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VashTS 05-29-2014 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 529278)
Licensing doesn't work that way. Hasbro still has to pay Marvel for making toys based on Marvel's characters whether they were in a movie or not.

Movie toys would just mean licensing fees that Hasbro might have to pay to the movie studio and to the actors (depending on the contracts involved) in addition to what they already pay Marvel.



As if they owe you one. :p



I imagine that SDCC will probably answer that question.

I understand the sarcasm in as if they owe me an explanation, it would be nice if certain things are explained.
As a teacher i tell kids the worse things are never to ask questions. if we buy something we need to know the 5w s and h.

If people care, they ask questions, the worse answer from Hasbro that they can give is because we feel like not doing it.

Again, i loved DOFP, and just want someone at SDCC or who had access to Hasbro to ask questions on behalf of the fans, but important hard news type questions.

Byrnes 05-29-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 529574)
I understand the sarcasm in as if they owe me an explanation, it would be nice if certain things are explained.
As a teacher i tell kids the worse things are never to ask questions. if we buy something we need to know the 5w s and h.

If people care, they ask questions, the worse answer from Hasbro that they can give is because we feel like not doing it.

Again, i loved DOFP, and just want someone at SDCC or who had access to Hasbro to ask questions on behalf of the fans, but important hard news type questions.

If you saw the post a page or two back I posted someone at ToyFair asked the Marvel Legends director at Hasbro why aren't we getting DOFP figures and he said "we never said we weren't" or something to that effect, so maybe they are just waiting to announce something at SDCC. Toy companies don't like to give out to much information all at one time. Maybe they just wanted to see how the movie did before they release any info? I bet we will get a answer at SDCC one way or another. Maybe this TRU/X-Men line is just a warm up. *Crossing fingers and hoping* That cancelled Rouge would be money in a DOFP line.

Exodus 05-29-2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cidman911 (Post 529413)
Scalpers are furiously buying up those Nova's. I know it.

Get them while you can so you don't bitch later that they're $50 on eBay.

Looks like TRU sold out already...

warmachine6 05-29-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 529609)
Looks like TRU sold out already...

of what the new x-men wave haven't hit stores here in the UK might sell that magneto though cause i have one and i just wanna build jubilee

Exodus 05-29-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 529617)
of what the new x-men wave haven't hit stores here in the UK might sell that magneto though cause i have one and i just wanna build jubilee

Nova, was commenting on the previous above^ X-Men wave hasn't hit yet, but hopefully soon and hopefully on TRU.com

VashTS 05-29-2014 11:18 AM

Maybe i missed it tru.com had the x men figures for sale? I checked around 11am, and they had nothing.

cidman911 05-29-2014 12:07 PM

Nova and Rocket sold out on TRU.

Same as Amazon.

Nova & Rocket are definitely the ones scalpers are after.

cidman911 05-29-2014 12:09 PM

If you want another source for Nova's PM me.

I know a few more that still have them but I think it's 1 per customer now.

cidman911 05-29-2014 01:00 PM

I bought a bootleg Doop from the Series 6 Deadpool for 11 bucks. LOL
http://imageshack.com/a/img842/3756/w1mth.jpg

And got these from a local. Now I regret selling my Hydra Agents. But for every one that I cut from my collection...2 more shall take it's place.

Hail Hydra!
http://imageshack.com/a/img835/6407/k6um6.jpg

Serious Lee 05-29-2014 01:08 PM

I'm still trying to find that von Strucker at a decent price, I have a feeling we'll see him in Cap Infinite 3 wave, but it won't be the same comic style version

ultraman zoffy 05-29-2014 03:03 PM

I'm pretty sure there are a good number of non-scalpers probably picking up Nova and Rocket as well... it shouldn't be an automatic assumption that a particular figure is selling well only because scalpers are swooping on it.

Serious Lee 05-29-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy (Post 529714)
I'm pretty sure there are a good number of non-scalpers probably picking up Nova and Rocket as well... it shouldn't be an automatic assumption that a particular figure is selling well only because scalpers are swooping on it.

I agree, and I also think that this may not be as popular a line with all ML buyers, but better to say the 'regular' buyers. Some collectors don't agree with movie versions etc, and won't buy these.

I hope scalper nation gets hit hard by this wave of figures, and maybe forces some of them to rethink 'their' hobby.

VashTS 05-29-2014 04:06 PM

On ebay nothing but scalpers offer the Hydra and Aim soldiers....still sad I am missing Aim

warmachine6 05-29-2014 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 529727)
On ebay nothing but scalpers offer the Hydra and Aim soldiers....still sad I am missing Aim

i know the feels , trying to get my hands on Hydra ugh but nothing not even on ebay for UK :C

collectvintage 05-30-2014 08:21 AM

how does hasbro justify making an entire line of GotG figures, but none for X-Men: DOFP?

seriously though... you have Titan heroes, MU repacks in MI, 6" legends, 2.5" two packs, and spaceships all for a movie that is a huge gamble

VashTS 05-30-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collectvintage (Post 529931)
how does hasbro justify making an entire line of GotG figures, but none for X-Men: DOFP?

seriously though... you have Titan heroes, MU repacks in MI, 6" legends, 2.5" two packs, and spaceships all for a movie that is a huge gamble

That's a great point, GOTG over X men? Logic makes no sense on Hasbro s end.

Iceman 05-30-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collectvintage (Post 529931)
how does hasbro justify making an entire line of GotG figures, but none for X-Men: DOFP?

seriously though... you have Titan heroes, MU repacks in MI, 6" legends, 2.5" two packs, and spaceships all for a movie that is a huge gamble

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 529955)
That's a great point, GOTG over X men? Logic makes no sense on Hasbro s end.

Except that GotG is a Marvel studios production so they don't have to share with Fox.

kylactus 05-30-2014 11:37 AM

I don't know about GOTG being all that risky of an investment. It's another Avengers tie in, it has all of the elements of another fairly popular franchise (Star Wars) that did pretty well in the toy market for about four decades! and as far as there relative obscurity, how popular was Iron Man to the general public before the first movie? or thor or Cap for that matter? A good movie goes a long way to establish a brand following.

Serious Lee 05-30-2014 02:46 PM

I'm sure the movie will be great, and popular. Heck, it may even get some people to buy the ML, MI figs and some spaceships. However, the quality of the product will determine if collectors keep these, or turn them over after they build Groot.

I'm not discounting movie fans who also are movie figure fans, more power to them I say, and it would seem that there will be movie figures in most of the waves upcoming. Where I'm not personally a fan of most movie figs, there are some that fit and work well with any comic versions, like the new Black Widow for example.

What are the chances of getting a comic version of Gamora? Slim. So, I'll happily add her into the shelf space/ space shelf.

To your point Kylactus, Ironman, Cap, Hulk, Spidey etc, have had decades of fans, from comics, toys and movies, but the GotG crew haven't had the same longevity in the hearts and minds of toy buyers. The reason all the comic book movies are popular today is that they have been in theaters for the last 10 years or so, and this span of time has brought teenagers through 40-50 year olds to spend their money at the same time. They've found the guys(mostly), who have the 'disposable' income at the right time and they're going to take advantage of it. In a way, the height of comic book popularity, without having to read.

I hope this doesn't sound like I don't want GotG to do well at retail, far from it. The better the ML line sells, the more likely chance the line will be around for us to collect. I'm buying the set, and would buy variants if they exist(ed), but until they've been on store shelves for a few weeks/ months it will be hard to tell. Ebay will be the telltale sign I think, once collectors and new fans have had the figs in hand and decide whether or not they like them, or will the market be flooded with $7 movie Drax etc.

SoBeeIt 05-30-2014 04:08 PM

Nova...What the $&@#!
 
Peoples posts on this site which helped me to discover that the new ML GOTG wave was out...especially been wanting that Nova...so jumped on ebay ASAP and found one for about 40...not taking any chances...not getting fooled, again (Where in the heck are the AIM and Hydra figures?)...not going back and again to TRU, LCBS, Wal-Mart or Target hoping to find the figures that are short-packed...to many hoops for me to jump through as a collector.

SoBeeIt 05-30-2014 04:19 PM

Thanks Peoples...

VashTS 05-30-2014 04:54 PM

Honestly I have rules about legends, I never go over $25 for legends. The exceptions being a BAF. $40 for a Nova is waaaayyyy....too much.

I agree on Aim and Hydra, where are they....super hard to get becasue of scalpers mostly. Again I have a price point that I stick to. I am okay but ain't that rich. If legends ever has a SRP of $25 that's it sorry Hasbro, and Marvel, I'll save up for the 3D printing device and one day when it's time I'll buy one.

But I will NEVER pay 40 for a figure. I still have no Crossbones(Made a custom), and a much as I love Legends, I love not being broke more.

warmachine6 05-30-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBeeIt (Post 530113)
Thanks Peoples...

I guess your new ... I'm not sure if this is like a fed-up "Thanks" but please be patient and treat these like emails check every like 2-3 days not an instant messenger thing anyway [my interpretation, sorry If I'm wrong]

Welcome to the Ark

I believe the Hydra and Aim soldiers are gone and put away so someone can either add to there collection or sell them like next year at a silly price just keep hunting on ebay etc one day you'll find at a reasonable price for you

Serious Lee 05-30-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBeeIt (Post 530109)
Peoples posts on this site which helped me to discover that the new ML GOTG wave was out...especially been wanting that Nova...so jumped on ebay ASAP and found one for about 40...not taking any chances...not getting fooled, again (Where in the heck are the AIM and Hydra figures?)...not going back and again to TRU, LCBS, Wal-Mart or Target hoping to find the figures that are short-packed...to many hoops for me to jump through as a collector.

I know what you mean about trying to find figures like the new Hydra goon, but I think Hasbro will figure this out and release more 2 packs one day, including AIM and other henchman types. That's just a 'gut' feeling

kylactus 05-30-2014 05:00 PM

I think that the "henchmen" being hard to find is partly due to army builders, at least as much as scalpers.


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