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trebleshot 06-06-2014 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 532609)
As much as i like movie costumes would be terrific if they started to make comic figures i.e 1st at the top of the image, people read comics more than they can watch a film in a sense until the next one comes out if they'd focus on making comic costumes rather than movie costumes besides aren't they based off comic costumes in the first place i.e the amzing spidey 2

Some are comic-based (like ASM2), some are created for the film and then the comic changes to match the movie. It all depends on which movie and which characters we're talking about.

I'd certainly like to see comic versions alongside their movie counterparts for more than just the main character(s).

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basically use that huge archive of comic book characters at your disposal first by making rouge , moonstone , pile driver etc
Who is Rouge? Sounds like a villain with a thing for blush (makeup).

warmachine6 06-06-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 532662)
Some are comic-based (like ASM2), some are created for the film and then the comic changes to match the movie. It all depends on which movie and which characters we're talking about.

I'd certainly like to see comic versions alongside their movie counterparts for more than just the main character(s).



Who is Rouge? Sounds like a villain with a thing for blush (makeup).

ah meant rogue from x-men but if there's a character like that i'd be suprised

trebleshot 06-06-2014 07:59 AM

Out of curiosity, I decided to look it up before I saw your response. Sure enough, there is a character called Rouge. She's a DC villain, though.

Madame Rouge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And from Doom Patrol, no less. Damn, I really need to go back and re-read that run.

warmachine6 06-06-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 532697)
Out of curiosity, I decided to look it up before I saw your response. Sure enough, there is a character called Rouge. She's a DC villain, though.

Madame Rouge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And from Doom Patrol, no less. Damn, I really need to go back and re-read that run.

yeahh i meant her ..... from teen titans .....

Nymesys Prime 06-06-2014 08:05 AM

I think that the surprising price point on the Xmen legends may show a change in the whole Movie/Action figures languishing department. Surprisingly $14.99 will make figures move I thing...just saying

trebleshot 06-06-2014 08:17 AM

They will certainly do better at $14.99 than at $19.99. I know what I would buy if I had $15 to spend on a toy while looking at Marvel Legends and Total Heroes.

(a deluxe Transformer)

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Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 532700)
yeahh i meant her ..... from teen titans .....

Lol, I didn't even think about her being on Teen Titans, too. Guess I had my Marvel blinders on. :o

kylactus 06-06-2014 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=trebleshot;532246]Yes, because NOT putting out movie toys will help movie toys sell more. :rolleyes:

no, it won't "help movie toy sales" but if the same movie product has four cases peg warming, and the comic based figures are always sold out maybe, just maybe that could be an indicator to the company (in this case Hasbro) that they need to diversify there offerings, or at least shift there ratios to avoid market saturation. to put it simply if they produced half the number of movie figure for any line, they would have sold out therefore improving there numbers, and they could have put MI lines in place of the movie themed lines to offer different product to the consumer. get it? over production is never a good idea, neither is ignoring your consumer base, if you made pens for a living, only red and blue pens, and you noticed that all of your blue pens consistently sold out and you only sold half of you're red pens. would you continue producing the same numbers of both? would you still ship the same number of cases of both to retailers? and I can't believe that a product has to sell completely out for Target to replenish there stock, you would think the store would only have one of anything after a wile!

ukmu 06-06-2014 10:00 AM

^^^^^
What is wrong with black pens???

;)

kylactus 06-06-2014 10:04 AM

I find them to be uppity and pretentious.

Jmacq1 06-06-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 532724)
no, it won't "help movie toy sales" but if the same movie product has four cases peg warming, and the comic based figures are always sold out maybe, just maybe that could be an indicator to the company (in this case Hasbro) that they need to diversify there offerings, or at least shift there ratios to avoid market saturation. to put it simply if they produced half the number of movie figure for any line, they would have sold out therefore improving there numbers, and they could have put MI lines in place of the movie themed lines to offer different product to the consumer. get it? over production is never a good idea, neither is ignoring your consumer base, if you made pens for a living, only red and blue pens, and you noticed that all of your blue pens consistently sold out and you only sold half of you're red pens. would you continue producing the same numbers of both? would you still ship the same number of cases of both to retailers? and I can't believe that a product has to sell completely out for Target to replenish there stock, you would think the store would only have one of anything after a wile!

This argument sounds good on its' face, but fails to account for the fact that Hasbro and retailers have had several years to see just how Marvel Universe/"Comic Oriented Product" does and doesn't sell, and then presumes that the low production and distribution of said product is an oversight rather than deliberate based on that data.

In other words, if Marvel Legends and Marvel Universe were these sure-fire mega-hot sellers that you seem to think they are in the grand scheme of things...Hasbro WOULDN'T be struggling to keep the lines on shelves at all. Instead, they know about how much of the stuff they can sell, and produce just enough to keep that limited demand high.

If they started shipping Marvel Universe and Marvel Legends at half the volume of the movie lines, I guarantee that Marvel Universe and Marvel Legends would be pegwarming too. Action figures as a whole are in the crapper right now, with only TMNT as a particularly bright spot (and I figure that's got 6 months to a year before it fizzles out and the current kid audience ages out of it).

trebleshot 06-06-2014 11:37 AM

^ Agreed.

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Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 532724)
and I can't believe that a product has to sell completely out for Target to replenish there stock, you would think the store would only have one of anything after a wile!

You misunderstand. Not when they sell out, just when they have empty pegs. Basically, my Target could be sitting on 4 cases of MI figures in the stock room right now. But they won't put any of those out yet because the 2 pegs allotted for MU/MI still have 12 figures on it. Once that number gets low enough (or empty), then they will probably put out one or two cases to refill the pegs.

Conversely, they could be sitting on 3 more cases of MU wave 5 revisions instead. If that's true, then I probably won't see MI at that store for quite a while.

Nymesys Prime 06-06-2014 11:38 AM

Well we all see how MonsterHigh and EverAfter dolls are selling...even with bundles on the shelf these things move and rarely have a sale or clearance going on.(not counting the basic dolls of wave1)


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