Originally Posted by Brownfinger (Post 779991)

That's fantastic news.
Getting a little bit further into the show after work, and it's increasingly better. Add Sea Hawk's name to the list of figures that I want.

Originally Posted by webz (Post 780025)

As for a toy line... no, I’m not sold on the line enough for toys. The character designs are so simple that toys would look cheap.

Originally Posted by Bo Ttef (Post 780042)

I think She-Ra toys would fit right in with the slew of girls action figures pegwarming the toy aisle now- As far as the show, mark me down in the "not very impressed" side of the She-Ra debate. It just feels very generic and sloppily animated. Not that I was a fan of the original- It was a "girl's" cartoon like Jem and Rainbow Bright, I had no interest in it. But I also despised Filmation animation and their entire take on MOTU anyways- so there wasn't much to draw me to She-Ra. BUT- the 2000X Masters reboot was beautifully drawn and had compelling stories- SheRa at least deserved something that looked as good- it's sad how far TV animation has fallen in such a short time. (that's an old man opinion, i know- I'm sure kids look at animation from my day the same way I looked at those weirdly animated old school black and white toons like MikeyMouse and Popeye- lol. Anyways- I'm sure kids today will love She-Ra, and then promptly forget they ever saw it as it just blends right in with (almost)everything else animated today

Originally Posted by DirkMaximus (Post 780041)

stop I can't roll my eyes hard enough to keep up with the hot takes

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 780026)

Something should be able to be enjoyed by kids AND adults regardless of who it is primarily aimed at. If it's not, then it is insulting the intelligence of a child.

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 780028)

I don't agree on this point at all. The designs are no more simple than the originals were, and they are far more individual. In the original Glimmer, Angella and Castaspella were basically distinguishable only by colour and hairstyle.

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 780053)

You can set your watch to how just about any thread dealing with these sorts of properties is gonna go.

Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 779898)

If it fails, it will be because there is no advertising. WHY is this the first time I’m hearing about this? Where does it air? Are the designs at least farmilliar, or did they go all ninja turtley with it and make some bizarre teen titans doodle sketch bullshit clone? If it’s any good I’m in. Hell if enough people like it it might roll into the whole MOTU universe, even a new toy line.

Originally Posted by kollekxon (Post 779911)

My kids have watched most of the "old" He-Man and She-Ra shows. They liked them. We all tried this new version of She-Ra. I've watched 3 episodes and stopped. I hated it.
My oldest thinks it sucks and my youngest thinks its great.

I just cant get behind the changes made to these character's. I don't care about how they are drawn -this style is OK, but what bugs me most is the changes to the character's overall appearance and their demeanor. I see it as another crappy attempt to capitalize on an 80's property.


Edit: just wanted to add that even in episode 1, that Adora as a character doesn't make sense.
She does Fantastic in the training room to the point that she's overpowered. Her team are failures, why bother having them - what gives? Glimmer can teleport with Bow earlier, but isn't able to get herself and the others away from the insect creature. Just so they can accidentally find the entrance? Then for me there is the issue with these Princesses - Plural mind you - are these evil people. What so there's no dictionary. Also whats with the Sword.... I better stop.

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 780043)

The problem with animation today is that it's too streamlined and minimalistic, which to an extent is understandable since you gotta crank these shows out quick, but it still makes cartoons blend together after awhile since there's no WOW factor to the animation.

Originally Posted by Brownfinger (Post 780064)

It's pretty pathetic.
"This cartoon that is made for little girls does not cater to my specific interests as a lonely adult male!"

And some dudes I've talked to and seen have been cool with it, they get that it's not for them. For people drooling over the original, it still exists for your own brand of uhhhh enjoyment.

Originally Posted by Madame Warlock (Post 780081)

Like I watched the original She-Ra movie and I think anyone seriously saying that the new show "ruins" the characters is being disingenuous because they barely were characters in the first place. I respect She-Ra for what it was at the time and it kind of helped push the whole magical girl warrior type thing to a western audience even before Sailor Moon was a thing, but very little in the original show is all that consistent or makes sense. Me and my friend were trying to keep track of the two swords and got very confused. The voice acting was super dodgy & grating and could only have appealed to very small children, whereas modern She-Ra clearly appeals to a wide range of ages.

And I'm someone who disliked how the Transformers were changed for the movie franchise. But in cases like this, it feels more like a positive change.



like tbh if you look at a lot of shows in the 80s the animation was pretty terrible. She-Ra definitely has overlap with the likes of Steven Universe et. all especially in the background art but IMO it has it's own distinct style going on that draws more from indie comic art than anything.

Also IMO I can see toys for this doing better than DC Superhero girls if it takes off. The problem with the DC Super Hero Girl stuff is that it feels like yet another attempt to cash in on Monster High/Ever After type stuff and while girls are definitely more into super hero stuff a lot of girls characters were already becoming increasingly much more heroic. I think the main issue is that the supporting media just isn't there yet. The Monster High stuff was actually pretty unique and fun for it's time whereas there's a strong element of "Why don't I just watch old teen titans/young justice episodes" to it. That said I think it probably did better than people suspect - it's just that it's been out a couple of years now and has gotten stale. They really needed to release a lot more supporting media than they did.


I like the Assessment that She-Ra feels like it's own "thing". I don't see the problem with more cartoonish looking toys, there's ways to capture that style well. I remember people felt the same with TF Animated but some of those toys were actually quite fun. I feel like it's a more solid concept with a lot of longevity compared to DCSHG. They can keep going on with it and eventually work in more MOTU stuff to draw in a boys audience as well, though I suspect the end goal is to see less gendered stuff in general and get boys girls and otherwise inclined watching both.

Originally Posted by webz (Post 780058)

I disagree. He-man and She-ra talk to kids at the level of a 6 to 8 year old. It’s only slightly more complex than Sesame Street. I find that perfectly ok. When my son was 6, he loved the he-man reruns on Qubo. I can’t stand them now, but as a 6 year old in the mid 80s, I loved he-man.

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 779936)

So are there any pictures of Hordak, Leech, Mantenna, and Grizzlor yet? All I can find are Cattra, Scorpina, and a not even close to terrifying looking Shadow Weaver.

Originally Posted by Madame Warlock (Post 780144)

I don't understand how anyone could think that the new Shadow Weaver is somehow less scary than the pink burka from the original

Originally Posted by Madame Warlock (Post 780144)

I don't understand how anyone could think that the new Shadow Weaver is somehow less scary than the pink burka from the original