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Joe Moore 06-13-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 801688)
What happened? Did mcfarlane get the rights? I didn’t hear about this with neca.

New Line is pulling all rights from companies to Nightmare On Elm Street. Mego mentioned it a couple months back, and then NECA mentioned it a couple weeks ago. No explanation has been given, but it's affecting multiple companies.

NECA Twitter
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Not the latter. No new NOES for sdcc. Maybe for anyone for while...
As for Friday The 13th, there's been a massive ongoing lawsuit between Paramount and the writer of the original film. NECA has been able to circumvent this a bit, due to having a bunch in the works prior to the lawsuit. But, with it ongoing, it's finally caught up to them.

NECA Twitter
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There have been issues for a while that have impacted other licensees more immediately. Luckily we had a lot in development early that we were able to still bring to you all.

Comedian 06-13-2019 09:38 AM

Thanks for all the info. That sucks. At least we have a lot from them.

Black Arbor 06-13-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801689)
New Line is pulling all rights from companies to Nightmare On Elm Street. Mego mentioned it a couple months back, and then NECA mentioned it a couple weeks ago. No explanation has been given, but it's affecting multiple companies.

NECA Twitter


As for Friday The 13th, there's been a massive ongoing lawsuit between Paramount and the writer of the original film. NECA has been able to circumvent this a bit, due to having a bunch in the works prior to the lawsuit. But, with it ongoing, it's finally caught up to them.

NECA Twitter

Any idea if this will affect straight rereleases of figures? I keep seeing Freddy's Revenge and Multiple Jasons at Target, wondering if I should get spares in case of breakage or if they'll keep pumping out the ones they've already did!

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 801690)
Thanks for all the info. That sucks. At least we have a lot from them.

The thing that really stings, is they confirmed that a FvJ Freddy was well into development when they got word.

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 801691)
Any idea if this will affect straight rereleases of figures? I keep seeing Freddy's Revenge and Multiple Jasons at Target, wondering if I should get spares in case of breakage or if they'll keep pumping out the ones they've already did!

For Jason, I don't think so. Since they're already produced, and still actively in production, they can keep producing them for now. My guess is at certain point they will have to cut that off, but that's only a guess on my part. The lawsuit has caused a ton of problems for companies, like the F13 game developer.

As for Freddy, that's a bit murkier. Mego said they basically had to stop production all together. Which is why the 2nd run of Freddy's was so short (the one with the fixed glove).

Dolemite 06-13-2019 10:39 AM

So, Roy and Corpse Pamela are still coming, then. *whew*

Luckily, most of my must-have Jasons have been released, but here's hoping that either Part 7 can still get made soon or that NECA will get their asses to work on one after the lawsuit FINALLY gets resolved...whenever the fuck that will be. Ideally, I'd love to have the entire Jason roster completed by NECA one day, which Randy has said is the goal.

And yeah, this lawsuit has also totally fucked the videogame. Lots of in-work content had to be ditched. The selfishness of Sean Cunningham is really screwing over the fans.

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 801697)
So, Roy and Corpse Pamela are still coming, then. *whew*

Luckily, most of my must-have Jasons have been released, but here's hoping that either Part 7 can still get made soon or that NECA will get their asses to work on one after the lawsuit FINALLY gets resolved...whenever the fuck that will be. Ideally, I'd love to have the entire Jason roster completed by NECA one day, which Randy has said is the goal.

And yeah, this lawsuit has also totally fucked the videogame. Lots of in-work content had to be ditched. The selfishness of Sean Cunningham is really screwing over the fans.

It's a lot more messy than that. Victor Miller wants complete ownership of the 1st film, which, if granted, causes a ripple effect of what he actually owns. Meaning that Jason Voorhees would essentially be split between two entities. Doomsday scenario is that Paramount can use the character concepts after the first film, but loses the Jason name, the movie title, and the backstory. A deal will be struck eventually, but they gotta throw cash around, which they haven't been willing to do.

So if Cunningham loses, Paramount will have to license those rights from Miller. If Cunningham wins, Miller loses his rights to the film.

Dolemite 06-13-2019 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801698)
It's a lot more messy than that. Victor Miller wants complete ownership of the 1st film, which, if granted, causes a ripple effect of what he actually owns. Meaning that Jason Voorhees would essentially be split between two entities. Doomsday scenario is that Paramount can use the character concepts after the first film, but loses the Jason name, the movie title, and the backstory. A deal will be struck eventually, but they gotta throw cash around, which they haven't been willing to do.

So if Cunningham loses, Paramount will have to license those rights from Miller. If Cunningham wins, Miller loses his rights to the film.

Yeah, I've been following the ins-and-outs of this case as well, but this all could have been avoided if Cunningham had just been willing to toss a few bucks at Miller and settle this thing before it got out of hand. I'm pretty sure Miller isn't really interested in controlling the F13 brand at his age.

Regardless of when the suit is settled, however, the game will never be resurrected. The damage there is done.

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 801701)
Yeah, I've been following the ins-and-outs of this case as well, but this all could have been avoided if Cunningham had just been willing to toss a few bucks at Miller and settle this thing before it got out of hand. I'm pretty sure Miller isn't really interested in controlling the F13 brand at his age.

Regardless of when the suit is settled, however, the game will never be resurrected. The damage there is done.

Yeah, the game really got shafted. They had some major additions and tweaks planned. I'll give those guys credit, they could have simply shut those servers down after their plans got derailed.

Spooked 06-13-2019 06:05 PM

So I wonder how Trick or Treat Studios got the license to produce Nightmare on Elm Street masks and gloves?

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooked (Post 801737)
So I wonder how Trick or Treat Studios got the license to produce Nightmare on Elm Street masks and gloves?

Likely a different license than the action figure license. Trick or Treat items are marketed as costumes and props. New Line could also be shuffling licenses around in general.

Karma Jawa 06-13-2019 07:39 PM

So we’re still getting FvJ Jason?

I’m mainly a massive fan of the original series (and still hoping for Part 7 like most), but FvJ Jason 6” has been very high on my wish list. Is that still on despite all of the court malarkey?

Joe Moore 06-13-2019 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma Jawa (Post 801742)
So we’re still getting FvJ Jason?

I’m mainly a massive fan of the original series (and still hoping for Part 7 like most), but FvJ Jason 6” has been very high on my wish list. Is that still on despite all of the court malarkey?

Yes, FvJ Jason is still happening, as is the Lake Corpse Pamela Voorhees 8" Figure.

Trivial Psychic 06-13-2019 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801693)
As for Freddy, that's a bit murkier. Mego said they basically had to stop production all together. Which is why the 2nd run of Freddy's was so short (the one with the fixed glove).

With that said, I'm assuming that this would also put an end to Mezco's upcoming Freddy, or would that still be able to come out since it's already been in development for a while now?

Comedian 06-13-2019 08:30 PM

What about that neca toon series. It has Freddy,Jason and both versions of it.

Are they still coming? Bbts has them listed as July.

Joe Moore 06-14-2019 03:58 AM

Basically, everything we've already seen from Freddy and Jason should hit stores, the stuff that's already up for pre-order. Those had been in development long before we've seen them. After that is where it becomes problematic.

I'm hoping Randy will talk a bit more about it next weekend at the NECA Fan Event.

Villano 06-14-2019 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801757)
Basically, everything we've already seen from Freddy and Jason should hit stores, the stuff that's already up for pre-order. Those had been in development long before we've seen them. After that is where it becomes problematic.

I'm hoping Randy will talk a bit more about it next weekend at the NECA Fan Event.

If anyone here is going, can you ask specifically about Part 8? With Roy officially on the way, Manhattan is the only other Jason on my wishlist.

Joe Moore 06-14-2019 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villano (Post 801763)
If anyone here is going, can you ask specifically about Part 8? With Roy officially on the way, Manhattan is the only other Jason on my wishlist.

He's been asked about Parts 7, 8 and Jason X dozens (if not hundreds) of times on Twitter. He responds the same every time. The plan is to do every version eventually. But after the FvJ, it becomes tougher due to the lawsuit.

Villano 06-14-2019 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801765)
He's been asked about Parts 7, 8 and Jason X dozens (if not hundreds) of times on Twitter. He responds the same every time. The plan is to do every version eventually. But after the FvJ, it becomes tougher due to the lawsuit.

I was hoping part 8 was one of the "already in some stage of production so it'll squeak by" Jasons.

Joe Moore 06-14-2019 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villano (Post 801766)
I was hoping part 8 was one of the "already in some stage of production so it'll squeak by" Jasons.

They have multiple ones in the works (at least 8" versions), but there's no guarantee that it will hit (NECA Twitter). If there's no new Jason Figures at SDCC (already confirmed no new Freddy's there), then we know they hit a road bloack.

Villano 06-14-2019 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 801768)
They have multiple ones in the works (at least 8" versions), but there's no guarantee that it will hit (NECA Twitter). If there's no new Jason Figures at SDCC (already confirmed no new Freddy's there), then we know they hit a road bloack.

Damn. :( Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Joe Moore 06-14-2019 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villano (Post 801770)
Damn. :( Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Once the lawsuit is resolved, or a settlement is reached, then everything should be back to normal for them.

Dolemite 06-14-2019 07:45 AM

I could have sworn it was stated officially at one point that the lawsuit only affected things that basically created a new narrative with the property (movies, videogames, etc) and not merchandise. Hmm, guess that was wrong.

Spooked 06-14-2019 08:10 AM

Well, if NECA's able to re-use parts - say the shoes - doesn't that mean that all other versions of Jason could be considered 'in-production'? :D

wormser 06-14-2019 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 801691)
Any idea if this will affect straight rereleases of figures? I keep seeing Freddy's Revenge and Multiple Jasons at Target, wondering if I should get spares in case of breakage or if they'll keep pumping out the ones they've already did!

Spares?!? For toys??? It won’t break if you aren’t playing with it and just have it on a shelf


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