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bmorr 07-20-2012 07:16 AM

we all know HE survives cause he ends up joining the uncanny avengers. Emma is gonna get drunk with power and manipulate the other three to gain their power. She ends up going all super saiyan and its everybody against her. I mean, its the pheonix. Somebody HAS to go out of control with it.

Exodus 07-20-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 327129)
Well, issue #8 felt more like filler material than an end to the 2nd act. I'll try to add more detail when I'm off work later if i get the time but the abridged version is pretty much this:

Namor destroys Wakanda. Panther is obviously pissed. Iron Man and Thunderer escape back through the portal to K'un Lun. Avengers assemble and kick the crap out of Namor. Namor recovers then gets confronted by Scarlet Witch. It took all the Avengers to beat Namor. Namor loses his portion of the Phoenix power and it redistributed itself amongst the other 4 Phoenix members, which means he's out. Emma seems to have played Namor since she is seen coercing Namor into his rampage against Wakanda and making out with him at the end of issue 7. Its almost like she knew he would be defeated and they would get his power and become stronger. Avengers all escape to K'un Lun, Hope asks "Is there a plan" Cap looks down and unsure. End issue.

So when does the "No More Avengers" kick in? Isn't that suppose to happen, and are all the filler's almost done like the Avengers and X-Titles....
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Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 327362)
i hope emma frost dies at the end of this. I actually felt sorry for justins sentinel in AA. I so want to see what black panther does to Namor now. A fight between two kings. Oh and gross to seeing Red Hulk arm nearly getting taken off. Oh, and now we have professor coming into the playing field.

Finally Prof X is in...been waiting for him and Cable to pop into the books, those 2 should be the main player's in this story line...

Kaewin 07-23-2012 11:01 PM

Why is Iron Man the wrong color? Also if Thor is having problems what not call for aid from Asgadia?

bmorr 07-24-2012 05:03 AM

which comic are you talking about kaewin

rodimus15 07-28-2012 11:40 AM

Picked #8 last week, forgot to discuss. I love when Namor shouts "Imperius Rex!!!!", its great. I'm waiting for Cable to make in appearance. I wonder what the Professor has up his sleeve. Is he just going to mind f*** the phoenix 4? When Red Hulks arm snapped, TOO RAW!

shortysben 07-28-2012 06:49 PM

Best part about the story is its getting close to the point where we find out what all this is gonna lead to....(i hope)...ha, I really liked the Red Hulk scenes from this weeks comics...

bmorr 07-29-2012 12:39 PM

did you guys enjoy rulks solo adventure in avengers 28? We actually see him transform back in to Ross and he goes hunting for mutants in Utopia with a sniper rifle. After getting found out he transforms back and goes on a one hulk rampage, failing miserably. He gets laser blasted halk way across the world into the heart or wakanda with an x across the chest, ensuring how much he got owned.

i dont remember, but did any x book tie ins come out this week?

xhavoc86 08-01-2012 04:25 PM

AvX 9 came out today, phoenix four is quickly unraveling, and I'm pretty sure its phoenix two now lol

What Emma did makes me believe that they're setting up Scott and Jean to get back together, since Jean is returning, but maybe I'm wrong.

On to a better couple, I hope Storm and Black Panther's relationship survive, although it seems unlikely...

rodimus15 08-01-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xhavoc86 (Post 334662)
AvX 9 came out today, phoenix four is quickly unraveling, and I'm pretty sure its phoenix two now lol

What Emma did makes me believe that they're setting up Scott and Jean to get back together, since Jean is returning, but maybe I'm wrong.

On to a better couple, I hope Storm and Black Panther's relationship survive, although it seems unlikely...

Well time to hit the comic book store. How many issuse are there, 12?

shortysben 08-01-2012 06:35 PM

Yeah, I am still on the fence about #9...I mean it was okay, but we only have 6 weeks (or 3 books) left...they better start the ending, or getting to the climax...

Greenskar 08-02-2012 09:17 AM

On the contrary, I thoroughly enjoyed AvX #9. Finally some emotion went into an issue and it had to be Spidey who stole the show! So far the second half of this series has been solid. If it continues this strong then I might forgive the terrible first half of this event. Almost.

bmorr 08-02-2012 09:37 AM

Jeez, spidey's secret identity was kind of slipping this week with multiple mentions of Uncle Ben. Things are really gonna pick up though with the confrontation between hope and scott. I reeeely hope emma dies at the end of this. I absolutly hate her as a character.

Avengers Academy this week went all Teen Titans with members about to(i assume) get killed left and right before the ending. Its funny that they made that jeremy kid into Lex Luthor-lite. God what a fun book this is. I love it.

Greenskar 08-02-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 335179)
Jeez, spidey's secret identity was kind of slipping this week with multiple mentions of Uncle Ben. Things are really gonna pick up though with the confrontation between hope and scott. I reeeely hope emma dies at the end of this. I absolutly hate her as a character.

Avengers Academy this week went all Teen Titans with members about to(i assume) get killed left and right before the ending. Its funny that they made that jeremy kid into Lex Luthor-lite. God what a fun book this is. I love it.

I really want to read avengers academy but I will probably just wait until the prices drop. I keep hearing good things from you guys.

I didnt think Spidey's identity was slipping at all. How many uncle Ben's are probably in New York? Everyone's reaction to him saying uncle ben are always nonplussed ones.

bmorr 08-02-2012 10:53 AM

just grab the trades off amazon.

xhavoc86 08-07-2012 12:37 PM

There's talk of Emma being killed off in the conclusion of Avengers vs X-Men.

Emma is losing it, she went behind Cyclops's back to push Namor into attacking Wakanda, she's a murderer in issue 9, and in issue 10, its not looking any better for her. The cover for 11 is crazy too. Not to mention Jean's upcoming return.

I really think they are pushing Jean and Scott back together, because Emma is just coming apart at the seams.

bmorr 08-07-2012 01:55 PM

well the original x men are coming back, but are we now dealing with two jeans?

Greenskar 08-07-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 338340)
well the original x men are coming back, but are we now dealing with two jeans?

Not unless they resurrect Jean first to coincide with the Jean who is time displaced in the upcoming book that is being referenced on this thread. Or are we claiming Hope is actually Jean now?

But yeah this original X-Men team book that's coming out is just supposed to be a time displaced team and basically the opposite of the time traveling stories we've been used to. For example, X-Force and Avengers have all recently gone to a future that they are trying to prevent (seen it way too many times), we have seen cable, Deathlok and Bishop, to name a few, come from the future to the present to help prevent a bad future, lol. So why not bring an old team to the future that is actually our present time so they can deal with the AvX aftermath? Ooooooooh....spooky!

Oh Marvel.

bmorr 08-07-2012 04:32 PM

That sucks balls, who asked for the classic x men back when 4/5 are still alive? Why does this even need to happen. Ill blame Bendis cause why not.

redfox 08-07-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 338340)
well the original x men are coming back, but are we now dealing with two jeans?

After reading this, I think there will only be the one time-displaced Jean returning.

-Just Jean Grey alone inspires so many story ideas and so many emotions, and means so much to so many people. That's the thing X-Men fans always say they want. You go anywhere — "Bring back Jean Grey!" But they don't want a reincarnated Jean Grey, and they don't want a dug-up Jean Grey. They want Jean. It's not like I run out of my way to find crowd-pleasing things, but this does allow us to get Jean back, pure. What a great thing. And I love Jean, I love writing her — just having her push forth. She's one of the inciting things that makes this happen in the first place, her coming here and going, "Why is everyone looking at me? What happened, and why is the school named after me?"

Newsarama.com : Exclusive: Brian Bendis on the Marvel NOW! ALL-NEW X-MEN

Tarooster 08-08-2012 04:36 AM

I haven't been reading the main books but ive been thinking about it.my problem though is ive been reading uncanny still and the whole premise of what I'm seeing just seems a little funky to me. I mean it's a cool idea but there's so many better marvel stories going on right now that just seem a lot better.

Black Dynomite 08-11-2012 05:42 PM

Havent picked up a comic book in about 15 years, with the exception of the meat and potatoes of Civil War. I have picked up every AvX issue to date and I am hella confused. You guys commentary in this thread is helping but damn shit has gotten crazy since my 90s X-Men "Na-na-na-na-naaaaaaa-na-na" theme song days. As someone who hasnt been as invested in the current storylines, it seems to me like:

-Emma will be the final boss battle with either Scott, Jean, Tony, or Prof. X
-Magneto has to get his hands dirty soon
-Tony is Marvels mascot right now so I'm guessing whatever the last ordeal is he'll have his hands all over it.
-WTF is up with Thor? Has he been depowered in recent storylines? It's not that I expect him to knock these dudes around by himself but he's just getting slapped around at this point.
-Where the hell is Hulk? I see he's on the next cover but where has he been this whole time.
-When/why was Xavier kicked out of X-Men?

All in all, Im having a blast getting back into reading comics. Any suggestions on some stories I can jump into and not get even more confused?

bmorr 08-11-2012 06:30 PM

wait till october when it all goes back to number ones. Also new avengers this week was all dialogue and no action, and led to nothing. FILLER.

Iceman 08-12-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Dynomite (Post 340878)
Havent picked up a comic book in about 15 years, with the exception of the meat and potatoes of Civil War. I have picked up every AvX issue to date and I am hella confused. You guys commentary in this thread is helping but damn shit has gotten crazy since my 90s X-Men "Na-na-na-na-naaaaaaa-na-na" theme song days. As someone who hasnt been as invested in the current storylines, it seems to me like:

-Emma will be the final boss battle with either Scott, Jean, Tony, or Prof. X
-Magneto has to get his hands dirty soon
-Tony is Marvels mascot right now so I'm guessing whatever the last ordeal is he'll have his hands all over it.
-WTF is up with Thor? Has he been depowered in recent storylines? It's not that I expect him to knock these dudes around by himself but he's just getting slapped around at this point.
-Where the hell is Hulk? I see he's on the next cover but where has he been this whole time.
-When/why was Xavier kicked out of X-Men?

All in all, Im having a blast getting back into reading comics. Any suggestions on some stories I can jump into and not get even more confused?


I was in the same boat as you a few months back as X-Men stories have done a lot in the last 15 years. It can be hard to figure out where to start. Here is what you need to do.

Read these in order,

Astonishing X-Men (optional)

House of M
X-Men: Deadly Genesis (explains the deal with Xaiver for the most part)
X-Men: Messiah Complex
X-Men: Utopia
X-Men: Second Coming

X-Men: Schism (optional if you want to know why Wolverine left)

From there you are up on what you need to know about pre AvX stuff.


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Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 340898)
wait till october when it all goes back to number ones. Also new avengers this week was all dialogue and no action, and led to nothing. FILLER.

I still haven't seen which titles are starting over. I know some of them won't, especially the ones that just recently started.

shortysben 08-12-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 340898)
wait till october when it all goes back to number ones. Also new avengers this week was all dialogue and no action, and led to nothing. FILLER.

no shit, this issue hurt my feelings more than the 2 issues wasted in k'un lun...bout to drop this one...

redfox 08-13-2012 05:10 PM

Really looking forward to Round 10!


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