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-   -   What if there were BAF MU? (https://www.toyark.com/forums/what-if-there-were-baf-mu-71496/)

Do Boy 10-14-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 179883)
As a ML collector I must say I have had to buy many figures I did not want and still don't like. Just to get a complete BAF

Does that mean you are against BAF MU? Because in your first post your were all for it lol

domshen 10-14-2011 05:56 PM

I love Gigantic battles except for the fact that they are fricking exclusive and I can NEVER FIND THEM IN WALMART! So I think that if they did a mass retail release of BAF that I could possibly find in other stores besides that depressing crapshack that makes me hate humanity i say WOOHOO! LMAO ;-)

Jason Abbadon 10-14-2011 06:01 PM

BAF in Mu would double the price and kill the line- each package would need to be twoce as large too..which would mean less figures on shelves, less characters per wave and less waves.

Everything thats made MU successful would be ruined.

Also, lets be honest: ML BAFs are pretty hit and miss. Galactus was terrible compared with the MU version...MODOK and fin Fang Foom were great but not many people wanted them back then and Blob...really!?

No...we already have the Gigantic Battles and Select figures for big stuff.

Do Boy 10-14-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon (Post 179912)
BAF in Mu would double the price and kill the line- each package would need to be twoce as large too..which would mean less figures on shelves, less characters per wave and less waves.

Everything thats made MU successful would be ruined.

Also, lets be honest: ML BAFs are pretty hit and miss. Galactus was terrible compared with the MU version...MODOK and fin Fang Foom were great but not many people wanted them back then and Blob...really!?

No...we already have the Gigantic Battles and Select figures for big stuff.

Twice the price??? Come on now. That's just being over zealous. And why would the packaging need to be twice the size???? How big do you think a MU limb is?

Jason Abbadon 10-14-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Do Boy (Post 179913)
Twice the price??? Come on now. That's just being over zealous. And why would the packaging need to be twice the size???? How big do you think a MU limb is?

well, Galactus' leg was like 6", and Fin Fang Foom's head is abour 5x4"...so yeah- added to the MU fig's packaging...about twice as big.

so if the BAF is going to be like ML- making something big, it'll take a larger package.

As large as a Iron Man 6" fig....at least.

Consider that DCU and the new ML figs are going to be as much as $17-18, so...


Also, smaller figures have greater restock and turn over than larger ones- smaller packages are more attractive to parents buying multiple gifts too.

If the BAF only makes a Apoclyspe-sized fig, it's still going to seriously add to shipping (due to weight) and packaging.
Less figs per case which means either smaller waves or less distribution.

omega145 10-14-2011 06:16 PM

Great idea, I mean why in the hell couldn't they do this? They already charge the same price if not more for GI Joes that have way more accessories. It'd also give all of us incentives to buy even the repaints or figures we don't want. But then again most of us get them all anyway, Ummm yea this'll never happen. :(

Do Boy 10-14-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon (Post 179925)
well, Galactus' leg was like 6", and Fin Fang Foom's head is abour 5x4"...so yeah- added to the MU fig's packaging...about twice as big.

so if the BAF is going to be like ML- making something big, it'll take a larger package.

As large as a Iron Man 6" fig....at least.

Consider that DCU and the new ML figs are going to be as much as $17-18, so...


Also, smaller figures have greater restock and turn over than larger ones- smaller packages are more attractive to parents buying multiple gifts too.

If the BAF only makes a Apoclyspe-sized fig, it's still going to seriously add to shipping (due to weight) and packaging.
Less figs per case which means either smaller waves or less distribution.

Well like I said in my first post not a huge figure. Just a figure that would be better scale. Or just an extra figure all around. The baf droids are at-at size or chicken walker size.

Jason Abbadon 10-14-2011 06:23 PM

Yeah but BAF droids cost more, right? MU's price point is what keeps retailors buying.


I totally think MU needs the level of acessories that GI Joes gets- that would be flippin incredible.
Spidey could have a camera webbed up, backpack, etc.

Each MU should come with an unamsked alternate head!

Do Boy 10-14-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon (Post 179936)
Yeah but BAF droids cost more, right? MU's price point is what keeps retailors buying.


I totally think MU needs the level of acessories that GI Joes gets- that would be flippin incredible.
Spidey could have a camera webbed up, backpack, etc.

Each MU should come with an unamsked alternate head!

To be honest I don't know if they cost more or if it was even a lot more. I stopped collecting star wars around that time. But I guess you are right the cost increase wont make the occasional collector happy.

Jason Abbadon 10-14-2011 06:29 PM

Better to keep the waves comin fast and furious like they are- even so-so waves like the current one are soon swept aside for more Awesome!

CLASSIFIED 10-14-2011 07:43 PM

Sure, why not.

Maybe they could do something like they're doing with Young Justice, and you build an enviroment instead of a figure.

I think one of the selling points of the line is the cost though, and they re-use a lot of parts, and unique BAF pieces with each fig could drive cost up, so maybe no.

Maybe you should add a poll?

afgoosett 10-14-2011 07:52 PM

How about buy four or five of any figures you want and send in the packaging or upc's and pay shipping for an exclusive figure. Let's say every 2 months they introduce a new figure you can get by buying four or five and sending in proof of purchases. Maybe have some sort of fan's poll to determine said characer. Kinda like a build a figure except you get to buy figures you want and you don't feel forced to buy any you don't want. It'd probably cost them about the same too. I mean yeah MOC collectors would be fucked since it'd involve opening the figures or discarding part of the cards but hey build a figures force them to open them anyway.

CLASSIFIED 10-14-2011 07:57 PM

That's a pretty good idea afgoosett.

behindthemask 10-14-2011 07:58 PM

If the waves were small, price didn't increase and distribution was full nobody would complain. The completists would buy them all, the broke and selective crew picks the ones they want and either sells/trades/throws out the baf parts. *Guy at my work bought a bunch of Ml figures from the FFF line and through out all the baf parts, I was like I hate you, I would of taken them in a heartbeat. The valid point mentioned, is that adding the baf factor, makes you buy figures you don't necessarily want. Mind you this is only subject to you wanting the baf alot, and willing to pay $10 for another spidey figure so that hulk can have a right arm.

I like it and I don't. to me it would be cool in the sence of getting more bang for your buck, but it then turns everybody into completists. or resort to ebay when your missing a piece. I'd say MU if it ain't broke don't fix it. lets worry about quality control and distribution before we even think BAF lol.

CLASSIFIED 10-14-2011 08:12 PM

I was thinking the same thing when you said, "If it aint broke, don't fix it."

Fortune 10-14-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 179993)
Sure, why not.

Maybe they could do something like they're doing with Young Justice, and you build an enviroment instead of a figure.

I think one of the selling points of the line is the cost though, and they re-use a lot of parts, and unique BAF pieces with each fig could drive cost up, so maybe no.

Maybe you should add a poll?

Trust me DCUC proved you don't need unique BAF pieces to make different BAFs

CLASSIFIED 10-14-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 180052)
Trust me DCUC proved you don't need unique BAF pieces to make different BAFs

That's a vert good point.

On an unrelated topic, my favorite DCUC BAF is Chemo, SSSS gurgle.

Fortune 10-14-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Do Boy (Post 179902)
Does that mean you are against BAF MU? Because in your first post your were all for it lol

Nope I am still all for it. But I do see why people would dislike it. I say any sort of incentive is good. Kinda like Im hella excited that if I buy two DCUC figures I get a third free lol (cuz I only need two more peices)

Jason Abbadon 10-14-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afgoosett (Post 180014)
How about buy four or five of any figures you want and send in the packaging or upc's and pay shipping for an exclusive figure. Let's say every 2 months they introduce a new figure you can get by buying four or five and sending in proof of purchases. Maybe have some sort of fan's poll to determine said characer. Kinda like a build a figure except you get to buy figures you want and you don't feel forced to buy any you don't want. It'd probably cost them about the same too. I mean yeah MOC collectors would be fucked since it'd involve opening the figures or disgarding part of the cards but hey build a figures force them to open them anyway.

Excellent idea- I've been saying that a UPC send away is the way to go for yearly exclusives, but Marvel just keeps pushing the Digital Subscription gag on us.


I'd go with quarterly exclusives or maybe some special promo like a sky cycle or variant. I'm still all about the alternate unmasked head though- stuff like that should be included like they are with GI Joe's crazy huge amount of extras for the same price point.

After all, if MU can sell (big!)Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet for the same price as (crappy) Madrox with nothing, they can add in extras like swappable heads and hands (though that might hurt their "Ages 4 and up" standing some with the whole "choking hazard" bit).

FancyPants 10-15-2011 04:05 AM

I want a MODOK, probly have to buy the BAF

CLASSIFIED 10-15-2011 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FancyPants (Post 180261)
I want a MODOK, probly have to buy the BAF

Dude, I was thinking the same thing with this thread!

Do Boy 10-15-2011 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FancyPants (Post 180261)
I want a MODOK, probly have to buy the BAF

Well this isn't really a i wanted thread. But we are getting one in a gigantic battle :)

bmorr 10-15-2011 05:48 AM

i cant wait for this MODOK to hit walmart next year or whenever only to sell out in a day like the last ones that hit my area. sniff...frost giant...

Snowflakian 10-15-2011 05:59 AM

I'm not sure about BAF, they've done pretty well with GBP, and the bulkier figures as is so far.

I wouldn't mind seeing Build-a-vehicle though, like an all ghost rider wave that makes his bike, with a vengence figure or ketch figure that shanges the bike front to vengence's or Ketch's. Not sure if this would work for the modern fantasticars, but the classic pipes one could be done this way too. The waves could focus on relation to the theme too. (Ghost Rider characters for GR's BAF, Fantastic 4 characters and variants for theirs.) That way if you want the BAV, you'll be getting the wave anyway and it'll reflect that wave. Like an all avengers wave that builds Hawkeye's skycycle.

Other than that, I'd prefer a more build-a-scene way to do it like the YJ figures are doing the hall of justice. That'd be rocking, but for varieties sake, make it something more interchangeable and interlocking like sidewalks with building walls and ways to make them dip back like alleys, or street pieces. That way with every figure you can add to your dio, but you can also trade with friends to get the pieces you want if you get doubles. So maybe even blind pack them and randomize them to allow for that. Unless the wave is focusing on something like the bugle. Then it'd have to be each piece to a certain figure.

If they must do a BAF for MU though. I'd say right off the bat they should do Ultimate Nimrod of the new Ultimate X-Men and have that wave be Ultimate Kitty Pryde/Shroud, New Ultimate Spiderman, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate Wolverine, the current Ultimate Ironman, Ultimate Cable, and Ultimate Jean Grey. But then again, I just want that new Ultimate Nimrod as a figure like yesterday.

Blood 10-15-2011 08:05 AM

speaking as a collector outside the US, I think it's a great idea, exclusives like gigantic battles and packs are really difficult (and expensive) to get here


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