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protostar8 05-17-2016 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 658865)
Hard to say exactly how much better it is based on pictures (but Trunks is out soon, he'll be a good example) but from the pictures you'll notice that the whole hip area is much better, a pose like the one featured in the picture posted by Joe above is much harder to pull off with the old figure, if it even works.

http://i.imgur.com/IXxy2bd.jpg
(Left is the new figure, old one on the right)

Second the shoulders are probably a huge deal, the old ones are good but the new ones are even better. The Awakening Goku had shoulders like these and they are great. You can't really tell in the pictures though, that's more a thing you'll realize once you have him in hand.

Third, the torso. The old Super Vegeta had no articulation in the abdomen, only at the cut between the armor and the lower body. This new one has a balljoint (or maybe even two) inside the armor which means you can articulate the torso much better.

http://i.imgur.com/ikOzTzj.jpg
(Same deal as above)

Very nice details!

dCon 05-17-2016 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 658845)
Same here.



Eh... I'm too grumpy to be optimistic :DBZ2

And that Trunks comes with a regular head is exactly what makes me even more mad about this, Vegeta should have one too. And the initial pictures for Trunks clearly showcased the regular head, so... eh.

If he does come with a regular head I'll be really happy, if not... well in that case I was right.

I'm pretty sure I remember fans talking about whether if he will or if he won't come with his purple hair the first pics. I definitely wouldn't count accessories out yet sometimes they hold thay info for one reason or another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 658853)
Better sculpt, better proportions, more articulation.

The old Super Vegeta is nice and all, but the mold is terribly outdated. This new one looks much better and features more articulation.

Using the Trunks body is a good thing, even though it's technically not a reuse since Vegeta is smaller and his body proportions are different. It just looks similar because well they're wearing the same armor and they probably used the same armor for Vegeta. The rest of the body is just blue paint anyways. So more of a retool than a reuse.

And why is it a thing? Easily retooled figure people will buy because it’s much better than the old Super Vegeta, that’s why.

Yes to his ab articulation being more but definitely not more articulation in the hips. Just different. Still has as many points with even less range in certain poses. It's basically like the awakening goku ' hips.

Granted I really like the hips more and be glad to trade in this body style for my super sayian Vegeta once they give him black hair. IF this comes with his powered down hair I'll buy it then. It probably won't though but I really don't see how we can know that yet.

vriverajr3 05-17-2016 05:55 PM

Don't know why people keep saying this is Super Vegeta. This is NOT Super Vegeta. I'ts just a updated better version of his SS1 form. Super Vegeta is way bulkier just like how Goku and Trunks get in their "super" form. Google "Super Vegeta" or youtube "Super Vegeta" and you'll see it's not even close to being the same

I'm a bit pissed that they would release this better updated version not even a year apart from the premium color version. I would have just waited to buy this instead if I would have known. But I'm pretty sure know one would have thought they'd pull off a douche move like this. I'll most likely try and sell my premium color version and use that money to get this one.

I also wish they would have just skipped this and released a Buu saga Vegeta instead. It's something a lot of people wanted and they easily could have thrown in a Majin Vegeta head in their as well.

But on a positive note, the figure looks amazing with the updated more accurate body mold. I also love the hair color and faces on this one way more than the premium Vegeta. Hopefully we get normal black hair. Probably not, but I can wish. Definitely looking forward to picking this one up though.

Dr Kain 05-17-2016 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 658825)
Because Tamashii was smart and you were impatient.

Impatient? I only waited like 3 years to get one, and I wasn't even in that much of a hurry since it has been sitting in my PoL since Jan.

RamenRider 05-18-2016 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginalFire (Post 658882)
Thanks for the highly detailed response

You're welcome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dCon (Post 658889)
I'm pretty sure I remember fans talking about whether if he will or if he won't come with his purple hair the first pics. I definitely wouldn't count accessories out yet sometimes they hold thay info for one reason or another.

Yeah but the first time we saw Trunks was on display at some toy show, wasn't it? They only had one figure so the only way to show of the alternate head would’ve been to just put a disembodied head in the cabinet. Or have a second Trunks with the other head but that takes too much space.

On the official pictures the head was displayed, with Vegeta that's not the case.

But you're right; you should never rule something out entirely until you know all the details. I'm just saying the odds are not in our favor here :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by dCon (Post 658889)
Yes to his ab articulation being more but definitely not more articulation in the hips. Just different. Still has as many points with even less range in certain poses. It's basically like the awakening goku ' hips.

Correct, I just counted it as better articulation because the hips themselves are better made; it does not have extra joints. Thanks for correcting me on that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vriverajr3 (Post 658894)
Don't know why people keep saying this is Super Vegeta. This is NOT Super Vegeta.

Technically you're right, but the Tamashii Website calls this figure "Super Vegeta", that's why I referred to it as such. That, and I was too lazy to write out "Super Saiyan" :p

Augustus_Cole 05-18-2016 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginalFire (Post 658882)
Thanks for the highly detailed response

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 658853)
Better sculpt, better proportions, more articulation.

The old Super Vegeta is nice and all, but the mold is terribly outdated. This new one looks much better and features more articulation.

Using the Trunks body is a good thing, even though it's technically not a reuse since Vegeta is smaller and his body proportions are different. It just looks similar because well they're wearing the same armor and they probably used the same armor for Vegeta. The rest of the body is just blue paint anyways. So more of a retool than a reuse.

And why is it a thing? Easily retooled figure people will buy because it’s much better than the old Super Vegeta, that’s why.

Got it..and i understand...and i normally purchase every fig that comes out but....eh....Im not sold and def not excited about this one...a new Cell or a reissue Cell or a Buu PLEASSSSSSSE...
or the mightiest of them all....Yajirobi!!!

RamenRider 05-18-2016 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 658908)
Got it..and i understand...and i normally purchase every fig that comes out but....eh....Im not sold and def not excited about this one...a new Cell or a reissue Cell or a Buu PLEASSSSSSSE...
or the mightiest of them all....Yajirobi!!!

I hear you; something new would've been way cooler than another Vegeta. Would love to get Buu, no matter which one. And Yajirobi... why not, he's a funny character and it would be something different body-wise instead of another muscle dude.

Also, while we’re talking about something "cooler" than Vegeta, that’s exactly the figure I’ve been dreaming of: Cooler! :D I would love to see a Final Form Cooler SHF someday.

And don't worry, if you already have a Super Saiyan Vegeta SHF and/or you don’t feel like buying this one then don't. That's your decision and a perfectly rational one too IMO. Save your money for something else.

protostar8 05-19-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 658908)
Got it..and i understand...and i normally purchase every fig that comes out but....eh....Im not sold and def not excited about this one...a new Cell or a reissue Cell or a Buu PLEASSSSSSSE...
or the mightiest of them all....Yajirobi!!!


I'm waiting on that Buu they showed off awhile back personally. Or the SSJ4 Goku. Either of them would have been preferable to another Vegeta release.

Joe Moore 05-30-2016 10:17 AM

Product Page Live For DBZ Super Saiyan Vegeta SH Figuarts Using New Body Style - The Toyark - News

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/up...guarts-005.jpg

RamenRider 05-30-2016 10:39 AM

Item page confirms it, no regular, non Super Saiyan head included. Which means no purchase from me.

Figure looks awesome, but I want the option to display a basic Vegeta, not just the Super Saiyan one.

And Trunks comes with a regular head option but not Vegeta? That’s bad comedy.

Augustus_Cole 05-30-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 660452)
Item page confirms it, no regular, non Super Saiyan head included. Which means no purchase from me.

Figure looks awesome, but I want the option to display a basic Vegeta, not just the Super Saiyan one.

And Trunks comes with a regular head option but not Vegeta? That’s bad comedy.

Maybe that one'll (with the regular head) go up for pre-order next month...right??

I want to see the this Vegeta and the one that just came out a couple months ago side by side.
AND...is that side by side with Trunks some photo trickery (if they have the same body) or is he actually shorter than trunks??

RamenRider 05-30-2016 11:09 AM

@Joe Moore: Price is still wrong by the way, it's 5,616¥, not 8,616.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 660456)
Maybe that one'll (with the regular head) go up for pre-order next month...right??

As a Web-Exclusive! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 660456)
I want to see the this Vegeta and the one that just came out a couple months ago side by side.

Can do: Left is the "Premium Color" version of the old mold released last December, right is the new, upcoming mold.

http://i.imgur.com/Npbbcex.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 660456)
AND...is that side by side with Trunks some photo trickery (if they have the same body) or is he actually shorter than trunks??

Actually shorter, as he should be. Trunks is 140mm (normal SHF size), Vegeta is 135mm.

As I said last time we were talking about this, it's not a reused body with a new head, they retooled the body.

Augustus_Cole 05-30-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 660462)
@Joe Moore: Price is still wrong by the way, it's 5,616¥, not 8,616.



As a Web-Exclusive! :D



Can do: Left is the "Premium Color" version of the old mold released last December, right is the new, upcoming mold.

http://i.imgur.com/Npbbcex.jpg



Actually shorter, as he should be. Trunks is 140mm (normal SHF size), Vegeta is 135mm.

As I said last time we were talking about this, it's not a reused body with a new head, they retooled the body.




Hmmmmm....while yeah...it's a definite improvement... I (right now, because i may be struck with stupidity later) can't justify spending that much on a figure that is THAT close to my original.

and damn...thanks for the comparison so fast...

GhostOfSomeone 05-30-2016 11:46 AM

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The price in this post is wrong... It shows it as being $50 not $78.
"Price:5,616JPY (8% tax included)
Release date:October, 2016
Targeted Age:15 years old and older"

magma169 05-30-2016 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 660452)
Item page confirms it, no regular, non Super Saiyan head included. Which means no purchase from me.

Figure looks awesome, but I want the option to display a basic Vegeta, not just the Super Saiyan one.

And Trunks comes with a regular head option but not Vegeta? That’s bad comedy.

I still wouldnt be too sure about this. Premium color Trunks was stated in the product page as NOT having a powered-down "stern-looking" face (this was a major issue with the purchase cause I loved that expression). I still pre-ordered it cause I love the character though.
However, I was pleasantly surprised when the figure actually got released as the extra head was there ! I kid you not, the info in the pre-order page were wrong.
So I am still not 100% sure it will include only the heads/accessories they state at this point.

FYI, this is the head I am talking about:
http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/up...-Trunks-08.jpg

In the pre-order images he was only stated to have, the SSJ heads and this one
http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/up...-Trunks-10.jpg

RamenRider 05-31-2016 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkToyLord (Post 660467)
and damn...thanks for the comparison so fast...

You're welcome :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by magma169 (Post 660567)
I still wouldnt be too sure about this. Premium color Trunks was stated in the product page as NOT having a powered-down "stern-looking" face (this was a major issue with the purchase cause I loved that expression).

But the product page for that Trunks figure does mention that 4 faces are included. Vegeta's page says nothing about alternate faces or an alternate head.

It has happened to me (once) that a Figuart came with an accessory not pictured on the website, but after looking it up it was listed on the product page. And that was only one weapon they had already sculpted for a different figure but said weapon was also used by this particular character so they threw it in because they could.

I find it hard to believe that something important as an alternate is not shown or listed but ends up in the box anyways.

If they plan to include that feature but are not ready to show it yet they would drop a teaser and list it on the product page.

TimespliTT 05-31-2016 06:34 PM

dammit hobbysearch. you said 4 pm japan time... its not 4 pm japan time and yet youre sold out

snake5289 06-07-2016 08:09 PM

Think I'll wait and get this version. Looks a lot better IMO.

tehlonginator 10-06-2016 10:54 PM

I think I want to pre-order this even though I have the premium color format being shipped to me right now...

Edit: Welp, preordered it from SHFiguarts, but their site linked me over to Amazon.com. Would ordering off .com be a problem if I'm in Canada? It wasn't listed on .ca.

Was the $75 final I was quoted in USD, or CAD?


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