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LightDaggers 02-18-2019 02:20 PM

It sad how cheap and awful Mattel's DC figures have always looked.

Boy Blunder 02-18-2019 03:21 PM

I just want to see the rest of the product revealed last year to get released. Specifically all those Titans figures.

Is there any word that they might have been axed?

webz 02-18-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister D (Post 789862)
1) Very few scientists have made the claim that all dinos had feathers. The evidence has long been there for the small theropods, and some question about larger ones, but feathered sauropods, duckbills, or armored dinos were never widely believed to be feathered. So, for the most part, the JW line is ok.

2) This is the Jurassic World toyline. The toys are meant to be accurate to the movie, so if you have complaints about the scientific accuracy of a sub-par Hollywood blockbuster, go to Speilberg. The toys do what they should - provide a fun experience for kids who enjoy the JW films, and are the best main stream, kid-oriented dinosaur toys in a long time, maybe ever. More importantly to the toy industry, they have been successful. There is still a significant amount of shelf space dedicated to the toyline, long after most such movie tie ins (like Rampage, or Black Panther) have vanished.

3) If you want a good, accurate, feathered dino line, check out Creative Beasts studios, and support their upcoming (non-feathered) line of Ceratopsians. https://creative-beast.com/product-c...SAAEgKmMvD_BwE

My issue with Jurassic World is it came out a decade after the last film, and while being a “sequel” to Jurassic Park, it really was a reboot of sorts. It was the first movie of its kind for many kids, and got them watching the originals. Children today are taught in school that raptors and many other species had feathers. I will be in the toy aisle at Walmart and I’ve heard actual REAL children pass on the raptor toys because “that’s not how they are supposed to look”. If all these other franchises can update to stay relevant to today’s youth, why can’t the Jurassic franchise? I’m thrilled the line adds “oddballs” like Herrerasaurus, Baryonyx, etc, but Ceratosaurus looks like a troll. T. Rex still has the atrocious head that was elongated and rounded to give her a sympathetic, dog-like quality that Spielberg wanted in the first movie almost 30 years ago. I really believe it’s a horrible misjudgment on Universal’s part and Mattel’s. When the first Jurassic Park came out, many people’s ideas of dinosaurs at that time were the lumbering, tail dragging beasts of Land Before Time, 10,000 BC, and Arthur Conan Doyle’s Lost World. Many parents and particularly grandparents were learning a new way to see dinosaurs. Jurassic World could have done that for modern audiences. Instead, it chose to stick with the Jaws: Revenge model, and it was all the poorer for doing so.

As for creative beasts, yes, I have several of his raptors and can’t wait for the ceratopsian Kickstarter to begin.

redfox 02-18-2019 03:32 PM

Any news about the 6in. Jurassic World/Park figures that were revealed at SDCC??

webz 02-18-2019 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfox (Post 789958)
Any news about the 6in. Jurassic World/Park figures that were revealed at SDCC??

Nothing I saw in any of the two dozen YouTube videos covering the events, hopefully more news at SDCC. would love to have a 6” scale Ian Malcolm.

redfox 02-18-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 789959)
Nothing I saw in any of the two dozen YouTube videos covering the events, hopefully more news at SDCC. would love to have a 6” scale Ian Malcolm.

No news is disappointing. Really want Grant, Sattler, Malcolm, and some generic raptors from the first film. Here's to hoping for more news at SDCC.

dukefett 02-18-2019 03:53 PM

I don't know how they don't have a single "Legacy" Jurassic Park thing to display. Lego didn't have anything either, at least we got the 1 set. Are there likeness rights issues or something?

webz 02-18-2019 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukefett (Post 789965)
I don't know how they don't have a single "Legacy" Jurassic Park thing to display. Lego didn't have anything either, at least we got the 1 set. Are there likeness rights issues or something?

Doubtful. The nice things about the first JP movie was the characters and the actors were “normal people”... so they don’t have to have a scanned face of Jeff Goldblum. A reasonable likeness would be fine. Similar to the kids of the Stranger Things toys. They look the part well enough without being scanned sculpts of the kid actors.

I just googled the last pics of the 6” figures. Yeah, they are sculpted and painted to look similar, but not scanned faces like Starwars, Hot Toys or some of the Mediacom figures,.. so I don’t think it’s a likeness issue.

mort 02-18-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venkman182 (Post 789935)
Same here. Lot of the Icons figures were pretty good but I didn't care for their Stewart one either. The Multiverse prototype though I liked. Same with the prototypes for Starfire & Wally. Well Wally to an extent, face could use some work but its the fact that it's a figure of both his new costume & it being an obvious Wally, not just the same ol' Flash suit that you could say about anyone could be wearing.

I'll say this though, while expensive, that Mezco Stewart is sick! Not to mention the Jordan figure. Best GL figure's I've ever seen.

I'm thinking about picking one of those One:12 guys up. My only complaint is the weirdly-stylized costumes the Mezco figures have sometimes... especially with the GLs. Reminds me of the 2011 movie.

Cobra1 02-18-2019 05:02 PM

Here’s hoping McFarlane Toys does a better job with fabric capes.

cjflan32 02-18-2019 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomax (Post 789943)
to the people complaining:: remember that they will start to disconnect due to them losing the license. this was gonna happen, i thought you guys would know this by now as Collectors? anywho, one door closes and another door opens called McFarlane :thumbs

After doing this for almost 30 years I'm no longer surprised at how much collector's DON'T know about this hobby.

Dr Kain 02-18-2019 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomax (Post 789943)
to the people complaining:: remember that they will start to disconnect due to them losing the license. this was gonna happen, i thought you guys would know this by now as Collectors? anywho, one door closes and another door opens called McFarlane :thumbs

So what was the excuse when they WEREN'T losing the license?

Armageist 02-18-2019 07:59 PM

This doesn't seem to bode well for Mattel.

It really seems like they're just phoning it in. In Distribution, in New Products, in marketing.

It's not a wonder they're losing stock value. They seem extremely slow to adjust to a post TRU world.

Just continue to rely on Hot Wheels and Barbie. JP distribution was good, except of course for a certain Spino that never even showed up in stores out here.

lordbest 02-18-2019 08:18 PM

According to Pixel Dan there will be a Netflix She-ra toyline coming out later this year, so now I can ignore Mattel for the next six months. Except that Poison Ivy, I'm going to get that.

Skoob 02-18-2019 08:29 PM

Yes! I like that Ivy too. The rest, not so much. 'Bye, Mattel. Don't let the door hitcha on the way out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjflan32 (Post 789987)
After doing this for almost 30 years I'm no longer surprised at how much collector's DON'T know about this hobby.

Next time, I'll make sure it's obvious that I mean to be rhetorical and sarcastic. :D

Tomax 02-18-2019 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjflan32 (Post 789987)
After doing this for almost 30 years I'm no longer surprised at how much collector's DON'T know about this hobby.

LOL
damn, 30 yrs, holy moly.

Chosen 02-18-2019 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukefett (Post 789965)
I don't know how they don't have a single "Legacy" Jurassic Park thing to display. Lego didn't have anything either, at least we got the 1 set. Are there likeness rights issues or something?

The Legacy Collection stuff is all Target exclusive, and as Toy Fair is more of a wider reach, store exclusives usually get left out here, whereas they get bigger focus at events like, compared to Transformers, SDCC or Botcon in the past. That's why the Brachiosaurus didn't make an appearance, because it got moved into Legacy instead.

Why Mattel did nothing with the 6" line is beyond me, or how they didn't show off any of the new Mega Dual Attacks or even the Attack Packs in person. Was there any coverage of the collector panel?

Dr Kain 02-18-2019 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 790015)
According to Pixel Dan there will be a Netflix She-ra toyline coming out later this year, so now I can ignore Mattel for the next six months. Except that Poison Ivy, I'm going to get that.

lol

You would think they would have wanted to have that out to coincide WITH the show, but okay. They pulled the same crap with Voltron too when Voltron Force was airing.

Snowflakian 02-19-2019 12:49 AM

Those mini-dinos look like mini Gon styled figures. Really digging those.

Digging some of the DC Multiverse stuff, at least Robin and Batgirl.

The movie batman figure is neat. It's an amazing classic throwback to his first batman movie figure in style, detail, and accessories(minus zipline belt of the original). Entirely has that classic figure design aesthetic as a nostalgia throwback with some modern articulation added.

hasbroherofan 02-19-2019 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbest (Post 790015)
According to Pixel Dan there will be a Netflix She-ra toyline coming out later this year, so now I can ignore Mattel for the next six months. Except that Poison Ivy, I'm going to get that.

Weird. Wonder why they’re so late.

tlasjr 02-19-2019 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 789847)
Ugh. Jurassic Park stuff looks like crap. Getting tired of these 30 year old recycled toys. How can a toy line promoting inaccurate designs be toy of the year? I thought toys that educated and excited were promoted. These actually dumb down kids. 30 years ago it was just logical theory about dinosaurs and feathers, today it’s fact.

Hopefully the next World movie is the nail in the coffin for this geriatric series. I say that as a HUGE fan of the novels. The movies have got to go extinct.

How are they 30 year old recycled toys? Mattel has had te license for a year.you think Hasbro just said oh you have the license now? Here have all our molds.
My question is what happen3d to that Brachiosaurus?
As far as feathered dinos, remember these aren't dinos. They are all genetic hybrids. In the universe canon there were holes in the genetic code. He'll on the book the tree has a frogs tongue.

webz 02-19-2019 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlasjr (Post 790044)
How are they 30 year old recycled toys? Mattel has had te license for a year.you think Hasbro just said oh you have the license now? Here have all our molds.
My question is what happen3d to that Brachiosaurus?
As far as feathered dinos, remember these aren't dinos. They are all genetic hybrids. In the universe canon there were holes in the genetic code. He'll on the book the tree has a frogs tongue.

30 year old toys because Mattel basically carried over the same toys Kenner made in 1993. New molds, but side be side they look almost identical. They are clinging to the past.

If you are asking about the one during the volcanic explosion, that Brachiosaurus burned to death.

That was a great cop-out written into the movie. It could, and should, have been written in to explain feathers on the dinosaurs. What Wu should have said was, “In the past, we used other dna that affected the look of our dinosaurs. With advances in DNA cloning, our current dinosaurs are more genetically pure and that explains the feathers and proper wrists.”

T-Rex never had a frog tongue in either book. In Jurassic Park, it had a slightly forked tongue it used to explore a cave the kids were hiding in. That was more of a snake-like trait, using a Jacobson’s organ to smell. It coiled around Tim’s leg and pulled him. It wasn’t launched at him nor was it sticky.

littlewolvie 02-19-2019 05:49 AM

It seems I can stop collecting DC Super Hero Girls as well, as I hate the new design. :-(

Dr Kain 02-19-2019 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewolvie (Post 790046)
It seems I can stop collecting DC Super Hero Girls as well, as I hate the new design. :-(

I saw your post and at first was like, "Redesign, what's he talking about?" And then I went back and looked at the dolls and holy christ KILL'EM WITH FIRE!!!!! They look like they are trying to possess your soul. What the hell happened?

Skoob 02-19-2019 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 790058)
[re: Super Hero Girls], holy christ KILL'EM WITH FIRE!!!!! They look like they are trying to possess your soul. What the hell happened?

They are ghastly. LOL


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