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hasbroherofan 01-15-2018 05:57 PM

Probably the tooling budget for the wave. Movie figures are always more expensive to make due to the (usually) lack of recycled parts. This wave had three movie figures plus a BAF and an all new Iron Man that didn't reuse parts. They probably didn't have the cash left over for another movie figure at that point.

Jeddostotle7 01-15-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 740398)
Probably the tooling budget for the wave. Movie figures are always more expensive to make due to the (usually) lack of recycled parts. This wave had three movie figures plus a BAF and an all new Iron Man that didn't reuse parts. They probably didn't have the cash left over for another movie figure at that point.

Plus, the Namor had an entirely new torso, and even Black Bolt, the most reuse-heavy figure in the wave, had not one, but 2 new heads (the neutral face head is actually different from the one in the SDCC 2014 Thanos Imperative boxset).

VashTS 01-15-2018 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake5289 (Post 740386)
The fact that they were clearly going for a similar vibe as the old TV show is what made it so good.


Yeah I'm okay with this. Nobody's done the "Don't make me angry..." line better than Bixby.

One of the things that is wrong with modern movies is the acting. Actors used to be trained for plays. Bixby had a Shakespearean tone...his voice could boom and his face showed ware and tear. The Shakespearean actors are mostly gone.

I think the CGI HUlks have all looked bad to be honest. Nothing replaced the believability of Bixby/Ferrigno in my eyes. I find Mark Ruffalo to be a very sub-par Banner. I think Eric Bana and Ed Norton were better, especially the latter.

In today's movies, the action is forgettable, everything has a too close up shot(s), and are poorly framed. Most of the action is hard to follow and disjointed.

People remember action scenes of real actors, because it looks better and better paced. Many of the wire-work stuff looks fantastic for those into Asian cinema. The overused, shoddy CGI has killed action scenes....they all blend in with one another. The best MCU fight scenes were in the Winter Soldier for a reason.

Trivial Psychic 01-15-2018 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 740396)
To be entirely fair, Klaw also has a little bit of paint on the lower torso and thighs ;)

Haha...true...I forgot about that lacey pair of skivvies he's wearing from Victoria's Secret.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilMonkeyPope (Post 740397)
But if they made a digital scan of MCU Shuri for the basic line, why not use it for ML too? Otherwise wouldn't it be more economical to just make a basic Nakia?

There was a new head sculpt for MCU Shuri, but the actual face screening wasn't used for it, as it featured basic paint apps. I'm not certain of the cost of doing the newer digitized process, but if it's anything like what it costs for custom projects (Shapeways or any of these newer 3D printing sites where you can get your own face printed for example...) it really can't be cost effective. Shuri just got the short end of the stick.

That's not to say we won't get an MCU Shuri down the road. For all we know, she has a bigger role during Infinity War or somewhere else down the road, and might receive a true MCU figure then. Or not...time will tell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 740404)
In today's movies, the action is forgettable, everything has a too close up shot(s), and are poorly framed. Most of the action is hard to follow and disjointed.

People remember action scenes of real actors, because it looks better and better paced. Many of the wire-work stuff looks fantastic for those into Asian cinema. The overused, shoddy CGI has killed action scenes....they all blend in with one another. The best MCU fight scenes were in the Winter Soldier for a reason.

I agree with this statement 110 percent. The overuse of CGI is really taken a toll on me with the MCU, and is part of the reason I've grown bored with it. There is a reason that the fight scenes in Daredevil, and in the Winter Soldier look so damn good when compared to the rest of the MCU, and it's because the films used a lot of physical work from actors, camera and stuntmen, as opposed to relying on a CG cartoon character leaping around everywhere while being shot upside down in an attempt to fool the audience that what really isn't there actually is...

I understand CGI's role in these films, as it can help to make something from the panels carry on in three dimensions, but sometimes it's a just a bit too much, and it sucks the physical life out of a scene. As cool as Spidey looks leaping around in the more current films, no fight scene he has been in has ever been as visceral, violent, or just plain ole good looking as his final battle with the Green Goblin in Spider-Man 1, and that was with Defoe looking like he stepped out of an episode of Super Sentai. An even better example would be the Matrix. The final battle between Neo and Smith in the first film was absolutely amazing, and still looks great, while the battle between Neo and a hundred copies of Smith in Reloaded looks like a green screened cartoon that quickly zaps you out of the action.

If some of the CG stuff was scaled back a bit, Marvel films might be able to draw me back to the theater to watch and support them when they come out, instead of waiting 6 months later for when they pop up on Netflix or Redbox.

Bo Ttef 01-15-2018 09:38 PM

Speaking of ML Shuri... added some colors and I'm mostly happy with how she's coming along... not crazy about her arm bracelets so may rebuild those to be more movie like-

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4670/...24bc5857_k.jpgMarvel Legends style Shuri WIP2 by lowanbing, on Flickr

Veronica Mars 01-16-2018 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jmurray90720 (Post 740316)
Eric Bana Hulk was the WOOOOORRRSSSSSSTTTT.

But he's so so pretty

Black Arbor 01-16-2018 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 740416)
But he's so so pretty

And in a roundabout way that Ang Lee Hulk movie brought us the Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction video game!

hasbroherofan 01-16-2018 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Ttef (Post 740409)
Speaking of ML Shuri... added some colors and I'm mostly happy with how she's coming along... not crazy about her arm bracelets so may rebuild those to be more movie like-

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4670/...24bc5857_k.jpgMarvel Legends style Shuri WIP2 by lowanbing, on Flickr

Great work!

donmeca2020 01-16-2018 06:57 AM

Went to my local TRU yesterday.while i wanted to search around abit myself,i really wanted to find a learning toy for 6 month old son. Anywho long story short, i found a toy i thought was acceptable for him.

However to my disappointment, nothing that was actually stocked on the shelves had correct pricing, the place had nothing new, the shelves were less then freshly stocked for a little bit prior to 12 in the afternoon. Mind all of you they open at 10am. The floors were filled with garbage from boxes, papers, clumps of dirt etc. Oh and not an employee to be found anywhere to ask a question if needed. So of course no Shuri/Klaw 2 pack.... and they wonder why they had to claim bankruptcy and shutting their stores down nationwide.

Sorry for the long rant... just was very disappointed. With TRU

Captain Nash 01-16-2018 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donmeca2020 (Post 740427)
Went to my local TRU yesterday.while i wanted to search around abit myself,i really wanted to find a learning toy for 6 month old son. Anywho long story short, i found a toy i thought was acceptable for him.

However to my disappointment, nothing that was actually stocked on the shelves had correct pricing, the place had nothing new, the shelves were less then freshly stocked for a little bit prior to 12 in the afternoon. Mind all of you they open at 10am. The floors were filled with garbage from boxes, papers, clumps of dirt etc. Oh and not an employee to be found anywhere to ask a question if needed. So of course no Shuri/Klaw 2 pack.... and they wonder why they had to claim bankruptcy and shutting their stores down nationwide.

Sorry for the long rant... just was very disappointed. With TRU

QFT. I know some areas TRU has got to be better but it sounds like yours is on par with mine. Just....abysmal. Every single exclusive I got from them I got online, though of course much later I finally saw in store. In some cases much much later Finally saw Groot in October o_O. I am hating that the two pack isn't available for shipping nor is it on Amazon at any price/any seller.

Harbinger 01-16-2018 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donmeca2020 (Post 740427)
Went to my local TRU yesterday.while i wanted to search around abit myself,i really wanted to find a learning toy for 6 month old son. Anywho long story short, i found a toy i thought was acceptable for him.

However to my disappointment, nothing that was actually stocked on the shelves had correct pricing, the place had nothing new, the shelves were less then freshly stocked for a little bit prior to 12 in the afternoon. Mind all of you they open at 10am. The floors were filled with garbage from boxes, papers, clumps of dirt etc. Oh and not an employee to be found anywhere to ask a question if needed. So of course no Shuri/Klaw 2 pack.... and they wonder why they had to claim bankruptcy and shutting their stores down nationwide.

Sorry for the long rant... just was very disappointed. With TRU

Tru is to toys what uwe boll films are to the academy awards. Mine has nothing as well. Christ i cant even find a skullitron from the last tf film. And my local failmarts have absolutely nothing stocked in their boys toys aisle. Hell even the lego aisles are utterly bare.

Dr Kain 01-16-2018 07:36 AM

That sounds like every TRU ever right after Xmas until the end of Jan. Even back in the 90s the TRU employees told us they wouldn't really get any new product in until the third week of the month.

shortysben 01-16-2018 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donmeca2020 (Post 740427)
Went to my local TRU yesterday.while i wanted to search around abit myself,i really wanted to find a learning toy for 6 month old son. Anywho long story short, i found a toy i thought was acceptable for him.

However to my disappointment, nothing that was actually stocked on the shelves had correct pricing, the place had nothing new, the shelves were less then freshly stocked for a little bit prior to 12 in the afternoon. Mind all of you they open at 10am. The floors were filled with garbage from boxes, papers, clumps of dirt etc. Oh and not an employee to be found anywhere to ask a question if needed. So of course no Shuri/Klaw 2 pack.... and they wonder why they had to claim bankruptcy and shutting their stores down nationwide.

Sorry for the long rant... just was very disappointed. With TRU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 740428)
QFT. I know some areas TRU has got to be better but it sounds like yours is on par with mine. Just....abysmal. Every single exclusive I got from them I got online, though of course much later I finally saw in store. In some cases much much later Finally saw Groot in October o_O. I am hating that the two pack isn't available for shipping nor is it on Amazon at any price/any seller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 740431)
Tru is to toys what uwe boll films are to the academy awards. Mine has nothing as well. Christ i cant even find a skullitron from the last tf film. And my local failmarts have absolutely nothing stocked in their boys toys aisle. Hell even the lego aisles are utterly bare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 740432)
That sounds like every TRU ever right after Xmas until the end of Jan. Even back in the 90s the TRU employees told us they wouldn't really get any new product in until the third week of the month.

All correct. Mine TRU never has the exclusives (or anything new for that matter), always has pegs and pegs of older Dormammu Wave - and the Star Wars Black figures consist of 20x Jynn Erso, and 20x Cassian Andor...SMH

Phantomcrow 01-16-2018 09:59 AM

The toy department at Wal Mart gets reset in January, different weeks depending on the store (my store should be this week), and until that reset happens (almost) all the new toys and figures are held in back. That is why the shelves are looking so bare at a lot of Marts. They have to go through and get all the stuff that is not on the new mod, usually a lot of Lego and at my store all the Thor and Guardians Legends, and put them on clearance before they can change all the layouts, tags, and what not before the new stuff can go out. Target does the same thing but since most Targets are smaller toy sections they can get it done a lot faster.

donmeca2020 01-16-2018 10:26 AM

what i saw they had an abundant amount of which i nearly fell over because its considered old at this point. was that vision,kate bishop, and whoever else 3 pack.... but besides that. how can a store be so sh!tty ??? garbage on the floors, close to empty pegs during the early afternoon, nothing is in the right place with the correct pricing and even the employees are nowhere to be found. hell the cashier didnt even want to do jack i can tell, and they literally just opened 1 hour and half or so before that.

this is the main reason i stay away from TRU stores here in south florida they are just horrible. as i've told a few of you in the past i usually have much more luck with with walmarts, and of course paying the extra few bucksfor shipping and ordering online. it's just such a shame that this toys r us has become so bad.

i recall going to the local one as a child with either my parents or grandparents back in the late 80s and early 90s. the stores were clean, fully stocked and the employees wanted to help you. i know i sound like a broken record because i recall mentioning this years back. but i remember one of the workers would grab a fresh case of TMNT for my grandmother and me and let me take the ones i needed. didn't matter there was fully stocked shelves and so fourth.

these stores have gone down the drain IMMENSELY....

decepticon_mark 01-16-2018 11:54 AM

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Playing in the snow.. :D

3233rafael 01-16-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by decepticon_mark (Post 740462)
Playing in the snow.. :D

:pics

VashTS 01-16-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donmeca2020 (Post 740454)
what i saw they had an abundant amount of which i nearly fell over because its considered old at this point. was that vision,kate bishop, and whoever else 3 pack.... but besides that. how can a store be so sh!tty ??? garbage on the floors, close to empty pegs during the early afternoon, nothing is in the right place with the correct pricing and even the employees are nowhere to be found. hell the cashier didnt even want to do jack i can tell, and they literally just opened 1 hour and half or so before that.

this is the main reason i stay away from TRU stores here in south florida they are just horrible. as i've told a few of you in the past i usually have much more luck with with walmarts, and of course paying the extra few bucksfor shipping and ordering online. it's just such a shame that this toys r us has become so bad.

i recall going to the local one as a child with either my parents or grandparents back in the late 80s and early 90s. the stores were clean, fully stocked and the employees wanted to help you. i know i sound like a broken record because i recall mentioning this years back. but i remember one of the workers would grab a fresh case of TMNT for my grandmother and me and let me take the ones i needed. didn't matter there was fully stocked shelves and so fourth.

these stores have gone down the drain IMMENSELY....

The employees not caring is a part of something that got me in trouble on Tokunations. It's one of the "isms" that really has devalued the employees in America.

I remember the stock guys, taking time and looking at the boxes and finding the characters I wanted. Employees now, simply do not care. It could be the current generation that work in said places, never collected toys and have little to no idea what the heck is an action figure.

Different theories, but it is what you think it is essentially.
People think those times are gone for good, but eventually it will return, as people yearn for simplicity from the past and the market will open and provide it or a man with a GOOD brain will find a untapped, niche market.

I yearn for train stores and a more family friendly environment involving toys, and eventually that need will be filled by me or someone like myself who has the wherewithal to do it.

Trivial Psychic 01-16-2018 03:18 PM

Reports are now starting to flow in from various sites that Tom Holland's Spider-Man will indeed appear in Venom, but as to what capacity is unsure. Could be a major role or an end of movie cameo. If this turns out to be true...I'm wondering if the backlash by fans about Venom being it's own separate thing was enough to force Sony and Disney to backpedal? I'm also wondering what it will do to the story now, as originally it looked like it was crossing over a lot of elements from the Ultimate universe (the symbiote being non alien in origin) along with the Lethal Protector (Life Foundation/San Francisco setting) and the Planet of the Symbiotes (multiple symbiotes run amuck on the public) storyline.

donmeca2020 01-16-2018 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 740472)
The employees not caring is a part of something that got me in trouble on Tokunations. It's one of the "isms" that really has devalued the employees in America.

I remember the stock guys, taking time and looking at the boxes and finding the characters I wanted. Employees now, simply do not care. It could be the current generation that work in said places, never collected toys and have little to no idea what the heck is an action figure.

Different theories, but it is what you think it is essentially.
People think those times are gone for good, but eventually it will return, as people yearn for simplicity from the past and the market will open and provide it or a man with a GOOD brain will find a untapped, niche market.

I yearn for train stores and a more family friendly environment involving toys, and eventually that need will be filled by me or someone like myself who has the wherewithal to do it.

Those days are long gone.... especially living in a very large and over populated area such as south florida for me. Maybe in some small town setting that's possible, but large areas ?
Definitely not. That's how society has gotten.

That's a completely different topic at hand.

Augustus_Cole 01-16-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donmeca2020 (Post 740492)

That's a completely different topic at hand.

speaking of completely different topics.....:offtopic

anyone remember the old RACE TRACKS AISLE in Toys R Us.
nothing but racetracks..and up above the product...were the fully built tracks, hanging sideways....ahh...the good ole' days..



and...
Can anyone part with those new blue Iron Man blast accessories??
I need a couple.
Free if you don't want them or for a few bucks...lemme know...

jwyss234 01-16-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 740489)
Reports are now starting to flow in from various sites that Tom Holland's Spider-Man will indeed appear in Venom, but as to what capacity is unsure. Could be a major role or an end of movie cameo. If this turns out to be true...I'm wondering if the backlash by fans about Venom being it's own separate thing was enough to force Sony and Disney to backpedal? I'm also wondering what it will do to the story now, as originally it looked like it was crossing over a lot of elements from the Ultimate universe (the symbiote being non alien in origin) along with the Lethal Protector (Life Foundation/San Francisco setting) and the Planet of the Symbiotes (multiple symbiotes run amuck on the public) storyline.

The guy who I’ve seen being credited with this info is Jon Schnepp. He’s done some work in Hollywood but I didn’t see anything on his IMDB page to connect him to the Venom movie. Plus, it doesn’t really make sense for Peter to cameo in a movie set in San Francisco.

Tomax 01-16-2018 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decepticon_mark (Post 740462)
Playing in the snow.. :D

nice! gonna have to go to the beach to take Sand pics since we never get snow down here :(

Jeddostotle7 01-16-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VashTS (Post 740472)
The employees not caring is a part of something that got me in trouble on Tokunations. It's one of the "isms" that really has devalued the employees in America.

I remember the stock guys, taking time and looking at the boxes and finding the characters I wanted. Employees now, simply do not care. It could be the current generation that work in said places, never collected toys and have little to no idea what the heck is an action figure.

Different theories, but it is what you think it is essentially.
People think those times are gone for good, but eventually it will return, as people yearn for simplicity from the past and the market will open and provide it or a man with a GOOD brain will find a untapped, niche market.

I yearn for train stores and a more family friendly environment involving toys, and eventually that need will be filled by me or someone like myself who has the wherewithal to do it.

I think it's more that most retail employees are barely getting paid enough to live working multiple jobs, and certainly not enough to live with any sort of real comfort or security, so the amount of care they have for the job is understandably low. Plus, retail work environments are often garbage for a number of other additional factors aside from that as well, one of the big ones being frequent mistreatment by customers who hold low opinions of them, or who expect unrealistic things from them. For many of those people, they're literally only there because they have to be to live, and for a variety of other reasons, they have no better options for making a living.

TL;DR: maybe don't shittalk retail employees. They already have enough to deal with.

The Daryl 01-16-2018 07:18 PM

@Bo Ttef
That Shuri looks incredible!


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