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Dolemite 07-17-2017 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 717010)
They had to pay for those likeness rights. Just as they did for Weller's Alex Murphy likeness. and they apparently were not cheap.
Okay, evilekim's post was confusing. So you can have the rights to make merchandise for certain movies, but that may not always include the actual likenesses of the actors themselves; in those instances, you'd have to work it out with the individual actors on a case-by-case basis (such as Michael J. Fox, etc). Correct?

En Sabah Nerd 07-17-2017 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 717010)
They had to pay for those likeness rights. Just as they did for Weller's Alex Murphy likeness. and they apparently were not cheap.
Plus Jack Nicholson for Joker which apparently cost a small fortune from hear-say.
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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 717029)
So you can have the rights to make merchandise for certain movies, but that may not always include the actual likenesses of the actors themselves; in those instances, you'd have to work it out with the individual actors on a case-by-case basis (such as Michael J. Fox, etc). Correct?
Yup. Star Wars for example, George Lucas was clever and made all the actors include their likeness rights for the film in their contracts for merchandise. Alien and Predator on the other hand never made their actors do any such thing so NECA has to go actor to actor for rights. The crappy thing then is that acquiring an actor's likeness for use on one project doesn't necessarily grant use of the likeness for any and all projects the actor has been in, hence we got figures of Apollo Creed but not Dillon. Creatures such as the Alien or predators have no likeness to an actual person though so the rights to those are included with the license.

evilekim 07-17-2017 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 717029)
Okay, evilekim's post was confusing. So you can have the rights to make merchandise for certain movies, but that may not always include the actual likenesses of the actors themselves; in those instances, you'd have to work it out with the individual actors on a case-by-case basis (such as Michael J. Fox, etc). Correct?
Confusing? Dude it's like this for so many movies. NECA would've done many more characters by now. Rocky III (Hulk Hogan) Predator (Carl Weathers) Robocop (Weller) the list goes on and on. It's even worse when the actor dies. You have to try and get likeness rights from their estate.

WastelandAngel 07-17-2017 03:10 PM
At first I was like wtf??? But the more I see it, the more it grows on me.

derek 07-17-2017 03:17 PM
Well ordered it. That was a no brainier.

Dr Kain 07-17-2017 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunathar (Post 716998)
Because this:
Sorry, I don't buy it. They can release the character and just alter the face so it isn't 100% accurate to the actor. They had no problem doing this with Hicks and Hudson.

Tim 07-17-2017 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 717070)
Sorry, I don't buy it. They can release the character and just alter the face so it isn't 100% accurate to the actor. They had no problem doing this with Hicks and Hudson.
They didn't do that with Hicks nor Hudson. They're both supposed to be 100% accurate to the actor. I think both Hicks and Hudson are excellent figures and Excellent Likeness.

Tim 07-17-2017 05:11 PM
I am soooo Getting this guy he is a welcomed surprise. it's such a cool idea Neca had.

Gunathar 07-17-2017 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim (Post 717072)
They didn't do that with Hicks nor Hudson. They're both supposed to be 100% accurate to the actor. I think both Hicks and Hudson are excellent figures and Excellent Likeness.
I concur. The "Game over, man" expression on Hudson is dead-on IMHO and the main reason I bought the figure.

Gunathar 07-17-2017 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 717009)
Actually, didn't Cameron allow the actors in the movie to customize their own armor? If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron himself had a hand in designing this figure's duds.
If I were in his shoes, that's exactly what I'd do!

OGTrilogy 07-17-2017 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 717035)
Plus Jack Nicholson for Joker which apparently cost a small fortune from hear-say.

Yup. Star Wars for example, George Lucas was clever and made all the actors include their likeness rights for the film in their contracts for merchandise. Alien and Predator on the other hand never made their actors do any such thing so NECA has to go actor to actor for rights. The crappy thing then is that acquiring an actor's likeness for use on one project doesn't necessarily grant use of the likeness for any and all projects the actor has been in, hence we got figures of Apollo Creed but not Dillon. Creatures such as the Alien or predators have no likeness to an actual person though so the rights to those are included with the license.
I think that's true about the Jack Nicholson Joker figure from Hot Toys. Hot Toys are expensive anyway, but that particular Joker was way more expensive because they had to give Jack so much money for his likeness. I have the Hot Toys Keaton Batman and he cost $50 or $60 less than Joker would have cost me at my LCS.

Unhinged1983 07-18-2017 01:50 AM
Not overly excited by this one, but I went ahead and ordered it anyway, lol

Dr Kain 07-18-2017 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunathar (Post 717087)
I concur. The "Game over, man" expression on Hudson is dead-on IMHO and the main reason I bought the figure.
Game Over Man face? Hudson's face looks like he is trying to take a crap so hard that he went crosseyed.

Gunathar 07-18-2017 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 717175)
Game Over Man face? Hudson's face looks like he is trying to take a crap so hard that he went crosseyed.
Really? I look at these photos and see a famous scene from the movie:

https://i2.wp.com/thefwoosh.com/wp-c...size=592%2C333

https://i2.wp.com/thefwoosh.com/wp-c...size=592%2C333

For me, that is art in action figure form.

SpasticPlastic 07-19-2017 11:11 AM
I agree, Gunathar, but I also know that arguing with Dr. Komplaint is an exercise in futility.

Ezilla82 07-19-2017 01:34 PM
Man, I bet James Cameron is getting a big fat check in the mail for his likeness in this line.

Krunomo 07-20-2017 03:17 PM
They should have done him in a duty uniform like Gorman was wearing when he was first introduced to Ripley. This would guarantee more sales as people would buy it for customs. You could make custom marines in their duty attire which is something we wouldnt get as it isn't scene specific. Also it would have meant Gorman would have been more or less done pending likeness rights for his head.

Also, Cameron needs a haircut. That's not a regulation hair cut lol.

Joe Moore 10-20-2017 09:56 AM

xenofanlv426 10-20-2017 10:07 AM
Wah hoo

Gunathar 10-20-2017 10:38 AM
His armor is graffiti-free so... Custom fodder!

He's got a Canada flag on his left shoulder, plus his head looks a bit like mine. What more could I ask for to make myself into a Colonial Marine figure? I'll be the king of my collection world!:p

Seriously though I wonder what a signed one would go for on eBay...

SpasticPlastic 11-18-2017 05:52 PM
Has anyone seen these in TRU yet?

SpasticPlastic 02-13-2018 02:33 PM
Sorry to resurrect a dead thread. I still have had zero luck finding this. Never showed up on TRU's site and the only ones on eBay are knockoffs from China. Did he ever even hit stores?


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