It doesnt have to change her personality for it to scar her dude. Im still affected to this day by some terrible things that were said to me, and things Ive seen in my youth. Do not underestimate the impression we make, and the examples we set, for our children. Sometimes it never stops. And why would he NOT want his daughter to come and see him? I love toys, but I know when to draw the line.

Nah man. It's not like he's shoving those figures in her face and saying, "Freddy's gonna come kill you tonight..." because that'd just be cruel. The furnace in the boiler room of my parents' house used to scare the hell out of me but that doesn't mean they should've changed the furnace out. I just stopped going near the furnace. Even as a child, I knew I had some responsibility to my own well being. That's why little kids instinctively run away and cover their eyes when they see scary things.

Well let me ask you this Chris: At what point DOES it scar the psyche of a child permanently? At what point is it enough? They go through enough hurt, and harm going through life...they dont need it at home too man.

See now that's different. Somebody said something to you that scared you and scarred you for life. I didn't say he wouldn't want his daughter to come see him, I just said that if he has to keep them in his room, then she'll probably avoid his room and that it's something he'll have to accept and live with. There are some things that scared me as a child that still scare me now. For example, the thought of someone attacking me with a chainsaw. However, I also know that chances are, this isn't going to happen so I don't think about it all the time. I don't know what happened to you as a child, but I think it goes deeper than seeing a Jason action figure in daddy's room and that's a real shame.

[QUOTE=IhsantheCursed;199729]Get the lock or toss the figures. Imo that stuff can really scare, and scar, a child's mind.[/QUOTE/]


Yeah...I don't think I'm gonna toss out figures that are worth about 500 bucks altogether. So I'll just get a new lock. Do you have kids IhsantheCursed? Because you act like you do....

[QUOTE=RexLewis85;199756]No sir, but I know what it means to be one who is afraid.

First of all, not every child goes through tons of hurt. Secondly, it's impossible to estimate what it takes to scar a child's psyche. Like I said, I actually watched some scary movies as a child and I'm not scarred by them. It's down to the child and what makes him/her tick. I used to live in constant fear of the dumbest things and as I got older, I realized that these fears were unfounded. I'm not telling him to expose her child to his scary toys, I'm just saying that if she doesn't like it, she'll avoid it herself. Or he can put it somewhere where she won't see it. It's crazy to think that every child will freak out because of a scary toy. You know how scary Tim Burton's Batman was for me? I avoided the toy aisles just in case I ran into a Joker figure. I'm fine. I don't hate clowns. I don't want to kill clowns. I don't feel a need to dress like a clown. I don't even think about clowns, ever.

I raised my little sister (you may say I still am) so I try do what I think any guy with integrity would do in order to protect her from the shitheads that inhabit this world. That said, when she asks me questions, I answer them as honestly as possible because she is not just family, she is very intelligent, and I don't want to sugar coat things when we talk. She is also free to watch scary movies and often asks about my crazy action figure collection, to which I do my best to explain what the characters and subjects represent. I guess it all boils down to being honest, explaining that some stories and characters represent the good and bad that we face in everyday life, and hope that they will understand.

I understand that you had a bad experience so you're afraid that everyone else is going to grow up scarred by scary toys but even you need to admit that some of your opinions are fueled by fear and prejudice. You've got to remember that a lot of our childhood fears are unfounded and illogical and for most people, at some point in their lives, they grow out of their childhood fears. As parents, you're meant to explain things to your children. This all goes back to omega's point about lazy parenting. If you just take the time to explain to your child that the 6 inch figure on your desk is just a toy and that it can't hurt her, it goes a long way. And if it still scares your child, then put it somewhere else.

[QUOTE=IhsantheCursed;199765]Then how can you give any advice on raising a child if you haven't experienced it for yourself? As thechris said, just because you had some scary experiences(that may have messed you up) as a child it doesn't mean all children will. All kids are wired differently. Some can handle things like that, some can't. Alot of it comes down to how the parents chose to raise their kid or kids. It's not like my daughter has nightmares about the "spooky" action figures in my room, if that were the case, I would be more concerned...but there's no point in me getting rid of figures it's taken me years to compile, when I can just as easily make sure she doesn't go in my room. If something as harmless as the Footloose remake disturbed you in such a manner, how do you handle movies like Saw, or Hostel, or The Human Centipede? None of which should be watched by children, but again with Footloose, and back to what you were originally talking about, I don't see alot of kids going to watch that movie...first of all I don't know any of today's kids who even remember the original. This movie was more for adults that enjoyed the original. Kids do watch things like this sometimes(remember I was 5 and watching slasher movies) but I don't see what the problem is...so there's some sensuality in it....all kids need to know about that eventually anyway. I learned about the birds and the bees at a very young age...and it didn't scar me. As for vulgarity, most kids hear their parents using vulgar language at a young age, and if the parents are worth a damn they let their kids know that it's a "bad word" and they shouldn't say it. That's usually good enough. But I really don't see something like Footloose scarring a child...hell in truth, I don't see any children watching it...I don't really see many adults watching it, because it's probably going to suck. :)

This might be the most ridiculous thread on the forum right now with how far this has all gone. Kind of pointless to argue with someone who has a one sided point of view thechris and rexlewis.

It's also extremely important to note, that just like adults, different children (at *any* age) will have different phobias, and different levels of sensitivity.
Something that scares one child absolutely shitless, will have no effect on the next.

Therefor, what will "scar them for life" is completely subjective.

I was a teenager when Jurassic Park came out. But I've been so enthralled by dinosaurs my whole life, even as a small child... five or six, JP would have been the most awesome thing for me, ever.
I also was facinated by the movie ALIENS, when I was little. That movie didn't scare me one bit.
But Chewbacca in Star Wars scared the piss out of me so badly, my parents had to take me out of the theater (Or so they tell me. I was too young to rememver when Jedi came out. But maybe this is why I hate Star Wars, lol!). Stephen King's It also scared me so badly that for a few years I was afraid of killer clowns coming up out of the bathtub drain.

Point being, what scared me and what didn't is not appliable to another child. Another child may be terrified that raptors are gonna break down the door and eat them, while at the same time laughing at me for something so rediculous as a clown coming out of the bathdrain.

It's all subjective, and only those who actually know a certain child can make a judgement over what he or she can handle, and what will scar them for life.

peronally... IMO this thread sucks and is getting depressing, this needs to stop! Calling in the MOD Squad!

Yeah I'm done with this thread now, I pretty much said what I had to say, now i'm done. I don't know how the thread went on as long as it did... with all the touchy subject matter and what have you.

[QUOTE=RexLewis85;199947]I hate this attitude. Suddenly when you have a child you are omniscent? Usually the statement "you don't have kids so you don't know" is being used to justify behavior that Casey Anthoiny knows is not good for kids.

I've never flown a plane but if I'm in one I know it's bad for the pilot to crash. I'm not a doctor but It's probably as bad idea to drink paint thinner. I'm not a cop but when I saw someone breaking into my friends car I was smart enough to ask them to stop.

Heck, in an example from my home state I'm not a gun dealer but I know its a bad idea to hand an 8 year old an Uzi. In that case there were people who said "I think thats a bad idea" Want to guess what the reply was?

Yes, sometimes without going through it you can know.

to add my personal tow cents to this, i grew up in the eighties and have seen a lot change over the years, in my household we went to church and were raised to believe everyone is equal and that the choices one makes in life determines the kind of person they are. Sadly in my eyes these things are not taught today, when you see a child throwing a fit and the parent to scared to yell at them or heaven forbid spank them for their outlandish behavior is wrong. Today it's all about letting your kids express themselves and be who they want..i call bull on that, they need discipline in their lives and structure, something a lot of parents are sadly to busy to give. I do see a lot wrong in the world today but know that all i can do is try to raise my kids the best i can and try to instill in them morals and values that will help them become good men not hate mongers..again just my two cents

*sigh* can we get this shut down?? Or moved somewhere off the sidebar,its got no place being there clogging up a spot instead of toy talk,it has no revelance to toys,its on the verge of becoming blown out of preportion,and sooner or later some-one will say something they shouldnt and end up getting an infraction or banned.

Ive wanted to say many things but have not...because Im respecting everyones opinion on this (even if I disagree). I dont see what wrong with this thread in anyway....but If Im wrong - hey, close it Mods.

Just FYI, posting to complain about the thread being on the sidebar is helping to keep it on the sidebar. ;)

Well, it's kinda preachy, and exists for nothing than to say how one person feels about how good or bad the world is. It's borderline political, and borderline religious (Not saying that it's intended to be, but it could very easily fall into that)

You open up a thread that seems ment to fuel some passionate debates, and then keep posting how you disagree with everything but refuse to say so.

Basically, the entire thread is borderline flamebait/trolling. Again, I'm not accusing your intent to be a troll or a flamebait thread. Just that the subject matter is eighty to ninty percent there already.

As soon as I saw the thread title, I honestly thought it would have been locked already.

Really? When I saw the thread title, I thought Bob Backlund was making a comeback in Mattel's WWE Legends line...

http://images.wikia.com/prowrestling..._Backlund3.jpg

I'm sorry, I have no idea what that means. :confused:
I hate wrestling, and any wrestling joke or reference is completely lost on me.

Ive not seen anyone flameing or trolling here (Including myself). Ive not seen politics or religion involved so far either. "Keep posting how I disagree but refuse to say so"? The reason I "refuse" to say so is that my responces would involve religion so instead of breaking the rules I choose not to respond (despite how badly I want to). Seems like sometimes folks are trying to actually get me to say my views here dispite it being a rules violation (which I never forsaw when I was creating this thread). Maybe your right about this thread...I just really dont see it. Prehaps its gotten off-topic a bit though...

Okay, I thought I was clear in my post, but I guess not, so let me say this again.

I'm not accusing you of trolling or flaming, nor anyone else in the thread. I'm quite impressed it hasn't decended into such, to be honest.

What I am saying is the thread *is* borderline to that, and borderline political and religious, despite it's intents. It's the subject matter itself that makes it so. Especially when you don't have children yourself, and then make a fairly hardcore stand on what's destroying our children.

Many have stated they don't feel this is an appropriate topic for a toy/comicbook/geek site.

I in no way mean to be disrespectful, but I quite honestly don't see how you *couldn't* have forseen this.

Well this is the "General Discussion" area of a "Toy/Geek site" so I felt as long as it didnt violate any of the rules of the forum I was okay to post it...thats as far as my line of reasoning went. I do not feel the need to justify myself further in this reguard as , again, no rules have been broken to my knowledge. I love how not many think this thread was a good idea, yet many have posted here stating their views.

ANYWAY....as this thread has gotten so much off-topic, and many are dissatisfied with the turn this thread has taken prehaps a closure is the best way to go.

EDIT: And no Crazy, I did not in anyway forsee ppl attempting to egg-me into stating my religious views when creating this thread.