Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 727611)

And Oracle, Manta, Smasher and Starbolt! Aside from Oracle and Gladiator I think Manta has always been my favorite, I just love her design.

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 727619)

Politics have nothing to do with this. That's a whack and common 2017 excuse. How about instead of putting people down because they don't know about something, you help build them up by pointing them in the right direction. We're all here because we have a common hobby. Marvel Legends and other figures are what we love and spend our money on. No one comes here to be put down because they don't know the 100 percent full details of an Arc. Help them out and maybe they just might see things a little different.

Originally Posted by ariellagunas (Post 727645)

I'm surprised Marvel have not pushed the Starjammers more, specially after the Guardians success.

Originally Posted by Parademon1 (Post 727618)

I'm a NYer, we're blunt. That's how we roll. No lefty snowflake here.

Originally Posted by Tomax (Post 727641)

went to TRU yesterdy and saw Blade but i dont want him, i prefer the movie version.

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 727619)

Politics have nothing to do with this. That's a whack and common 2017 excuse. How about instead of putting people down because they don't know about something, you help build them up by pointing them in the right direction. We're all here because we have a common hobby. Marvel Legends and other figures are what we love and spend our money on. No one comes here to be put down because they don't know the 100 percent full details of an Arc. Help them out and maybe they just might see things a little different.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 727651)

Ch'od out of Abomination, it's too easy.

Originally Posted by ariellagunas (Post 727645)

Yeah, those ones stick out the most. Somehow I prefer the ones that are not so obviously from the Legion, like the aforementioned Hussar and Warstar. But I'll be lying if I wouldn't buy an Oracle or Manta. Also the Avengers had a female Smasher, and Logan dressed as Fang, so those might get a chance someday.

I'm surprised Marvel have not pushed the Starjammers more, specially after the Guardians success.

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 727665)

Historically I think Marvel's had a tough time with books centered around alien protagonists since one of Marvel's hallmarks is having supposedly relatable characters (whether or not that's true in practice is YMMV of course).

Even the Guardians had a few human viewpoint characters, and their mainstream success is a very recent development.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 727651)

Ch'od out of Abomination, it's too easy.

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 727664)

Oh that's an easy one! For all that they have appeared in other corners of the marvel universe over the years, the Shi'ar are still primarily in the realm of X-men story lines (much like the Skrull are F4 and Kree are Avengers.) Up until recently over the last five years Marvel has actively avoiding pushing anything X-related. I'm sure they'd deny it but it's due to the antagonism over film rights. Which is why so many things have changed in origin retcons. Except Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are still Magneto's children andiwonthearotherwise. :D

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 727668)

They're now the kids of........THE WHIZZER HAHAHAHAHAH! ( couldn't resist saying whizzer ;) )

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 727670)

Lies! LOL

Seriously I'm really fine with a lot of retcons but that one was just....really irritating considering the obvious reason for it was film rights so they wouldn't have to contend with the whole mutant issue. Plus how it just makes so many back stories make no sense, more so with Quicksilver than Wanda even.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 727674)

Personally, I believe it has everything to do with strength of story-telling and character development, as it pertains to GotG's success, despite the title's other worldly cast of characters. In my opinion, it's not about industry trends or fan temperaments as it regards how much they identify (or don't, for that matter) with 'human' subjects.

There's a history of anthropomorphized characters finding success within Marvel's stable and beyond. Howard the Duck and Rocket Raccoon found fans, and while they don't represent the traditional 'alien' (especially in the case of Howard), corollaries can be easily made. Marvel's Epic line had popular titles in the 80's with both Dreadstar and Alien Legion. While Vanth, the main character of Dreadstar, was indeed a human (as was Willow), the comic's most well regarded personalities were Oedi (of an engineered cat-person race) and Skeevo (a purple hued alien) - let's not overlook my personal favorite, the one, the only, Syzygy Darlock - who was basically a zombie wizard...the things I like make most people uncomfortable. Torie, Alien Legion's singular 'true' human character, wasn't remotely the focus of the title's narrative. Jugger Grimrod (a Wolverine-like character) and Major Sarigar (the unit's badass snake-man leader) were firmly the fan-favorites of the book.

Outside of Marvel: TMNT, Bucky O'Hare, Usagi Yojimbo, Savage Dragon, Pitt, and The Maxx are all non-traditional successes. Again not all are 'aliens,' but ostensibly, they may as well be. Not to mention, the only comic to ever win a Pulitzer was Maus - plenty of people were able to relate to yet one more well written anthropomorphized protagonist. Additionally, Crossgen's Negation remains one of the best space-epics and overall comic runs I've read in years. While Obregon Kaine (one of my all-time favorite comic leaders) was a human, the cast was a treasure trove of alien races and cultures...each equally as fascinating as the one previously introduced.

Compelling narratives are what allow readers to relate to characters. Not their aesthetic features, race, gender, or sexual orientation. Alien Legion captured the grit, peril, triumph of victory, and deep loss of war (much like Negation) all of which serving to assist readers to find the 'threads of humanity' in non-human player. As long as a writers commit in earnest to their task of breathing life into a title, almost anything can garner critical acclaim and fan-celebration.

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 727676)

Aaaannnndddd.... Lets not forget that Kirk tapped every kinda alien there was.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 727677)

Oh, without a doubt....Kirk's the man! Han's a ham! ;)

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 727678)

Well technically han would be a shishkabob now ;) haha

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 727679)

HahahA! Yeah! Han Solo's dead! So cool! LOL

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 727680)

He CCCCCCOOOUUULLLLDD Just be a clone and the real han changed his face and is still alive. ;)

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 727681)

Haha! Yeah, maybe...but he's likely dead as he deserves to be! HAHAHa!

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 727682)

Oh no you didn't!! :p;)