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Whovian2018 07-11-2019 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 804668)
Jim Henson specifically kept the Sesame Street characters from getting sold in the Muppet deal with Disney, can't remember the exact reason offhand but I think it had something to do with not wanting them slapped on every product under the sun


Sesame Street was sold off by a German company that owned the Jim Henson Company back in 2001. The sale of Sesame Street had nothing to do with the Disney sale in 2004.

However, I believe Sesame Street was the hold up back in 1990 when Disney was going to buy the Jim Henson Company out right. That sale never happened though.

Whovian2018 07-11-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 804673)
That makes this even more unusual of a choice then for Hasbro since it has no direct ownership or indirect (Disney) ownership of the Sesame Street characters. But whatever.... good for those who want it, but it's an easy pass for me. I was really hoping they'd do something wih Transformers (a larger Unicron) or GI Joe (kickoff a 6" scale 80s cartoon line up), if not something else Star Wars related.

If this one fails to meet its goal, it might be the last Haslab we see, and that makes it a risky venture in my opinon when they had other options that appeal to a much larger collector comminity with disposable income (ie. their own GI Joe and Transformers licenses that DON'T expire in 2020 like Marvel and Star Wars).

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the show. Its not as random as one might think. Many companies are getting in on Sesame Street this year. I am surprised its a replica and not an action figure line.

Black Arbor 07-11-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whovian2018 (Post 804675)
Sesame Street was sold off by a German company that owned the Jim Henson Company back in 2001. The sale of Sesame Street had nothing to do with the Disney sale in 2004.

However, I believe Sesame Street was the hold up back in 1990 when Disney was going to buy the Jim Henson Company out right. That sale never happened though.

That's weird, I've read in several official biographies that Jim himself kept having to tell Disney no on getting the Sesame Street gang...

ShabbyBlue 07-11-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 804674)
What is with the negativity? Nothing that we were aware of got canned for this to happen.

It's the disappointment from people who were hoping/expecting another Star Wars toy, or something from Transformers or GI Joe, since all three of those properties make more sense and have huge collector bases that are willing to spend crazy money on something Haslab might offer. And also the concern that this is such an odd choice that it might fail to meet its goal and therefore kill the Haslab concept completely.

I wasn't one of the people expecting Star Wars again, but I certainly wasn't expecting an oddball choice like this. So now we'll have to wait and see how this pans out, and then wait another 12-18 months to see if a 3rd Haslab item is offered.

Whovian2018 07-11-2019 02:41 PM

It seems the whole point of Haslab is to do off the wall stuff that you normally wouldn't see in stores. Transformers, Star Wars, Marvel, these properties have decades worth of stuff for fans. We have never seen anything like this, which makes it perfect for a Haslab type system, which is specifically meant to fund things that may not appeal to the mass market. Would people rather another Optimus Prime?

xenobill 07-11-2019 02:42 PM

so i personally think its pretty cool but i get the disappointment as far as it not being what most people wanted however as people seem to keep asking why this and not something else id just like to point out its the 50th anniversary of sesame street so it actually make perfect sense as to why this.

Nexodusrex 07-11-2019 03:16 PM

I was not expecting this. I wanted UNicron

Whovian2018 07-11-2019 03:24 PM

Yes... because we've never gotten a Unicron figure....

ShabbyBlue 07-11-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whovian2018 (Post 804687)
Yes... because we've never gotten a Unicron figure....

We've gotten plenty of plush Cookie monsters dolls though. I see many on ebay right now in varying sizes, including a 17 inch one for just $10 and a 21 inch one for $15. But $300 for a 38 inch one from Hasbro? Sure, why not. :)

Lance Quazar 07-11-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Whovian2018 (Post 804672)
No. The Jim Henson Company was bought by a German media company in 2000. In 2001 the new owners sold their portion of the rights to the Sesame Street characters to what is now Sesame Workshop, formerly the Children's Television Workshop. This was the company that produced the show, but didn't actually own the Muppet characters on the show. They also got the right to call characters Muppets, but they are no "THE" Muppets, which is the branding for characters from The muppet Show franchise of characters that the Jim Henson Company sold to Disney in 2004 after the company was sold back to the Henson family.

So yeah.... there is some weird history and separation of properties happening here. Sufficet to say, Sesame Street is in no way owned by Disney.

Yes, but prior to the Henson' company's sale, CTW did co-own the Sesame Muppets. Now they're full owners.

t1dc 07-11-2019 03:46 PM

it's cute.

not sure it's $300 cute though.

Batman 07-11-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 804689)
We've gotten plenty of plush Cookie monsters dolls though. I see many on ebay right now in varying sizes, including a 17 inch one for just $10 and a 21 inch one for $15. But $300 for a 38 inch one from Hasbro? Sure why not.

That’s not even the same thing and you know it. That’s like saying Hasbro shouldn’t have bothered with the Sail Barge because LEGO made a $100 one and it’s close enough.

It’s a 1:1 scale replica of the muppet. It has his google eyes, accurate muppet fur and an internal skeleton for articulation. The fingers articulate. He comes with 2 prints and a bonus accessory. This isn’t just a “plush” toy. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean other people won’t. It’s not taking the place of anything. If people don’t like it, they won’t back it and it won’t get made. It’s better that than making it a mass release, having it go to retail and tank and be on massive clearance like pretty much all of the new Vintage Collection Star Wars Toys.

There are lots of high end option for Marvel, Star Wars and Transformers. We’re getting a 2 foot tall Omega Supreme and the ultimate G1 Prime this year. Let the muppet guys have their Cookie Monster.

ShabbyBlue 07-11-2019 04:00 PM

^^

I was being a bit snarky there, but it was in response to the very generalized statement "Like we never got a unicron before." Per your own argument, that's like saying Haslab shouldn't do a massive 40 inch ultimate Unicron just because other Unicron figures have already been made in smaller sizes and styles before.

JerpJerp 07-11-2019 04:28 PM

derpy....

Lance Quazar 07-11-2019 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 804677)
That's weird, I've read in several official biographies that Jim himself kept having to tell Disney no on getting the Sesame Street gang...

Well, yeah, that's what Whovian said. Disney no doubt wanted the Sesame characters, too, and Jim (who was co-owner of them) said no.

Enigma2K2 07-11-2019 06:09 PM

... is that Aaron Archer? I thought he left Hasbro.
And I'd rather spend $450 on Optimus Prime.

Whovian2018 07-11-2019 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Quazar (Post 804719)
Well, yeah, that's what Whovian said. Disney no doubt wanted the Sesame characters, too, and Jim (who was co-owner of them) said no.

Yep, but the sale of Sesame Street had nothing to do with Disney.

Many people are under the impression that Disney has owned the Muppets since 1990. This is mostly due to the fact that Disney helped the Jim Henson Company produce some stuff in the 90's. They made Muppet Christmas Carol, Muppet Treasure Island, air Muppets Tonight on ABC and the Disney Channel, and aired Dinosaurs on ABC. They also helped produce a short lived TGIF show called Aliens in the Family which was a Jim Henson Company show. The deal never actually went through, but Disney was basically courting the Jim Henson Company for a decade before they finally got part of what they wanted, the branding for The Muppets.

Now, the Jim Henson Company is a splintered shell of its former self. Sesame Street lives on as its own thing, with puppets still being made by the Jim Henson Creature Shop. Fraggle Rock and other Muppet properties that did not have Fozzie, Piggy, Kermit, etc, stayed with the Jim Henson Company. Disney took The Muppets, the branding for characters that originated from The Muppet Show, all the Muppet movies, The Jim Henson Hour Muppet TV segments, Muppets Tonight, and other productions that featured characters from The Muppet Show.

I totally get why the general public, and even many fans, have trouble with this weird splintering of the company. When Happy Time Murders was released, so many people thought it was Disney doing it.

MeLikeJinx 07-11-2019 06:53 PM

Me want cookie! I used to love pretending to be Cookie Monster when my nephews and niece were super little. LOL. As cool as Cookie Monster is though I wish it were Joe related instead.

GizmoTron 07-11-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 804679)
It's the disappointment from people who were hoping/expecting another Star Wars toy, or something from Transformers or GI Joe, since all three of those properties make more sense and have huge collector bases that are willing to spend crazy money on something Haslab might offer. And also the concern that this is such an odd choice that it might fail to meet its goal and therefore kill the Haslab concept completely.

I wasn't one of the people expecting Star Wars again, but I certainly wasn't expecting an oddball choice like this. So now we'll have to wait and see how this pans out, and then wait another 12-18 months to see if a 3rd Haslab item is offered.

There's nothing to that concern other than those fans perpetuating their own paranoia.

Haslab only exists so that Hasbro can find out if there is real money down interest in these big expensive items before they invest resources into making them. These are already considered risky projects for retail, so they are certainly aware that not every item is going to reach its goal. But all that means is that if it fails then they won't make this particular item (although knowing the prop replica crowd and this being only $300 Cookie will likely make his goal), and not that a single failure means they will never try again with something else in the future.

Really it's just a case of irrational fear that some collectors get when they're not specifically catered to: That they could somehow be deprived of something special for their collections, despite the fact they don't actually know what that item is, or even if Hasbro has any more plans on the backburner for another sail barge type project for HasLab in the first place.

Whovian2018 07-11-2019 07:08 PM

The only thing that will be affected by the failure of this product is any future products that are similar. If Cookie Monster fails, then we will likely not see any adult collector Sesame Street product from Hasbro and possibly other companies. This product is not in any way taking away from another product. It's existence does not mean they won't also try crowd funding a Unicron or something.

What bugs me is that there is SO MUCH adult collector product out there for Marvel, GI Joe, Star Wars, Transformers, etc. Why is there so much hate for this product when there is hardly anything for adult collectors of high end Sesame Street merch like this?

Black Arbor 07-11-2019 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whovian2018 (Post 804741)
The only thing that will be affected by the failure of this product is any future products that are similar. If Cookie Monster fails, then we will likely not see any adult collector Sesame Street product from Hasbro and possibly other companies. This product is not in any way taking away from another product. It's existence does not mean they won't also try crowd funding a Unicron or something.

What bugs me is that there is SO MUCH adult collector product out there for Marvel, GI Joe, Star Wars, Transformers, etc. Why is there so much hate for this product when there is hardly anything for adult collectors of high end Sesame Street merch like this?

You and GizmoTron make great points! It's not like Hasbro already made these and has to make up for production costs! I really hope this succeeds and someone looks into revitalizing the canceled Palisades Sesame Street toyline!

MUfan97 07-11-2019 11:39 PM

I mean, there are probably people who want it, but still...This is a really weird second project.

Vamp 07-11-2019 11:48 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/w2YGvWXRzFM52/giphy.gif

Sedated Orange 07-11-2019 11:56 PM

I think this is a great idea! I've always liked Cookie as a character and it's interesting to see something a little different from time to time. If I had the money I'd snap it up immediately!

TroyBootsa 07-12-2019 07:11 AM

Australia release ?
 
Was not expecting this but it is kool, Anyone hear of any news about a Australian release ?


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