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Comedian 06-22-2021 09:32 AM

Really well done. Jumped right over to BBTS.

Boogieman4hire 06-22-2021 11:30 AM

And preordered. Now if I could just find that damn color version Frankenstein already.

Dr Kain 06-22-2021 01:38 PM

Best Wolf-Man ever!!!!

As soon as I see him at Target or Walmart I'll definitely be grabbing him.

scarrviper 06-22-2021 02:50 PM

This looks really impressive, love how we get a Lon Cheney Jr. head and those swappable parts. I do think the faces on the wolfman heads look a little weird, something seems off with the paintjob. It's been a long time since I've seen the film though.

Raine24 06-22-2021 02:55 PM

I haven't seen the movie since, uh... well, it was VHS, but I recognized LC Jr. right off the bat so that's a plus in the likeness category!

En Sabah Nerd 06-22-2021 03:14 PM

I think part of the reason a lot of people are finding the face colors on the wolfman heads to be off is because the movie was in black and white so there's a lack of direct reference for what it should look like in color. Looking at previous toys seems to be the main reference and there you encounter inconsistency. Diamond made their Select figure's face a darker color to match the fur but then Mego gave him a lighter face. The colored posters are also unreliable for a solid base since they're also inconsistent and often vibrant.

Dr Kain 06-22-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 873125)
I think part of the reason a lot of people are finding the face colors on the wolfman heads to be off is because the movie was in black and white so there's a lack of direct reference for what it should look like in color.

That's what I was going to say.

Like I had these old Universal Monster figures when growing up and the Wolf-Man figure had him with a red shirt, so I always just assumed it was red only to learn years later it was apparently green.

Man I miss those four figures. A shame my brother stole them as I would have loved to take pictures of them next to the NECA ones.

immortalslayer9 06-22-2021 03:38 PM

The weird mustache is really throwing me off. It just doesn't look right. Everything else looks great. But Wolfman is my all time favorite Universal Monster so I'm a perfectionist on him. But even still, I'll probably be buying two, one to have as Wolfman and one as Larry.

Raine24 06-22-2021 03:40 PM

Even when there's concrete reference the real colors would still probably look wrong to most people, for sure. I mean, how many wouldn't be taken aback by a Bride of Frankenstein that was a redhead with white streaks?

Villano 06-22-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 873125)
I think part of the reason a lot of people are finding the face colors on the wolfman heads to be off is because the movie was in black and white so there's a lack of direct reference for what it should look like in color. Looking at previous toys seems to be the main reference and there you encounter inconsistency. Diamond made their Select figure's face a darker color to match the fur but then Mego gave him a lighter face. The colored posters are also unreliable for a solid base since they're also inconsistent and often vibrant.

There is one color photo that is supposedly authentic. It's from one of the "House" movies (not sure if it's Dracula or Frankenstein)

Then again, Neca isn't always accurate with colors even with reference photos. Case in point, Jason Lives grey skin being painted brown for some reason.

Raine24 06-22-2021 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Villano (Post 873135)
There is one color photo that is supposedly authentic. It's from one of the "House" movies (not sure if it's Dracula or Frankenstein)

And that's totally Jack Pierce touching him up. He was a notorious stickler who likely wouldn't have changed the coloring from his original work unless told to (admittedly I don't know jack about the Wolf Man's makeup, but I know Pierce decently enough)

You know, there's a lot of leeway in the exact hue (as it was never meant to be seen in color) as long as you get the value right, and that face is way too light compared to the fur :/

Tarkin 06-22-2021 07:40 PM

Looks good to me. Passes the eyeball test. Any colour inaccuracy I can touch up with some acrylic paint. Hopefully we finally get a good Bela Lugosi figure

Dr Kain 06-23-2021 07:29 AM

Actually, seeing NECA go that far with Larry has me hoping they're going to do teh same with Imhotep and have him come with a robe that can go over his body with an alternate head that has his hat.

modernlove101 06-23-2021 08:43 AM

Hello! I'm new here and I wanted to ask: Why is NECA predominantly releasing the Frankenstein figure in B&W (with the color version being a rare exclusive) but Wolf Man in color? I'd be a lot more excited for this line if there was consistency there.

Dr Kain 06-23-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by modernlove101 (Post 873178)
Hello! I'm new here and I wanted to ask: Why is NECA predominantly releasing the Frankenstein figure in B&W (with the color version being a rare exclusive) but Wolf Man in color? I'd be a lot more excited for this line if there was consistency there.

The B&W one is jsut a gimmick.

It's neat, but I'm glad they are doing color versions (which is not truly exclusive or rare) as there's not much you can do with B&W versions.

modernlove101 06-23-2021 09:40 AM

I see. Personally I'd prefer the B&W versions but if that's the case, why can you only order the B&W Franks on DD, EE, and BBTS?

Joe Moore 06-23-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by modernlove101 (Post 873184)
I see. Personally I'd prefer the B&W versions but if that's the case, why can you only order the B&W Franks on DD, EE, and BBTS?

The Frankenstein B&W version was a general release from the start, and will be available everywhere. The color Frankenstein was released first at Walmart, but will be available to any retailer about mid-July.

modernlove101 06-23-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 873185)
The Frankenstein B&W version was a general release from the start, and will be available everywhere. The color Frankenstein was released first at Walmart, but will be available to any retailer about mid-July.

Ooooooh, I see. I thought it was a one-off Walmart exclusive. Thanks for clearing that up.

Dr Kain 06-23-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by modernlove101 (Post 873184)
I see. Personally I'd prefer the B&W versions but if that's the case, why can you only order the B&W Franks on DD, EE, and BBTS?

The thing is, what do you need the figure itself to be in B&W for?

Do you have a B&W personalized shelf made for it that has gray colored glass around it on all four sides? I'm just generally curious, not trying to be a dick.

If it's just for photos, you can easily just turn the B&W filter on your camera to take B&W photos, which is what I plan to do.

Raine24 06-23-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 873194)
The thing is, what do you need the figure itself to be in B&W for?

It's really not strange for someone to want a character to look on the shelf how they do in the movies, is it?

modernlove101 06-23-2021 11:52 AM

I would LOVE to have that shelf/screen. But no, I prefer the B&W versions because that's how the movies are. It feels like more honest interpretations of the characters, not someone's approximation of their color designs. It's why I was so delighted when they debuted the B&W Frank pics first. I thought it was really bold of them to do that for the whole series but alack.

I'm sure we'll get B&W versions of these down the line to some capacity like how they're releasing NES/SNES versions of the TMNT line. Until then, though, I shall bide my time and maybe save some money (wishful thinking).

80sforged 06-23-2021 11:52 AM

For me, B&W is what I associate most with these characters, and thus why I prefer it. The Universal Horror films, being in B&W was part of their overall style, and I think made them more memorable. Same for the RKO based Kong.

Now for the Metaluna Mutant being in color, it almost seems more fitting as 'This Island Earth' was quite the visual spectacle and the color added it it. That film and Forbidden Planet would both have suffered for bein in B&W.

Raine24 06-23-2021 12:23 PM

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Whereas the Gill-man would suffer from color. Yeesh, those lips

80sforged 06-23-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine24 (Post 873204)
Whereas the Gill-man would suffer from color. Yeesh, those lips

Another film that I thought was enhanced by B&W. Those underwater scenes had an almost dream-like quality.

modernlove101 06-23-2021 12:36 PM

Woof, yeah, no kidding. And wasn't Karloff's Frank makeup, like, brick red? My favorite of the Universal monsters is the Bride (which I will buy in whatever color pattern they release her in) and I'm VERY interested to see what they do with her. For lack of a B&W version, I hope they do the violet skin she was rumored to have on set.


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