Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 739398)

I think SP//dr will be the first proper/large size female BAF? So that's a nice first for this. I'm not a big Spider-man fan but I enjoyed Spider-verse so I'm interested in this.
The backlash against Gwenpool confuses me. One of the common complaints I see from Marvel fans is that they don't do anything new, then when they do those same people usually complain about it. Gwenpool is a smart, fun comic and it's a shame it's ending after two years. The art is amazing too, especially when Gurihiru is doing it.

Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 739364)

Spidey Noir is going to be a hard find due to customizers. Those arms and jacket are a hot commodity for custom Gambits, Red Skull, etc

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 739269)

To me I can see that entire spidey wave pegwarming... reminds me of the ant-man wave in which the Baf was the best figure.

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 739400)

Gwenpool does not belong in a Spider-Man wave. She belongs in teh Deadpool wave. She is a slot that could have gone to a real Spider-Man character. Someone who is actually important to the Marvel universe. Someone that matters.

Not some dumbass bimbo who thought it would be cool to cosplay in a Dollar Tree costume like Deadpool.

Also, her comic has been canceled, which shows how worthless of a gimmick she is.

Back to what matters, real Spider-Man characters. Hell, Spider-Ham would have been a superior choice to her.

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 739409)

Is there any reason people thought Kingpin was gonna be the BAF? He’s not exactly a character who can’t be done single carded.

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 739409)

Is there any reason people thought Kingpin was gonna be the BAF? He’s not exactly a character who can’t be done single carded.

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 739405)

I'm really glad people like you don't run Marvel or Hasbro. What bland comics and action figures we would have.

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 739415)

Wish fulfillment I think. I certainly was hoping we'd get a comic KP and he would be a BAF. I say that because I can't imagine the mold done for him could be reused that often. A few examples yes but it would not be a standard mold, thus BAF would be a better choice.

As far as the actual rumored/non-confirmed BAF, I have no idea who the hell that is, but that's okay. I'm sure there are some that want it, so I am glad they're getting it. It's an easy pass for me - also very glad then that it's not like a Build A Tentacle for classic Dr. Ock or something, as a classic comic Dr Ock, either in white or green/purple, would be a definite buy for me.

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 739419)

That’s true, but I think a large buck could have done reuse potential, especially for some other portly marvel characters.

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 739398)

I think SP//dr will be the first proper/large size female BAF? So that's a nice first for this. I'm not a big Spider-man fan but I enjoyed Spider-verse so I'm interested in this.
The backlash against Gwenpool confuses me. One of the common complaints I see from Marvel fans is that they don't do anything new, then when they do those same people usually complain about it. Gwenpool is a smart, fun comic and it's a shame it's ending after two years. The art is amazing too, especially when Gurihiru is doing it.

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 739429)

Gwenpool was actually decent but no one wanted to buy it. It was made to satisfy a certain demographic who only complains and never buys. Gwenpool comic was really made for one reason, same with America, to get awards and get mentions on certain websites that give awards.

In the end, the shift is starting and that era in comics is coming to an end. Marvel needs to hire based talent and less on ideology.

Not my cup of tea, and will not purchase the figure like a majority of collectors.

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 739431)

I really have no problem with new stuff. Bucky/Sam as Cap? Fine! Ms. Marvel being a teen and Pakistani? A-OK! Several Spider-Men running around the 616? groovy! But Gwenpool will always be a cute variant cover idea that spiraled outta control. I'm sure the comic is great, but it just radiates a vibe of "silly and quirky and 4th-wall shattering" that I detest, just like Deadpool!

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 739432)

This! When characters that are basically created as parody characters become popular it sort of makes a joke of the entire medium. I can only take so much silliness in my comics. It's kind of why I don't like Squirrel Girl, Gwenpool, and to an extent Deadpool as well, though he's not nearly as bad.

Mind you, that's just my opinion. If someone likes the characters that doesn't hurt or effect me at all, aside from the character getting made instead of possibly other characters I'd rather see. But I don't want to "have it all" because that's way too much money to spend, and I'm not entitled to feel like Hasbro should be focusing only on characters I want to see made. I wouldn't complain of course but it's not going to happen.

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 739400)

Gwenpool does not belong in a Spider-Man wave. She belongs in teh Deadpool wave. She is a slot that could have gone to a real Spider-Man character. Someone who is actually important to the Marvel universe. Someone that matters.

Not some dumbass bimbo who thought it would be cool to cosplay in a Dollar Tree costume like Deadpool.

Also, her comic has been canceled, which shows how worthless of a gimmick she is.

Back to what matters, real Spider-Man characters. Hell, Spider-Ham would have been a superior choice to her.

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 739405)

I'm really glad people like you don't run Marvel or Hasbro. What bland comics and action figures we would have.

Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 739443)

I think a lot of the complaining, as evidenced by some people in this thread, comes from people not even knowing anything about Gwenpool before they start lighting into the concept. Yes, it spun out of a variant cover thing, that's true. But that seems to be the only thing people who haven't even given the series a shot know about her.

- She's not an alternate Gwen Stacy, despite her design's origins being from the 'Gwen version of heroes' cover event Marvel did. Her real name is Gwen Poole.
- Hence, she's also not connected to Deadpool (hell, she mentions that she doesn't even like his brand of humor all that much) - the name and costume come from her getting a costume made on the quick by a tailor who thought her name (Gwen Poole) was actually her superhero name (Gwenpool), and given all the guys running around in Deadpool costumes at the time (the Mercs for Money), just rolled with it.
- Her fourth-wall humor, likewise, isn't the same as Deadpool's, because hers is intentionally meta, due to being a comics reader from (an approximation of) the real world. It's a lot less "hey, this reminds me of issue number 77, remember that?" and a lot more "because of how comics works, I can actually call out this backgrounder's name and it'll give them a certain amount of protection from the events currently happening because now they're a recurring character". So a hell of a lot less 'let's be wacky because we're Deadpool!'

I'm sad that the book is ending (yes, ending - unlike the other books coming to a close soon, the writer hasn't actually said the book was cancelled, AND it's closing out on #25, a milestone issue, not some random mid-run issue, not to mention that it's actually getting an ending, for pete's sake), but it was an actually fun comic, which is in such short supply in a comic industry. It was parody like "The Orville" is a parody of Star Trek (IE in a way that's more loving than lambasting), had serious stakes, character growth, a relatable protagonist when you actually read about her backstory and motivations, and... Jesus Christ, it had Batroc as a regular supporting character. A longtime jobber actually getting some spotlight outside of a single Captain America story! How about that, huh?

I don't think Gwenpool failed, tbh, because it made it to the two-year mark, which a lot of comics right now, especially Marvel books and definitely new-character Marvel books, can't seem to get to. Which means it found an audience who loved it long enough for Marvel to give it a sendoff, rather than a mid-run cut. We're losing a number of books with more established titles and characters, some before they even hit their first/second year mark, but Gwenpool did something right enough for Marvel to keep it around until a proper finishing point. So that's gotta count for a lot.



W-o-o-o-w. Lotta ignorance of the character here. I'm not going to try and sway you, since your mind is already made up, but I am gonna nitpick one point here.

Gwen has as much reason to be in a Spider-Man wave as Misty Knight, or White Tiger, Daredevil, Moon Knight, or Ghost Rider. Or Ares in a Thor wave. or Death's Head II in a GotG wave (Hell, more reason than that last one). She's interacted with Deadpool on one, maybe two instances, while she's had a number of stories with Miles Morales, both in her own book and over in Champions (maybe more, I don't know) Heck, the lines seem to be tailored to certain characters - Spider-Man waves often also include street-level and non-Avengers characters (though now that we're getting some Defenders/Marvel Knights waves, that may change a bit), GotG waves often include general cosmic characters, X-Men waves can include pretty much anyone under the mighty mutant umbrella (unless they're anchored to a different hero/title), etc etc.

And worthless gimmick, huh? She got a figure, and Spider-Ham is still in action figure limbo. Go figure. But hey, either way, here's an idea - we know you don't like a lot of the newer characters. Like, we all know. So just avoid them, and avoid the conversations about them, and it'll relieve everyone of a ton of stress, huh? It's like I already posted, "It's okay to not like things, just don't be a dick about it."

And please, don't use the word bimbo. It's just not cool. It's really not. Grow up a little.



Agreed. It would be like the old Mego lines, except less fun.