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trebleshot 09-16-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 459010)
Oddly enough, I may actually want a Movie He-Man. MOTU fans would probably kill me for that, but, I'd grab that. Just for the silliness factor. Subscription to get that, hell no. But I'd pick it up solo with a mark up.

Yeah, I'd probably do the same for the same reasons. It would be too goofy to pass up.

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Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 459015)
I mean the different character.

Ok, and yes, toy companies have been doing that for literally decades. However, any parts that require new tooling are additional costs on top of what was already spent on the initial mold.

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One thing I do not get is if Mattel claims it costs So much for figures and they cannot justify the DC Club then why is money being spent on other figures for the other being made couldn't that money be spent on producing the DC figures.
Each toy line has its own budget. Just because they may use the same IP does not necessarily mean they all share the same money pool. DCUC didn't make enough profit to keep it at retail and it didn't make enough pre-sales to keep it going as a subscription line anymore. End of story.

CMIII 09-16-2013 10:50 AM

actually Mattel is saving me money. I was only going to NYCC to see what DC stuff they were gonna do. Because the line failed cancelled my plans to attend and listen to a load of 4H/Matty BS.. I get that part but Mattel has to explain that if figures sell out why they still cannot produce.

Has there been talk about movie He-man (Val Kilmer)

trebleshot 09-16-2013 12:10 PM

Because the extras they make for Day-Of-Sale are most likely based on if (and by how much) they go over their stated goal. "Customer Service" figures should already be factored into the goal as part of the overall budget required to produce that year's figures.

I'm curious if some of the figures we've seen for the first time at Powercon are because of MOTUC exceeding their goal(s) with CE.

(Hey, look at that. Back on topic!)

CMIII 09-16-2013 01:33 PM

I doubt it since now they can focus on the one line those fans will get everything. They'll just cut off the other people like we never exsisted like they did with WWE, Lion Force, and so on. Did they open the MOTU sub yet (not that I am buying)?

Honestly for the DCUC I could live without them at retail

Kelvacos 09-16-2013 04:56 PM

Omg..... Not feeling this new MOTU era.!

webz 09-16-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 459008)
The TMNT Power Shell Turtles and all the new villains/side characters will be bought on sight. I think I might start getting the Classics now as well, since the roll-out for them seems to be much slower. That makes it easier to justify $20 a pop. I will probably have to grab BBop and RS before I complete the set of "Toitles", though.
.

I was really stoked on the Classics TMNT line, until I finally saw Donnie and Mike at a TRU Express (my three full sized, local TRU's don't even have the skn on the shelves!!!).

The toys look HORRIBLE. The finger articulation is such that if the hands are closed, the "knuckles" look like wolverine claws. The forearms are WAY too short, and the arms and legs scale is way too small. They just look extremely disappointing. Not remotely worth the $25 asking price. I almost literally cried, I was so disappointed. Even worse, on the toys' cards, they show the prototype toys, which look amazing and NOTHING like the final release.

webz 09-16-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 459029)
Has there been talk about movie He-man (Val Kilmer)

No, coz there is no such thing. Movie He-Man was Dolph Lundgren.

CMIII 09-16-2013 05:36 PM

my bad it shows how much I pay attention to He-Man doesn't it. Giving me one of their figures would be like giving a Monkey a 2500 piece Jigsaw Puzzle yeah he might put one or two pieces together but the final results won't likely be anything good

SilverCenturion 09-16-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimus Neeson (Post 458870)
Playmates better have fixed the tiny shoulders I told them about from the live-action TMNT toys.
For anyone wondering what I'm talking about, here's the visual:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...y4-d6fgtp8.png

The shoulders on the Leo prototype are too small, and set too low on the body.

Wow, if they dare make them this inaccurate they must surely think that we're dumb enough to pay for them. What's next? They're gonna throw in accessories that launch pizzas? That would be incredibly inaccurate to the movies and therefore blasphemy!!!!

Optimus Neeson 09-16-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverCenturion (Post 459061)
Wow, if they dare make them this inaccurate they must surely think that we're dumb enough to pay for them. What's next? They're gonna throw in accessories that launch pizzas? That would be incredibly inaccurate to the movies and therefore blasphemy!!!!

Except that the whole point of this specific line is to produce something high quality and highly accurate.
Your sarcastic comment would be more valid if I was nitpicking the original Movie Star line.

trebleshot 09-17-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 459042)
I doubt it since now they can focus on the one line those fans will get everything.

Would you please stop implying that the fate of DCUC has anything to do with MOTUC. Two separate production teams, two separate budgets, two separate clubs. DCUC failed on its own. Let it go, already.

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They'll just cut off the other people like we never exsisted like they did with WWE, Lion Force, and so on.
Bitter, much?

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Originally Posted by webz (Post 459055)
The toys look HORRIBLE. The finger articulation is such that if the hands are closed, the "knuckles" look like wolverine claws. The forearms are WAY too short, and the arms and legs scale is way too small. They just look extremely disappointing. Not remotely worth the $25 asking price. I almost literally cried, I was so disappointed. Even worse, on the toys' cards, they show the prototype toys, which look amazing and NOTHING like the final release.

I feel for you. It sucks when those pretty press photos hype a toy up so much that the retail version just pales in comparison.

I've seen Raph a couple of times myself and I wasn't able to pull the trigger. But I don't think the toys look that bad per se, it's just that I've always preferred their comic look over the 90's TV show. I might still get Raph, since one only has to own one of that mold to know what all four are like and Raph's my favorite.

Lody666 09-17-2013 06:17 AM

Anyone else weirded out by the fact that there is a grown man shown on the back of the Castle Greyskull box opening it to reveal the features inside and then folding it up for storage/transport?

Why exactly isn't there a picture of a little kid??

trebleshot 09-17-2013 07:52 AM

Because it's an "Adult Collectible". ;)

Shin Densetsu 09-17-2013 09:19 AM

Blade and Battle Lion look awesome. Looking forward to the Battle Shell Turtles too.

C.I.A.D. 09-17-2013 09:56 AM

Every time new pictures surface of TMNT & MOTU, I'm so glad that I don't collect those lines. There's just too much awesome. Awesome always equates to going broke, lol.

CMIII 09-17-2013 11:06 AM

I was not Implying that due to MOTU the DC Sub ended. I was saying that they can focus all attention on 1 thing now.

As for being bitter yes I am. Sorry MOTU fans but Mattel backed the MOTU sub more and it's what causes bitterness. To that end I wont post in a MOTUC Appreciation Thing. I'm just getting tired of waiting for Mattel to speak on their plans for 2014

trebleshot 09-17-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 459119)
I was not Implying that due to MOTU the DC Sub ended. I was saying that they can focus all attention on 1 thing now.

One thing? You can't possibly be serious with that statement.

Have you seen Mattel's product list lately?

CMIII 09-17-2013 12:06 PM

Yes I have they are all over the Map. What I meant is they can focus on one sub now it'll make it easier for them. No more trying to figure what DC fans do not want with Lackluster figures and figures they just shove out because they are Figurable over what people really want.

Honestly I do not look beyond DC I could care less what Mattel makes for anyone else since what they are making for DC next doesn't appeal to me they aren't making anything unless they say 4H and DCUC style figures will be out at NYCC Mattel is closed to me next year

Tony_Bacala 09-17-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 459125)
Yes I have they are all over the Map. What I meant is they can focus on one sub now it'll make it easier for them. No more trying to figure what DC fans do not want with Lackluster figures and figures they just shove out because they are Figurable over what people really want.

Honestly I do not look beyond DC I could care less what Mattel makes for anyone else since what they are making for DC next doesn't appeal to me they aren't making anything unless they say 4H and DCUC style figures will be out at NYCC Mattel is closed to me next year

I see you're a DCUC fanatic, which is cool, so I hate to say it - DCUC and figures that fit with it under different line names - for now and the foreseeable future - is dead. Done. Over.

I would focus your attention on the DCUC celebration threads, fill in gaps of your collection with figs from DCUC you missed (if any), and move on. Discussing how Mattel effed up DCUC in threads not related to them is not going to work here long term.

Just a suggestion. I know it's hard when something you've invested in for years stops being appealing, mostly due to the direction the company took with it. Happened with me and TF years ago. But it happens.

1987olds442 09-18-2013 07:51 AM

The one figure I really want is the Battle Lion. I love the 200X cartoon and I would really like to get King Grayskull's Battle Lion to set him upon, and I'm getting tried of putting Grayskull back on the shelf all the time he can't stand worth a darn http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...tu/Skellol.gif

Pravus Prime 09-18-2013 10:39 AM

I'm a little shocked that we have a movie and classics TMNT and there's no Shredder? At least this far.

Optimus Neeson 09-18-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pravus Prime (Post 459210)
I'm a little shocked that we have a movie and classics TMNT and there's no Shredder? At least this far.

I hope they make a movie Shredder. He's much more visually interesting than cartoon Shredder.

trebleshot 09-18-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimus Neeson (Post 459214)
I hope they make a movie Shredder. He's much more visually interesting than cartoon Shredder.

Agreed. And I'd be happy whether they did regular or Super-Sized (or both), just as long as they make one. Maybe even do a variant of the regular version that's post-Garbage Truck.

Optimus Neeson 09-18-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 459220)
Agreed. And I'd be happy whether they did regular or Super-Sized (or both), just as long as they make one. Maybe even do a variant of the regular version that's post-Garbage Truck.

Super Shredder aside, the only differences between TMNT 1 Shredder and TMNT 2 Shredder are in the helmet. In the first movie, the spikes on his helmet are smooth. In part 2, they're serrated. In the first movie, his helmet has a chainmail texture. In part 2, it has shingles.

trebleshot 09-19-2013 07:04 AM

I was thinking more of a battle-damaged look that could be an SDCC exclusive or something. Like what he would have looked like when Tatsu pulled him out of the truck after Casey turned it on at the end of TMNT 1.


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