time was extremely rare due to Hasbro's crappy swap figure distribution, and a lot of people were stealing both Widow and the BAF peice and generally being assholes. So, my thought was that they should do away with the swap figure process altogether, and just release all the figures at once, with duplicate BAF pieces for certain figures that might be more popular (which they more or less have done since.) That way, everyone got the figure and piece they wanted or needed.

Trivial Psychic 07-11-2015 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantomcrow (Post 608143)
I just saw 3 of that "Rare" Daredevil Marvel Legends in the past 3 days.

I think the problem is not so much scalping, that is just people trying to get some money.

And if I can add a thought to this...a large part of the scalping mentality comes from the "gotta have it and gotta have it NOW!!!" impulse. There is always going to be someone with a desire to get something and get it before everyone else. Look at what those Black Series stormtroopers were going for (although to be fair...they were auctions that started off at a penny.)

What's really terrible though, is when that mentality goes out to retailers. Certain sites (like Toy Wiz and Toysource for example) will often at times sell certain figures with incredible mark-ups, which puts ideas into the heads of others out there who happen to possess certain figures, causing them to do the same. And we, the consumer, possessed by our impulses, end up catering to them the same way.

Wise words (verbatim) from the Toy Hunter Jordan Hembrough himself..."Just because it's listed on ebay as being worth something, it doesn't mean that it is. It is only worth what you are willing to pay for it."

JamesBenjamin 07-12-2015 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 608407)
When I posted that, I was making reference to the fact that Black Widow at the time was extremely rare due to Hasbro's crappy swap figure distribution, and a lot of people were stealing both Widow and the BAF peice and generally being assholes. So, my thought was that they should do away with the swap figure process altogether, and just release all the figures at once, with duplicate BAF pieces for certain figures that might be more popular (which they more or less have done since.) That way, everyone got the figure and piece they wanted or needed.

Yeah, I'm really happy they killed the swap fig parts fiasco. Now they tend to do one wave containing everything for the BaF so if nothing else you can just order a case and be done with it.

Kernel 07-14-2015 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todigandbedug (Post 608186)
Seriously? It's hard to imagine that. Do you have a picture? Crazy to think that Legends would 'cause such a problem versus other $20 price-point figures.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psinfxhznu.jpg

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswcygvq3t.jpg

Not that hard to imagine. I have zero reason to make something like that up lol.
I also found out a werewolf was stealing the figures. I scoped him out and caught him and unmasked him and it was old man Johnson, the stores assistant manager! The manager was so grateful (and is a model on the side) and she offered to sleep with me but I declined cuz I'm married... Ok I made all of that up except for the security boxes/device. In all seriousness my area has been hit up really hard by a baf thief (TRU, wal Mart and Fred Meyers/Kroger grocer have a repeat offender or offenders).

deathofthelines 07-14-2015 07:19 PM

P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608950)
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psinfxhznu.jpg

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswcygvq3t.jpg

Not that hard to imagine. I have zero reason to make something like that up lol.
I also found out a werewolf was stealing the figures. I scoped him out and caught him and unmasked him and it was old man Johnson, the stores assistant manager! The manager was so grateful (and is a model on the side) and she offered to sleep with me but I declined cuz I'm married... Ok I made all of that up except for the security boxes/device. In all seriousness my area has been hit up really hard by a baf thief (TRU, wal Mart and Fred Meyers/Kroger grocer have a repeat offender or offenders).


At least ur tru cares enough to try. Read my previous post on how things are dealt with here in Florida. Honestly I love shopping in stores but going into local trus piss me off tremdously. Those spider wraps are useless in stores with garden shears I've seen big ticket items in Walmart cut free of them. And sadly I just found out the plastics are useless against screw drivers or people that buy or I guess steal the magnetic keys. The mag keys are only 30$ online.

todigandbedug 07-14-2015 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608950)
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psinfxhznu.jpg

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswcygvq3t.jpg

Not that hard to imagine. I have zero reason to make something like that up lol.
I also found out a werewolf was stealing the figures. I scoped him out and caught him and unmasked him and it was old man Johnson, the stores assistant manager! The manager was so grateful (and is a model on the side) and she offered to sleep with me but I declined cuz I'm married... Ok I made all of that up except for the security boxes/device. In all seriousness my area has been hit up really hard by a baf thief (TRU, wal Mart and Fred Meyers/Kroger grocer have a repeat offender or offenders).

Lol, sorry, man, didn't mean to come off as accusatory. I was just interested in seeing the set up. When you said lockbox, I was imagining the gated boxes/racks that some stores keep electronics or video games in. But still, those pictures just seem so bizarre to me. I used to work at Best Buy and we would reserve boxes like that for $60+ items, or items so small, you could just slip into your pocket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathofthelines (Post 608951)
P


At least ur tru cares enough to try. Read my previous post on how things are dealt with here in Florida. Honestly I love shopping in stores but going into local trus piss me off tremdously. Those spider wraps are useless in stores with garden shears I've seen big ticket items in Walmart cut free of them. And sadly I just found out the plastics are useless against screw drivers or people that buy or I guess steal the magnetic keys. The mag keys are only 30$ online.

From what I remember, if you cut the wires, the device's alarm will go off.

deathofthelines 07-14-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todigandbedug (Post 608971)
Lol, sorry, man, didn't mean to come off as accusatory. I was just interested in seeing the set up. When you said lockbox, I was imagining the gated boxes/racks that some stores keep electronics or video games in. But still, those pictures just seem so bizarre to me. I used to work at Best Buy and we would reserve boxes like that for $60+ items, or items so small, you could just slip into your pocket.



From what I remember, if you cut the wires, the device's alarm will go off.

Supposed to ring but apparently u can bypass it with knowledge or YouTube. Ugh I sound a bit like I'm condoning or trying to give info on how to do things.

Kernel 07-14-2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todigandbedug (Post 608971)
Lol, sorry, man, didn't mean to come off as accusatory. I was just interested in seeing the set up. When you said lockbox, I was imagining the gated boxes/racks that some stores keep electronics or video games in. But still, those pictures just seem so bizarre to me. I used to work at Best Buy and we would reserve boxes like that for $60+ items, or items so small, you could just slip into your pocket.



From what I remember, if you cut the wires, the device's alarm will go off.

No problem lol. You know it's funny cuz most of the legends are actually in that white lock box near the front. Only a few are on the floor and the ones that are have the extra security or are missing the baf piece.

Harbinger 07-21-2015 08:21 AM

Holy christ.....i cannot believe that shit!

Punisher 07-21-2015 09:25 AM

When the GOTG wave came out I was looking on eBay and saw Nova And Rocket Racoon for 100$, later that week I saw them both at my local Walmart for 20$ each ofcourse

Exodus 07-21-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarvelFanatic (Post 608203)
Of course Magneto and Storm are going for triple digits...the sad part is people are willing to pay that amount

Kind of surprised that Stryfe isn't worth that much considering that's the only Marvel figure we've gotten from him in any line.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 608950)
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psinfxhznu.jpg

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswcygvq3t.jpg

Not that hard to imagine. I have zero reason to make something like that up lol.
I also found out a werewolf was stealing the figures. I scoped him out and caught him and unmasked him and it was old man Johnson, the stores assistant manager! The manager was so grateful (and is a model on the side) and she offered to sleep with me but I declined cuz I'm married... Ok I made all of that up except for the security boxes/device. In all seriousness my area has been hit up really hard by a baf thief (TRU, wal Mart and Fred Meyers/Kroger grocer have a repeat offender or offenders).

Wow that's crazy in seattle too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathofthelines (Post 608951)
P


At least ur tru cares enough to try. Read my previous post on how things are dealt with here in Florida. Honestly I love shopping in stores but going into local trus piss me off tremdously. Those spider wraps are useless in stores with garden shears I've seen big ticket items in Walmart cut free of them. And sadly I just found out the plastics are useless against screw drivers or people that buy or I guess steal the magnetic keys. The mag keys are only 30$ online.

Wow really, but don't they have camera's in the stores? So would take time to open them up even with a mag key...

toy ninja 07-21-2015 12:34 PM

one of my local walgreens had them locked up in a glass cabinet behind the counter.

deathofthelines 07-21-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 609956)
Kind of surprised that Stryfe isn't worth that much considering that's the only Marvel figure we've gotten from him in any line.
Wow that's crazy in seattle too...


Wow really, but don't they have camera's in the stores? So would take time to open them up even with a mag key...

I don't know about other locations but there are 3 cameras in my local tru 2 in electronics and 1 at the main customer service desk literally no more in the store not even fakes ones. Theres an old security booth u can see a computer with the three cameras on its screen but no one is ever in there so I'm beginning to think its just a free for all there

kylactus 07-21-2015 05:52 PM

Damn dude are you casing the place or what!

deathofthelines 07-21-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 610033)
Damn dude are you casing the place or what!

I've shopped at this location since 92 I probly know the store better than the store manager. There's not single worker that's been there more than 5 years. If I could move endcaps and shelving I could recreation the look of the store back in 97. Ive seen every hiding place collectors hide items for later purchase. Hell the ps2 I owned was the floor model people played demoes with for 3 years. It's basically a home way from home for me my happy place that is actually real.

Kamatayan 07-24-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathofthelines (Post 610035)
I've shopped at this location since 92 I probly know the store better than the store manager. There's not single worker that's been there more than 5 years. If I could move endcaps and shelving I could recreation the look of the store back in 97. Ive seen every hiding place collectors hide items for later purchase. Hell the ps2 I owned was the floor model people played demoes with for 3 years. It's basically a home way from home for me my happy place that is actually real.

That is so cool! Are you friends with any of the people who work there? I'm assuming the answer is yes since the PS2 you owned was the floor model.

deathofthelines 07-24-2015 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 610503)
That is so cool! Are you friends with any of the people who work there? I'm assuming the answer is yes since the PS2 you owned was the floor model.

I dated one of the girls there for about 6 months last year. And alot of the guys are legends collectors. I've gone in and have had convos completely forgetting what I was buying.

Kamatayan 07-28-2015 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathofthelines (Post 610523)
I dated one of the girls there for about 6 months last year. And alot of the guys are legends collectors. I've gone in and have had convos completely forgetting what I was buying.

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