That would have to be true for you to complain about it. But it's not garbage.

It'll do well so long as the movie does. The initial waves always do well, it just depends on how long after that it keeps selling and if stores overstock on the first waves.

So long as they have a variety of figures to cover each hero and nick fury it'll do fine. New molds aren't always needed so long as the variety is there. So far for sure we know cap, iron man and thor are new molds. Widow and anyone else has yet to be shown. They can probably get away with previous molds on some characters so long as it looks like the character. Like MU is a lot of re-used molds, but some new parts. MU is pretty damn successful. Now if it overdoes like say 10 different iron mans, 6 different thors, and 5 different caps only, then yes it might do poorly. If they work it strategicly though, it could be just as successful if not moreso than some of the other movie lines have been.

Another suit to add to the armoury! wallet hates me... the ML extremis armour,and IM 6'' series modular armour and the stark racing armour in 6'' all look great and will be welcomed editions. This I'm not sold on will need to see actual finished shots/ see in person.

you dont mean this one shown at the last SDCC do you??

http://www.google.co.uk/url?source=i...JJiNOS-SoxDMVg

because this one in the package looks completely different to that one shown with the new cap and thor. did they show another one that i missed then?

because i just held the figure from iron man 2 up aginst the new avengers packaging pic and the iron man is exactly the same in every single way.

well either way its only a mock up. im not one for accessories but that shoulder cannon does look pretty cool.

hopefully we will see some more avengers stuff at sdcc next month!

I can see myself passing on this line, at least on the hero figures. I'm just not a huge fan of movie likeness figures. Iron Man being a minor exception being as Robert Downey Jr. actually looks almost exactly like Tony Stark, though I don't have any figures that bare his resemblance, I maaay make an exception on that. Might pick up villains depending on what they have to fill out my Marvel Universe rogues. Hulk, Cap and Thor were disappointments with their movie accurate GI Joe body Emil Blonsky and Hulkbusters team and crappy movie accurate Abomination. Cap only had one rogue I could consider transferable into the MU line being Crossbones, and Thor's line having the Destroyer.

USAgent looks ridiculous next to MU, Red Guardian is somewhat passable. Iron Man 2 definitely gets the win for putting out figures that translate well to MU giving us, off the top of my head, at least FIVE usable comic rogues in Mandarin, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Whiplash and Iron Monger as well as a huge lot of generic army builders in the form of the Assault Drones and let's not forget the highly underrated Guardsmen. Let's not forget that they also gave us a perfect comic accurate Warmachine. I'd guess that no Marvel movie line was more successful or sold more figures and almost every villain, Warmachine and Comic Ironman figure was cleaned off the shelves.

I think that should tell Hasbro something. That people want more villains and comic accurate hero figures. There's only a small market for people who want Ryan Reynolds and Chris Hemsworth's mugs on their toys. Especially grown men. No offense to those that like this sort of thing but my friends came over and I had these two Green Lantern movie figures with Ryan Reynold's heads kicking around that I got for free with some DCIH lots I bought and that was the first thing and ONLY that they picked out as LAME.

I guess to each his own but there's already enough of a stigma that comes with collecting toys, I can only imagine if I started collecting dolls of teen girl heartthrobs. LOL. And if that isn't enough of a fair point, I rarely like the movie adaption of a character more than their comic book likeness and as such, I prefer comic accurate figures.

Yup I meant that one. Look at the chest details, lack of chest articulation, the gold stops on the sides of the lower torso connecting to upper torso, and some other design cues that seperate it from the IM2 figures. They are the same majorily in design aesthetics other than the triangle unibeam and grey parts on the legs(hard to see the rest of the details because of the packaging). Even the shoulder blades match too. The IM2 line ones were smaller. Cept that one pictured has feet articulation and the other photo one in the appreciation thread didn't look like they did. So that's good at least. Then these will have more articulation than what was shown for in the other pic. I also much prefer the lower neck shoulders on the triangle one over the raised warmachine shoulders of the circle one. Chances are this is another Ironman armor that'll be in the movie.

Err, well Chris Hemsworth as Thor had too many figures to pick from, but they did sell well enough for what was expected of Thor. Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool never got a figure at all(cept for minimates!), so no clue what you're talking about there. If he did I would have bought it, as I'm sure would have many others to have a pre-weapon X deadpool figure. That Weapon XI stuntman figure does not count, but it did manage to sell too. Personally, I'm just looking for the rest of the movie avengers I don't already have. Most of the designs are based on the Ultimate comics anyway, so you can fill in your comic-verse with movie figures like Nick Fury, maybe Hawkeye and Black Widow if they release them. You got to remember though, these toylines are for KIDS. The collectors are secondary. With this in mind they need screen accuracy as kids don't always read or even know of the comics. They just know what they saw in theaters or on DVD. You also have to remember your individual store doesn't speak for all nationwide either. The profits were still pretty good all around during the current economy, so yes they were successful enough. Sadly with the sheer success of IM2 in comparison though, Ironman will probably get several figures while the rest each get one of their movie costumes. Nick Fury is indeed the same as ultimate. Ultimate comics are just as genuine and real as marvel 616. They also use the IM movie armor in current ultimate, so IM is comic accurate too. Marvel adjusted 616 Tony stark to look like RDJ once he was cast as Tony Stark in IM1. So that accuracy should be dead on for modern 616 and Ultimate.

As for the GL movie figures. They are lame, but it's not the likeness and detailing that did it. It's the clear lack of poseability and any real articulation at all. So that's not a fair comparison nor does it speak to the actor likenesses at all. They did have comic accuracy though to the flashpoint GL Corps. Just the articulation is a big deterrant.

It's not 'collecting heart throbs.' It's collecting movie characters as they were portrayed, who the actor is, is moot. It's the same as any alt-universe interpretation of a character that needs visual accuracy(the movies even have their own universe designation in Marvel, you just like to focus on 616 which is the standard normal marvel). So what if it happens to look like so and so. Well, other than Justin Bieber as a marvel hero. Then I might buy it just to melt it and post the video on youtube. Otherwise though, it's about having accuracy as much as we want accuracy to the comics for comic figures.

These are ACTION FIGURES, not dolls. Big difference. They are all toys/collectibles but far different subgenre's of types. The stigma of collecting toys is only in your head too. Others who judge you for it aren't worth your time. It's no different than coin collecting, stamp collecting, model making, baseball cards, comics, precious moments, statues, train enthusiast, or whatever else out there people buy or have as hobbies. If people want to mock you for doing what is legal, not harming anyone, and brings you happiness, screw em, they're bullies then. Who cares if you want to buy Jem, or She-Ra dolls/figures, so long as it makes you happy.

For the record, classic costumed thor and classic costumed Asgard characters don't sell well, or even really meet decent responses from kids, the targeted audience. That's why thor lacked any kind of comic line and had only movie figures. Thor wasn't a line in general that was expected to do well, heck even in theaters they weren't expecting to carry the same punch as captain america a patriotic hero in the summer. You can see this in even the hasbro planning with as few waves as was scheduled. Thor by himself just doesn't have the audience pull in any reality to sustain his own toyline. Cap on the other hand had the entire patriotism thing going for it. Hasbro knows what they are doing.

The thing with hasbro is they are also stuck trying to meet retailer demands. Those villians that sell so well? That data is non-existant and only anecdotal. They sell so well because so few make it into the wild. Even the ones you mentioned like crossbones have more to do with case ratio than amount of figures sold. The issue with retailers though, is they want something to go with a blockbuster, and if hasbro doesn't meet what they want, the retailer just won't order it. The toy market is a constant fluctuating thing with its own set of politics and nuances to navigate.

When did I say anything about Deadpool?? I'm just going by what I've seen at my local stores. Thor did not sell AT ALL. Not even after it was reduced big time.

Oh yeah, definitely, the poor articulation is an issue, but I wasn't a fan of the headsculpt, either. I just look at it and it looks like Ryan Reynolds dressed as Green Lantern. I can't get beyond that but for the collectors who are down with that, good on them. Also, I hated the movie costume (and the movie in general) so that didn't help. Personally, I think the comic/cartoon accurate stuff sells better than movie figures baring likenesses of their actors/actresses. I could be wrong, but it's just from what I've seen at my local stores.

It's not that, man. It's the idea of collecting toys that happen to be heartthrobs to me is a bit bizarre which I feel is a fair opinion. I don't hate on people who do. I do concentrate on the 616 Universe. What if it looks like so and so? So I don't like it. I'm not trying to convince you to not buy a line of movie inspired figures. This just happens to be why I don't like them and why I feel some people pass on them. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I mean look at what you just said about a Justin Bieber figure. You obvious find the concept of Justin Bieber portraying a Marvel character as silly. I find certain actors portraying certain characters as silly or unappealing. We've got the same opinion on this, we just have a differing opinion on whether or not Ryan Reynolds or Chris Hemsworth portrayed Thor accurately or if we think a figure bearing their resemblence is something we want in our personal collections. It's all relative, man. It's no biggie. I agree with you completely on this. I even said I'd buy a Robert Downey Jr. figure of Tony Stark because to me, he looks close enough to my opinion of what he should look like.

It's not a big deal, man. They are doll-like. Like I even said to my sister recently, other than the fact that Giganta looks like Giganta, she's basically a Barbie doll. I'm not going to lie to myself about that, right? She could totally pass for a Jungle Barbie or something. Some people collect those MEGO figures. Now those definitely look like dolls to me, but they're cool. I like them. And the old school GI Joes? They were definitely what I'd think of as dolls, but they're cool. And there is a stigma about collecting toys, and it doesn't exist just in my head. It is a little funny and we're all happy to joke about it on here all the time. I don't see how my self-depricating joke on this occasion is any different from when anyone else jokes about how they spend all their money on toys. It's like when people are like "Wow, I'm such a geek." and joke about being a little bit ashamed. I don't let anyone tell me whether or not I should collect toys, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. I'm not serious about any of this, man. I don't want you to take it as a personal attack on collectors but I don't take my collecting seriously in that I'd be offended. I'm not serious that I'm scared of people finding out that I collect toys. I couldn't care less. It's just a joke.

i think we are getting our wires crossed lol! lets just leave it at that!!

bring on hawkeye and black widow figures!!!! if they manage to pull off a decent black widow, i can see it becoming one of the most sought after figures from the movie line!

No wires crossed, I'm just pointing it out before someone else reads it and starts feeling ashamed about their own habits. Joke or not, there's been too much BS in the world misread or mis-used as an excuse to hate on others for whatever reason. Even if it's meant as a joke, how does a new reader here know that?

And yes, I do feel the stigma of collecting toys is just in people's heads. It's the same as casting any kind of perception on others for whatever reason or difference they have. Calling ourselves geeks or comic book nerds is another matter entirely than as opposed to implying something could be thought of as 'bad.'

Everything else was opinion and rather moot to discussion. It's not like I'm using capslock cruise control.

I still don't get what your aversion to heart-throbs are though. Then again, I don't look at em like that. They just are whatever character they are portraying for that role. It doesn't really make sense to me at all why you'd fear or be concerned about buying characters you may like just because some people find the actor hot. Why does it matter? Why would it be weird?

And yes there is a difference between action figures and dolls. Now Old school GI Joe does blur the line, but there are different criteria to both as sub genres of toys. Just as much as say a stuffed doll, and a stuffed animal or a plushie. (Materials being the biggest seperating factor as well as articulation. Compare a ken doll to a mego figure and you'll see the differences in the elbows and knees. Old school gi joe on the other hand, afaik they were pretty much military ken dolls.)

It's cool, man. I'm not trying to offend anyone. Be careful, though. You might make a certain Bieber fan on here feel like shit. No seriously, it's a joke, dude. I don't think anyone is going to read my thread and think "Oh no, I have a movie Thor figure. I'm a loser." I don't feel that I need to defend myself on why I don't want a Chris Hemsworth Thor figure or a Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern figure, though. Some people just have certain lines that they won't cross on toy collecting. Like you might collect He-man, but you won't collect She-Ra because they have combable hair. No, I think what happened here was I inadvertently offended you by saying that in my opinion, collecting figures that bear resemblence to heart throbs is a bit silly, and for that I'm sorry.

As a result, I think you read too much into everything else I said because I've never seen you challenge anyone else on this before and I've seen almost everyone say at least at one point that they feel silly collecting toys but stopped giving a damn. I've got to assume, that that was what pissed you off the most of what I said and I apologize. Everyone should be able to collect whatever they want without being made to feel uncomfortable with their choices. I'm not going to make an open apology, as I still don't feel that I offended a lot of people. I'll give you a personal apology, for offending you, but I wasn't actively trying to be malicious in my post at all. I don't think most people would've taken it that way. If so, then my bad.

You know, it's not easy to reply to you when you keep creating a revised version each time. LOL. Look, I don't know. I never really cared. I don't get angry when people call my toys dolls. It's just a word. Maybe I'm not as hip to the toy terminology as you are but I'm not that hardcore. I mean they're toys. I don't take it that seriously. I collect them for fun. Nothing more.

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Look, Snowflakian. I apologize. You have no idea how much I regret posting that now because if I knew it was going to set you or anyone off like that, I wouldn't have done it in the first place. I made a comment about why I don't collect a certain type of toy and why I didn't think a line would do well and I said I thought it was a bit silly and I used the D word which apparently is the N word for toy collectors and I didn't realize it would piss someone off so bad. It's all cool, man. Like I said, it's just my opinion on those two lines and why I don't collect them.

These figures do indeed have a high chance of pegwarming. Despite the relative success of Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America in theaters, the toylines have pegwarmed pretty hard. Likewise, due to IM2 pegwarming, Thor and Captain America got much smaller lines. Now with even those smaller lines pegwarming, it'll carry over to Avengers, resulting in a much smaller line than anyone is expecting. This isn't going to be "Marvel Universe 2." More like "The Core Avengers" (But whichever ones have the misfortune of being available in waves past the second will only be available through internet sellers...good luck tracking down those Hawkeyes and Black Widows!) and maybe Loki and a couple bad guy troops." We'll get the same vehicles from Iron Man 2 and Captain America repainted a third time into Avengers/SHIELD color schemes. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't even a "comic series" for the Avengers toy line, just as there wasn't for Thor.

Want further proof that box-office success doesn't equal toy sales? The Avatar toys flopped hard, and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the #3 grossing movie of the year it came out, but its' toys flopped too.

Beyond that, the Avengers is not likely to be the uber-mega-smash hit that many seem to think it will be. I would say at best it performs as well or a little better than the first Iron Man movie. The audience for the Marvel movies is not cumulative...it's overlapping. A large number of the same people are going to Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, so it's not like you can add up the grosses of each of those movies and say "see how much money the Avengers will make!" Plus, there's the ever-present concern that it won't live up to the hype, which could result in a serious backlash.

Avengers does have one thing going for it though: Not much competition (especially in the "superhero" arena) in its' release window (The Dark Knight Rises comes out about 3 months later, well after Avengers will have made most of its' money). I have little doubt that as a movie it will do well...I just highly doubt it's going to be "one of the biggest action movies of all time." In fact, I bet it won't even be the biggest action movie of the summer its' released (that title likely falling to The Dark Knight Rises).

And there's the wildcard of the Spider-Man reboot as well. As much as fans are pooh-poohing it, the past movies have made a ton of money, and general audiences may well show up in droves.

I agree with jmacq1. There still may be Iron Man 2, Thor, and Cap figures on pegs in some store by the time the Avengers line hits, which should be late winter/early spring of next year. So there is a very good chance of pegwarming. And that's sad. And also like he said, good luck finding the other Avengers (Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Black Widow). If they make these figures at all, what are the chances anyone will ever see them on the pegs. BBTS and other online retailers will a) gouge you on the price b) sell out in a few hours. I look forward to the line, but have to find a way to get the GOOD figures in the line. How's everyone doing finding Sif and the Warriors 3?

packaging looks nice i can tell its 3.75inch cause of the big wepon accesorie , im hoping for 6 inch ones with changeable hands like in the ironman 2 wave :)

eh yeh actually there def is crossed wires, just read our posts and i think i said "this one in the package" under the pic i posted of the SDCC iron man from the avengers movie (i meant the new pic) that didnt make sense on my part.

all i was saying is the new pic that came online yesterday or whenever is the iron man 2 version in the mock up. but the one shown at sdcc with thor and cap is the one that is going to be in the avengers movie looking at the concept art / banners they have released (gold biceps, gold on the torso, bigger armour on the trapezius portion)

sorry my fault, i got mixed up!

JJK1120 i managed to get sif and the warriors 3 but sif cost me about £12 or £13 and Volstagg cost me about the same, maybe abit more. so i still paid over double what they would be at retail (american retail anyway)

hawkeye and black widow will be hard to find and/or expensive probably, but i think thor and iron man will be a lot less demanded. i think everyones got an eye for the new cap though!

im curious to see what the skrull figures look like!

It's cool, man. I think I just inadvertently offended him, I apologised. Some things were said and taken the wrong way or to heart. I'm sure it's water under the bridge now.

Yep and that's a picture of Thor from this year's movie. Not a big deal, but you would think they'd have new art anyway and not just copy and paste old.

The overall design is nice, I personally would've like each character to have a unique card as seen with GI Joe, but oh well.

The packaging isn't as important to me as it is that we get a Hawkeye and Black Widow as well, otherwise it's not a complete team.

Looks good to me- the armor sould have the triangular unibeam- as the Avengers takes place after IM2...I keep waiting on the cast list to get made public via IMDB- rumors abound that Don Cheedle is in the movie...which mean that when the fecal matter hits the oscilating rotor, it's War Machine time, baby!

question are these the 4 inch figures and also are we losing articulation in this line like torso joints and all??

Hard to tell scale from the pics, but the loss of waist articulation is a big lose for me considering Iron Man would be one of the only figures I'd get from this line. Did not notice that at first.

I totally agree. If this is the same IM from IM2 repackaged, it'll stay on the pegs a long time, just like the current IM2 stuff in loads on the pegs.

Please no X-Men in that line. I don't want to get pulled into that one too.

Too bad Wolverine is an Avenger. :p