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Poison Shadow 03-21-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut209 (Post 701282)
I just finished Iron Fist on Netflix, and while it wasn't awful it is hard to argue that it isn't a failure. First, I guess the writers come from the “tell, never show” school of writing television, because all exposition is given in dialogue. I could hardly believe that it ended before we ever see the oft-mentioned K'un-Lun or even the monastery where Danny lived aside from a few fleeting flashes of memory. I understand that early on they wanted to toy with the possibility of him being crazy, but in the end it just felt low budget.

But what is really unforgiveable is the lackluster martial arts on display. No one really moves convincingly, like the actors they hired just couldn’t get it down, and the showrunners decided to just keep going. Nameless minions could get away with that, but Finn Jones needed to have it down. The fighting here should be more impressive than it was in Daredevil, but instead it is far inferior.

See my previous post. There seem to be some clear (and very unfortunate) reasons for Iron Fist's faults.

donmeca2020 03-21-2017 08:35 AM

I don't see where all the negativity for the show is coming... i last left off on episode 7, it's entertaining me, i feel the action and fight scenes are on par with DD,
AND LC. These are all on a netflix budget, hell i thought i saw one scene on iron fist that looked like it was in daredevil season 1 as well. However to say the show is horrible, is simply someone's own personal view. The only other thing i feel it's lacking, as i said prior he doesn't dawn the mask.

Oh and thank god they didn't do as the internet whiners wanted and change him into a asian guy, which would have made no sense what so ever.

Exodus 03-21-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 701094)
Yep, Colleen Wing's always been Asian, she just very often gets drawn more like a white person for some reason.

I always thought she was white actually haha in the comics, probably due to her "white costume".

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 701126)
I also thought Luke Cage should have been longer, especially for Diamondback's material. I think we needed a bit more time fleshing out his relationship with Luke. Cottonmouth actually surprised me as an intriguing villain (at first I assumed it was the Serpent Society member) and I would have preferred that he stuck around longer as I am a big fan of Mahershala Ali's work.

Ooh I don't, I think it could have been shorter haha same with the JJ series too.

Also it'll be interesting how they'll pair up Colleen with Misty Knight in the show. There seems to be kind of an age gap between them...

En Sabah Nerd 03-22-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 701315)
Ooh I don't, I think it could have been shorter haha same with the JJ series too.

Yeah I know you're right but since they insisted on cramming so much in towards the end it was lackluster to have minimal explanations. Jessica Jones definitely could've been shorter since they did their proper explanation parts ahead of the finale and so far where I am into Iron Fist it feels the same.

AugustusCole 04-05-2017 02:03 PM

I wasn't a big fan of the Iron Fist show. However I am looking forward to the Defenders which I believe will begin in August.

Exodus 04-10-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AugustusCole (Post 703032)
I wasn't a big fan of the Iron Fist show. However I am looking forward to the Defenders which I believe will begin in August.

Yeah hopefully it'll be good. LC and IF wasn't really good IMO. IF is getting more annoyingly cry baby to me each episode I get into :P The rest of cast/characters are great though. Colleen and Joy is smoking hot!

Thor Laserpunch 05-15-2017 02:52 PM

I am trying like hell to slog my way through Iron Fist but I have trouble finding the motivation. I'll watch it it if I want to stay awake for another hour. I usually don't make it. I really haven't bonded to it, and the lead dude looks like he oughta be in a boy band or something.

All the other Marvel Netflix titles I think are doing a great job.

Exodus 05-17-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor Laserpunch (Post 708339)
I am trying like hell to slog my way through Iron Fist but I have trouble finding the motivation. I'll watch it it if I want to stay awake for another hour. I usually don't make it. I really haven't bonded to it, and the lead dude looks like he oughta be in a boy band or something.

All the other Marvel Netflix titles I think are doing a great job.

Haha yeah that's how I was with LC though...

Weapon X 05-17-2017 10:03 AM

I finished it recently.

I really loved it up until about Episode 7.

Then it just became shit. The ending was shit. The twists were shit. Everything shit.

But I still think as a whole it's more entertaining to watch than Luke Cage. I would rather watch Transformers than watch that shit again.

Weapon X 05-17-2017 10:07 AM

I have this impending sense that the Defenders is going to suck.

But, at least they cut down the episode count to 8. They need to do that on all the shows, the length is affecting their quality.

Il Cattivo 05-17-2017 02:27 PM

the dd team is doing the defenders. it'll be fine. the inhumans is the one I'm a bit worried about since its the same showrunner that did ironfist.

lordbest 05-17-2017 04:40 PM

I think they should cancel any plans for a second season of Iron Fist and make Daughters of th Dragon starring Misty Kknight, Colleen Wing and Claire Temple. Wing and Temple were the only good parts of IF.

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Originally Posted by Il Cattivo (Post 708618)
the dd team is doing the defenders. it'll be fine. the inhumans is the one I'm a bit worried about since its the same showrunner that did ironfist.

I hope they put more effort into the Defenders story than they did for DD season two.

Weapon X 05-17-2017 06:06 PM

@lordbest, I get that the daughters of the dragon thing happened in the comics, but it would be so out of place in the show. Those two don't know each other and have nothing in common.

@Il Cattivo that's really weird, given that Inhumans looks to have the ABC Christmas movie aesthetic where as Iron Fist has the grungy Netflix feel.

lordbest 05-17-2017 10:01 PM

Wing and Temple know each other from Iron Fist, Temple knows Knight and Knight will probably meet Wing in Defenders. It's not much of a stretch and it couldn't be any worse than Iron Fist, or season two of Daredevil

Weapon X 05-18-2017 12:29 AM

Dude, Daredevil Season 2 was awesome.



EDIT: my post count has reached 666.....ominous :P

lordbest 05-18-2017 01:54 AM

The first half of the season was excellent if you ignore the fact they decided to write Matt to be a completely selfish arsehole in defiance of how they established his character in S1. The second half was pointless drivel with a plot that could be boiled down to "Ninjas are cool and look! They are doing shady things!"

Weapon X 05-18-2017 11:13 AM

The second half was the best part.

The whole season was excellent. It was all much improved from Season 1. Season 2 set the standard for all the Netflix shows.

lordbest 05-18-2017 07:55 PM

It really was none of those things.

Il Cattivo 05-18-2017 08:24 PM

the elektra episodes in the middle section were the weakest part of season 2 imo. the rest were great.
me watching the first four episodes http://i.imgur.com/tK42MU0.gif

but...season 1 > season 2:D

Weapon X 06-07-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 708779)
It really was none of those things.

You're just wrong. It's okay, we're all wrong sometimes. :cool:

snake5289 06-07-2017 07:13 PM

The Punisher stuff was excellent but the stuff with The Hand was good too. The Hospital raid or whatever you wanna call it was intense.

I still need to check out the other shows. I've only seen Daredevil.

Weapon X 06-07-2017 07:17 PM

@snake, if I only had to recommend one, I'd say Jessica Jones

snake5289 06-07-2017 10:04 PM

I'm definitely going to watch all of them it's just finding the time to get around to it.

Weapon X 06-08-2017 12:01 AM

Yeah, they can be a chore especially if you're not feeling the vibe of the show.

Exodus 06-12-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X (Post 711371)
@snake, if I only had to recommend one, I'd say Jessica Jones

Eh, that show was ok, it was a lil too whiny for me though going towards the end of the season.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapon X (Post 711388)
Yeah, they can be a chore especially if you're not feeling the vibe of the show.

Haha yeah they are NC was definitely a chore for me. JJ was starting too after the first few episodes and IF was somewhat bearable. DD season 2 was great though.


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