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chaddicus 01-28-2021 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 860358)
I assume it has electronics because of the light up headlights in the first teaser image. For this price it better have lights and sound FX and be able to transform/open up into its attack mode like the old toy. It hopefully has a nicely detailed interior as well if its able to hold 6 figures.

Per Brian Flynn, he said the eyes glow in the dark, so this could be light up feature but if we know anything about the cost cutting corners Super7 likes to take with this line (not correcting the assembly errors inherited from Matty Collector), it will probably be what they use for their glow in the dark figures

Augustus10 01-28-2021 09:29 PM

My Panthro has a crooked ThunderCat logo on his belt... I almost returned it but decided to suck it up and keep it. Now looking back for a $50 action figure get the damn paint decos straight!

predaking000 01-29-2021 01:34 AM

Since I seriously started collecting fresh out of college about 20 years ago, a big modern Thundertank toy has always been one of the unmade grails.

But I ultimately sold my entire Ultimates collection, along with the rest of my Super7 toys (except for the Keshi figures) just because I was getting tired of dealing with S7's QC issues (mainly crappy paint, but other things as well), which they tend to be completely unapologetic for...Flynn and his customer service crew as well. And I was also tired of dealing with the increased prices that weren't accompanied by an increase in quality. I was seriously buying 2-3 of each figure just to get one that looked decent and like it should, and I didn't want to have to keep doing that for the rest of the line. Had to get out of the TMNT Ultimates line, too, much as I always wanted modernized Playmates figs, once I saw the cheapass and breakage-prone joints used on some of the figures (like the Foot Soldier).

That said, I've got no hate for S7. Just don't want their stuff anymore. I'm sure this will sell. Once this toy starts shipping and is no longer in production, it's gonna double and triple in value. Happy for all the fans who are finally getting a chance to get this.

darthschroeder 01-29-2021 02:49 AM

I had to give up on Super7. They make lots of stuff I want, but the actual product is usually too shoddy for the prices they charge.
Almost everything I have bought from them has had some sort of major QC issue. The last one was Ultimate Splinter, and one of the feet broke off as I was removing it from the package. Seriously, it just snapped off, and I wasn't even trying to break in the articulation.
I contacted BBTS, and they had no replacements available, and they advised me to contact Super7 about the issue. I contacted Super7 and their representative didn't even seem to read my message, and they told me to contact BBTS (which I had already told them I did in my original email).
I understand that the Super7 stuff is made to order, but it seems ridiculous that they don't have any replacement parts available for customers, especially considering their notorious fragility.
No more Super7 stuff for me, too much of a gamble.

littlewolvie 01-29-2021 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 860358)
I assume it has electronics because of the light up headlights in the first teaser image. For this price it better have lights and sound FX and be able to transform/open up into its attack mode like the old toy. It hopefully has a nicely detailed interior as well if its able to hold 6 figures.

I don't feel like lights and electronics justify this price. I know you can't compare these, but my Playmobil licensed vehicles (Ghost Busters, Scooby-Doo, Back To The Future) have lights and sound effects and are like 40 euro. Hasbro's gigantic Sentinel has these and costs way less. My conclusion is that this Thundertank is just way overpriced.

Comedian 01-29-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by littlewolvie (Post 860396)
I don't feel like lights and electronics justify this price. I know you can't compare these, but my Playmobil licensed vehicles (Ghost Busters, Scooby-Doo, Back To The Future) have lights and sound effects and are like 40 euro. Hasbro's gigantic Sentinel has these and costs way less. My conclusion is that this Thundertank is just way overpriced.

Yes....and no. The sentinel sold over 20,000 units. The tank will most likely be below 1,000 units.

dukefett 01-29-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 860397)
Yes....and no. The sentinel sold over 20,000 units. The tank will most likely be below 1,000 units.

It's just baffling and pretty much annoying at this point when people know this and don't take it into acccount. Hasbro sold shit tons of Sentinels and Razor Crests. I doubt they'll sell 2,000 Thundertanks. Look at the size of the thing, big parts, big molds, big money.

I think a better way to look at it is this is valued at 10 Thundercat figures ($45 x 10). Doesn't seem crazy to me. The Razor Crest is $350, at like $13 a figure for TVC, that's about 27 figures worth.

Comedian 01-29-2021 09:02 AM

Haslab had 2 items both at $350. That seemed to be the sweet spot in many minds.

The fact this will have a payment plan will help. Honestly, the size is scarier to me than price. I did not give thundercats that mush space in my toy collection.

Mobb One 01-29-2021 02:00 PM

I'm not a Thundercats collector, but have super bittersweet nostalgia about my OG Thundertank that I sold back in the late 90s. I may have to get this, even at this price.

dCon 01-29-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OriginalFire (Post 860075)
This is the only major vehicle for this line. I don't think I would want a Cat's Lair. It doesn't do much.

Doesn't the actual Cats Lair do a bunch of stuff? Not to mention a weapons den, and some kinda dojo, yeah? I mean the original toy of it, sure, it's gotta be more limited to it's play potential & price point.


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Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 860148)
Plus that was the finale piece so to speak for a line that went 12 years. Also one of the largest playsets ever made.

So your saying it's an official fact that MOTUC is over? I'm glad I started during Mattel's Grayskull line wave 1, & flushed out the entire Grayskull Classics line of normal sized guys. All except Fisto + the latest wave. Which is actually still available now, so I may have to grab that or at least the (imo) 4 best figures in that wave at least. I didn't know this was the case.

dCon 01-29-2021 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewolvie (Post 860396)
I don't feel like lights and electronics justify this price. I know you can't compare these, but my Playmobil licensed vehicles (Ghost Busters, Scooby-Doo, Back To The Future) have lights and sound effects and are like 40 euro. Hasbro's gigantic Sentinel has these and costs way less. My conclusion is that this Thundertank is just way overpriced.

It's the size that costs the most, and the design process. It has to comfortably house & SEAT 6 seven inch Thundercats figures, plus still have room in the budget for LOTS of gimmicks/features/extra's. Considering it's from the Ultimates line, they will wanna go all out. Plus Hasbro electronics might not be as costly as other electronics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 860397)
Yes....and no. The sentinel sold over 20,000 units. The tank will most likely be below 1,000 units.

I'm guessing 2400. 1500-2000 for pre-orders, 200 - 500 for convention like events, & places like bbts ect. How many Snake Mountain's were made do you know?

JAG2045 01-30-2021 12:19 PM

It certainly looks cool but man that price tag... I mean the B:TAS Batmobile from DC Collectibles with lights that seated 2 figures was less than $100 and the Batwing was about $200

Comedian 02-01-2021 06:52 AM

Yes masters of the universe classics is over......for now. Mattel wanted to have all focus on origins but Mattel also announced a new 6-7” scale collector series coming this year. Speculation has been that this line may include some classics or at least figures that scale with them. Once origins runs its course it’s possible super7 could do more classics.

No one knows exact numbers on the snake mountain, but I also assumed it was around 1,000. Of course you know what assuming means. Lol.

From the video on YouTube that pixel Dan posted with Brian talking about the tank it looks like he is expecting a couple thousand at least. I like Brian, I like super7 and all of his explanation makes perfect sense, but $490 with shipping is a hell of a price coming off of so many other large scale items. I hope he gets the numbers, I hope the fans get this, I just don’t know if there is enough of them willing to pay this.

AceSimulacrum 02-01-2021 04:40 PM

It's a shame the price point is a lot to take. I know I was disappointed as a kid that they toy was nothing like the cartoon back then, and this definitely is hitting the accuracy. It would have to do alot to get people to jump on this. Thinking, some effects attachments or firing gimmick, a magnetic gimmmick for "climbing" action, and some sound effects. Also thinking if they wanted to cut costs they could just let some 3rd party provide stickers, and or do away with the gimmicks for a $200-250ish mark. But then again their ultimates go for $50 so...

Joe Moore 02-02-2021 12:08 PM

Pre-Orders Open for the Thundercats - Ultimates Thundertank Vehicle by Super7 - The Toyark - News

https://news.toyark.com/wp-content/u...ertank-006.jpg

webz 02-02-2021 12:24 PM

$250 or less would be idea for this. Drop the electronics and gimmicks. 99.999999999% of buyers will either never use the electronics or just once then stash it on a shelf.

These “premium” products aren’t providing the bang for the buck. A collectible toy vehicle shouldn’t cost the same as a PlayStation 5. I hope when Neca finally shows their Turtle Party Wagon it’ll be under $150.

Comedian 02-02-2021 12:27 PM

I don’t think there are any electronics.

Trailbreaker77 02-02-2021 12:34 PM

I guess I shouldn't be "shocked" by how collectors are "clueless" to how expensive the tooling / molding process for these figures / vehicle's made in a much smaller quantity are.

ShabbyBlue 02-02-2021 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 860709)
I hope when Neca finally shows their Turtle Party Wagon it’ll be under $150.

Not a chance. Their TMNT street diorama was $100-$150 depending on which version you got and requires much less tooling. The party wagon will have lots more individual parts. On the plus side, there's a bigger collector market for their TMNT line right now compared to Thundercats, helping keep the price down due to the amount of them they'll probably produce. I'll be shocked if it is under $300.

Comedian 02-02-2021 12:45 PM

Not clueless for most. Just in shock at the price of small run lines.

Game changer.....BBTS has this listed for $499. You only put $50 down now and $4 flat shipping.

metalalchemist 02-02-2021 12:48 PM

Super nice they are posting all these detailed pics. Will definitely be making my own because there is no way I am paying that.
Still, for those who buy, hope it is all you want and worth the price.

manic mailman 02-02-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG2045 (Post 860502)
It certainly looks cool but man that price tag... I mean the B:TAS Batmobile from DC Collectibles with lights that seated 2 figures was less than $100 and the Batwing was about $200

those were more basically engineered it looks like though

i pulled the trigger but the one thing i dont like is the footprint it will assume on my shelf <sob>

but i feel a moral obligation to support anything ambitious and cool that Brian and super7 do.

they dont have any more qc issues than any other toy company. they all have them.

goliathfasa 02-02-2021 01:53 PM

I don't know why but that image of the guy holding the two figures on top of the tank.

LOL. It's so funny for some reason.

We're all essentially adults who play with toys here tbh, but... seeing that in a publicity shot is just... I can't even.

ShabbyBlue 02-02-2021 01:55 PM

Went with the BBTS preorder which was surprisingly cheaper than the payment plan option. Only $50 now and don't have to worry about paying another dollar until roughly a year from now. Plenty of time to save up for it. I'm sure this will succeed, but I hope it's not a one-and-done thing for vehicles in this line. Super 7 doesn't HAVE to be this ambitious with the next one (Cat's Lair). I wouldn't mind seeing some smaller single-man vehicles in between, like the Thunderclaw or Mutant Skycutter.

Same goes for their TMNT line. It's a safe bet we'll get a Playmates style Turtle Wagon eventually, but I'd love some other small vehicles sprinkled in too like the classic Cheapskate skateboard from the first wave of the vintage line.

webz 02-02-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 860714)
Not a chance. Their TMNT street diorama was $100-$150 depending on which version you got and requires much less tooling. The party wagon will have lots more individual parts. On the plus side, there's a bigger collector market for their TMNT line right now compared to Thundercats, helping keep the price down due to the amount of them they'll probably produce. I'll be shocked if it is under $300.

You forget numbers. The diorama was made in VERY small numbers available at a small number of online dealers and comic book shops, two to a case. The animation party Wagon will have to be produced in larger numbers as it’d be a Target exclusive. The Party Wagon has a repaint option as well, as it was featured in the arcade games as well as the animation.

I don’t see Target doing a $300 toy exclusive. They have a hard enough time moving $150 transformers without clearance given them at $40 or less.


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