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Crazy Jetty 07-02-2012 02:00 PM

I still don't see where it makes any lick of difference if they face off now, or in the next round, or after that. If they're going to face off, who the hell cares when?
Yes, the majority would choose TMNT over Bionic Six. But if you put them right off the bat, you'll never see Bionix Six vs whatever they were put up against.
You put those two against these two, then you're assuring both fail the first round. That's where it's unfair. As is, I see absoltely nothing unfair about MotU against TMNT first round, considering they're the most neck and neck vote that's happened yet.
I see a lot of people complaining when they're favorites get put against another favorite, that they "should have been put against a shitty property." That's outright asinine and unfair.
Say you rig the brackets to where only SW, TMNT, MOTU and Star Wars reaches the top brackets. Everyone can guess who's going to come out on top from the start.
But now, did anyone anticipate TF trounsing Star Wars so badly? Can anyone call this one yet? No.
No one can make a full 100% certain prediction of the end right now. And don't forget, there's actually prize money at stake in this contest. Of course they want to make it where people can't predict the outcome. It makes sense that the heavy hitters all face ovv pretty early. It makes a lot of sense, and makes the whole thing far more fair and equal.

Bubba304 07-02-2012 04:14 PM

tough decision but i gotta go with my first love...MOTU...TMNT had my full attention for a few years and I loved it. however, He-man has stood the test of time in my book...still enjoy the figures, the comics, etc. TMNT i have no interest in at this time.

Ninjinister 07-02-2012 06:43 PM

Turtles surpasses in every way.

kenm2474 07-02-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 315588)
Masters of the Universe

http://i.imgur.com/7C0KA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iTcX7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8t2Al.jpg

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

http://i.imgur.com/vymbq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q2MG4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1P1Yt.gif

Very hard to pick as they were both a part of my childhood so I will hold off on voting.

Pravus Prime 07-03-2012 12:11 AM

Very hard choice. Went with MOTU.

uberlad 07-03-2012 12:27 AM

I feel this choice comes down to which toyline you played with as a kid.

Nothing against the turtles, and I loved the cartoon, but for a toyline? I choose MOTU.

Xcaliber037 07-03-2012 04:42 AM

TMNT for me. The inflatable blimp rocked!!!

Joe Moore 07-03-2012 04:50 AM

The ultimate goal of this tournament is to have fun, see two toy lines go head to head and see who moves on. I did not put a big name against a tiny line because there's no fun in it, there's no decision to be made. But again, the aim for this was just to have a fun series of polls for people to vote on and discuss. There's no need to take something this innocuous so seriously.

Lody666 07-03-2012 10:35 AM

This is going to be CLOSE

Crazy Jetty 07-03-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 316134)
The ultimate goal of this tournament is to have fun, see two toy lines go head to head and see who moves on. I did not put a big name against a tiny line because there's no fun in it, there's no decision to be made. But again, the aim for this was just to have a fun series of polls for people to vote on and discuss. There's no need to take something this innocuous so seriously.

Right, and thank you for that. If you set up the matches where only big names come out on top, then what's the whole point in the entire game?

Yobuster 07-03-2012 11:44 AM

Wow i think MOTU vs TMNT will be the closest fight ever for these polls, at the end i certainly hope we get a listing of how many votes each toyline won by.

I like MOTU but it was TMNT that gave me the most fun.

miketime 07-03-2012 11:54 AM

Just remembered to vote. Advantage MOTU. lol I actually played with both Turtles and MOTU. I had a great Turtles collection untill my step sisters kids got to them. I was pretty upset that my parents allowed them to play with them and then one day they were all gone. WTF. I would of have had a near mint loose collection of turtles and company because I was already 13 by the time they came out and I was treating my toys much nicer by then. One year all I asked my dad for was turtles. He must have bought me every fig on the pegs at the time. Then I made him pretend we were Jewish so I could get one figure a day up to Christmas. lol

Optimus Vader 07-03-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 316134)
The ultimate goal of this tournament is to have fun, see two toy lines go head to head and see who moves on. I did not put a big name against a tiny line because there's no fun in it, there's no decision to be made. But again, the aim for this was just to have a fun series of polls for people to vote on and discuss. There's no need to take something this innocuous so seriously.

Agreed. I should've ignored the post where I was told my opinion is wrong.

drew2kew 07-03-2012 12:24 PM

I saw that TMNT was losing by 1 vote, had to sign in to tie this up. TMNT is the stuff. I have all 4 original + many + Scratch!

Joe Moore 07-03-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimus Vader (Post 316335)
Agreed. I should've ignored the post where I was told my opinion is wrong.

I don't recall directing my post at any person in particular. But more the multiple statements I've been seeing through out the polls where people mentioned the toys that are going against each other in the first round of polling. I didn't quote any posts nor did I degrade anyone's opinion. I said there no need to take this so seriously when it's meant to be nothing more than a fun series of polls.

Ninjinister 07-03-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew2kew (Post 316340)
I saw that TMNT was losing by 1 vote, had to sign in to tie this up. TMNT is the stuff. I have all 4 original + many + Scratch!

Scratch is hella baller.

quinten182 07-03-2012 12:30 PM

I think it'd have been more epic for this matchup to wait though. I see the point of putting the big names against each other, but just like sports playoffs, isn't it the point to watch the big names cream the little names early (unless there is an upset!) and then meet in the finals? We're getting 2 of the absolute biggest ones in round 1.. and now when you look at who finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.. one of these two will NOT be included. That's silly! You should actually have WANTED the big names to take on the little names early on so we had epic finales and an awesome final top 5 or whatever. Just my two cents, either way this is pretty awesomely fun. ;)

quinten182 07-03-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty (Post 315793)
I still don't see where it makes any lick of difference if they face off now, or in the next round, or after that. If they're going to face off, who the hell cares when?
Yes, the majority would choose TMNT over Bionic Six. But if you put them right off the bat, you'll never see Bionix Six vs whatever they were put up against.
You put those two against these two, then you're assuring both fail the first round. That's where it's unfair.

This is where my post before this simply disagrees. It's how tournaments are ran. It's called seeding in tournaments/brackets such as this. You say it is unfair that they don't get to move on, but if they couldn't beat a "big name" early, what on earth makes you think they will beat the winner of 2 big names later? I mean no negativity in any way, but the logic is flawed in your post. (Warning: Lame NFL related comment upcoming) Sure it's fun to see The Patriots and Giants battle it out in the first round of the playoffs, but would you give a crap about the Super Bowl if it was Giants and the dogs from the the Puppy Bowl? (bad example I know, as this would probably be pretty awesome, but not in a competitive sense like we're discussing. ;P) Point in case, Bionic Six vs TMNT OR MOTU in the finals will be a shrugfest.. therefore making the finals no fun and compeltely defeating the purpose of a bracket. :)

Crazy Jetty 07-03-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quinten182 (Post 316352)
This is where my post before this simply disagrees. It's how tournaments are ran. It's called seeding in tournaments/brackets such as this. You say it is unfair that they don't get to move on, but if they couldn't beat a "big name" early, what on earth makes you think they will beat the winner of 2 big names later? I mean no negativity in any way, but the logic is flawed in your post. (Warning: Lame NFL related comment upcoming) Sure it's fun to see The Patriots and Giants battle it out in the first round of the playoffs, but would you give a crap about the Super Bowl if it was Giants and the dogs from the the Puppy Bowl? (bad example I know, as this would probably be pretty awesome, but not in a competitive sense like we're discussing. ;P) Point in case, Bionic Six vs TMNT OR MOTU in the finals will be a shrugfest.. therefore making the finals no fun and compeltely defeating the purpose of a bracket. :)

I agree with Joe entirely in his choosing, and see absolutely no wrong. Your way is just pointless and not even worth participating in. If you're going to make sure these two never saw one another until the final round, then what's the point in the entire game? Why not just jump straight to the final round and ignore everything else?

So we'll agree to disagree.

drew2kew 07-03-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 316344)
Scratch is hella baller.

Lol yeah. He comes with a bag of money he just stole

Ninjinister 07-03-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew2kew (Post 316393)
Lol yeah. He comes with a bag of money he just stole

Nah. that's how much it costs you to buy him :P

Optimus Vader 07-03-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty (Post 316367)
I agree with Joe entirely in his choosing, and see absolutely no wrong. Your way is just pointless and not even worth participating in. If you're going to make sure these two never saw one another until the final round, then what's the point in the entire game? Why not just jump straight to the final round and ignore everything else?

So we'll agree to disagree.

It's not pointless. You just don't understand it.

You should've agreed to disagree before calling people who posted their opinion.

Snailbot 07-03-2012 03:35 PM

I remember getting that Slime Pit. The purchase, when I got it home, the first time I "slimed" He-Man. If TMNT would have been released when I was playing with MOTU, this vote may have been impossible for me.

SoundWave88 07-03-2012 06:29 PM

For me at least, this boils down to age. I was much younger when He-Man came out, they were my first big boy toys/action figures. I watched the cartoon, even She-Ra. Me and my best friend both collected and played each other. By the time TMNT came out, I was growing out of toys and moving into comic books, video games, and music. I loved the Turtles original comics and cartoons. But I had stopped playing with toys and so had no Turtles. My little brother did, though.

As far as the polls, it seems that they are paired off against similar lines in terms of type of toy and popularity. It would be pointless for Go-Bots to go against Transformers, but going against another line in terms of popularity gives them both an equal chance. Thus TF vs. Star Wars.

Greylight 07-03-2012 07:54 PM

Wow, tough choice. I loved both properties as a kid, but MOTU was slightly before my time. I had a few of the figures and an incomplete Castle Grayskull that I found at yard sales and flea markets, but New Adventures of He-Man was more familiar to me.

On the other hand, TMNT was one of my top favorites. I loved the Technodrome playset, and the Sewer playset was totally radical! I still have all of them somewhere. Fond memories.

Turtle Power!


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