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BlackMagnus 11-15-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201290)
Ah I see. So nostalgia rules with you lol


Hmmmm I can def see where your coming from all though I am a bit different. Your personal life is rarely held against your art with me

In certain cases yes but, when you are the spokeman for a generations, a household name for all that is good, that image gets tarnished when your personal life comes out. Like you of all people should practice what you preach.

How would the parents of kids react if Mr. Rodgers turns out was a pedophile, or Miley Cyrus a crack whore satan worshipper?

Fortune 11-15-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201296)
In certain cases yes but, when you are the spokeman for a generations, a household name for all that is good, that image gets tarnished when your personal life comes out. Like you of all people should practice what you preach.

How would the parents of kids react if Mr. Rodgers turns out was a pedophile, or Miley Cyrus a crack whore satan worshipper?

Wait...shes not?

Yeah I def see where you are coming from and I think I havent seen enough of what hes done outside the ring. I think once I read more about it I may get exactly what your feeling.

BlackMagnus 11-15-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201305)
Wait...shes not?

Yeah I def see where you are coming from and I think I havent seen enough of what hes done outside the ring. I think once I read more about it I may get exactly what your feeling.

In a nutshell, he was the Dudley Do Right of the 80's, we all looked up to him. He tought the values of acting right, take care of yourself, others, do good in school etc. Finding out what kind of person he really is kinda negates all of that and tarnishes the admiration I once had for him. I will still give it to him, he is the biggest name in wrestling, EVER. That does not mean he was the greatest wrestler ever, just the best entertainer. The enstilled morals and I know my other comparisons may have been a bit extreme but, they are figure heads of their own generation.

Fortune 11-15-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201321)
In a nutshell, he was the Dudley Do Right of the 80's, we all looked up to him. He tought the values of acting right, take care of yourself, others, do good in school etc. Finding out what kind of person he really is kinda negates all of that and tarnishes the admiration I once had for him. I will still give it to him, he is the biggest name in wrestling, EVER. That does not mean he was the greatest wrestler ever, just the best entertainer. The enstilled morals and I know my other comparisons may have been a bit extreme but, they are figure heads of their own generation.

Yeah I know all about him from the 80s but I really hadnt heard about any transgression

BlackMagnus 11-15-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201323)
Yeah I know all about him from the 80s but I really hadnt heard about any transgression

Not withstanding what has been in the news the last few years, just read some books written by other wrestlers about him and about how shrewd he is when it comes to business, never wanting to put anyone over, always having to have creative control, massive ego, constantly keeping the younger talent down, just a straight up asshole in every other aspect. Most of this came from Flairs book, that's why it almost brought me to tears seein Ric kiss his ass in TNA, it was all about the money and if he wanted a job while Hogan was there, he will do what ever the fuck was asked of him.

Fortune 11-15-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201327)
Not withstanding what has been in the news the last few years, just read some books written by other wrestlers about him and about how shrewd he is when it comes to business, never wanting to put anyone over, always having to have creative control, massive ego, constantly keeping the younger talent down, just a straight up asshole in every other aspect. Most of this came from Flairs book, that's why it almost brought me to tears seein Ric kiss his ass in TNA, it was all about the money and if he wanted a job while Hogan was there, he will do what ever the fuck was asked of him.

Wow from the way Flair worships him on TNA id never guess he had an issue with him :/

BlackMagnus 11-15-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201338)
Wow from the way Flair worships him on TNA id never guess he had an issue with him :/

Exactly, check out the book, it was one helluva read.

The only other comparison I can think of is John Cena. Whether we like him or not he is (and has been) HUGE. Kids, women, parents, uneducated wrestling fans ;). What do you think would happen if tomorrow you saw him on the news getting arrested for beating his wife (if he has one, idk)....and the dog. As the investigation goes on, tax evasion, herion junky, collector of little boys underwear. We would never see, or hear, another damn word of John Cena. Again it is way out there with the comparison but, the point is, if you are in that kind of high profile spot, your real life will bite you in the ass hard if it turns out you are nothing more then a fucking hypocrite.

Fortune 11-15-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201341)
Exactly, check out the book, it was one helluva read.

The only other comparison I can think of is John Cena. Whether we like him or not he is (and has been) HUGE. Kids, women, parents, uneducated wrestling fans ;). What do you think would happen if tomorrow you saw him on the news getting arrested for beating his wife (if he has one, idk)....and the dog. As the investigation goes on, tax evasion, herion junky, collector of little boys underwear. We would never see, or hear, another damn word of John Cena. Again it is way out there with the comparison but, the point is, if you are in that kind of high profile spot, your real life will bite you in the ass hard if it turns out you are nothing more then a fucking hypocrite.

Pfft forget not hearing anything more about him. We dont hear anything about Chris Bennoit. If Cena pulled that the WWE would come here and erase our memories.

CLASSIFIED 11-15-2011 07:58 PM

WWF Wrestlemania V - Hulk Hogan Interview - YouTube

BlackMagnus 11-15-2011 09:07 PM

John Cena Talks About Sex, Banging An Obsese Woman! A MUST HEAR! - YouTube

Must hear!!

Fortune 11-15-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201493)
John Cena Talks About Sex, Banging An Obsese Woman! A MUST HEAR! - YouTube

Must hear!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats too funny

CLASSIFIED 11-16-2011 05:04 AM

I can no longer be a member of the Cenation!

The picture of a squeaky clean John Cena I had in my head has forever been tarnished.

"U Can't See Me..." No sir, after that, I won't see you.

BlackMagnus 11-16-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 201651)
I can no longer be a member of the Cenation!

The picture of a squeaky clean John Cena I had in my head has forever been tarnished.

"U Can't See Me..." No sir, after that, I won't see you.

Ha ha, I see what you did there, you funny.

Fortune 11-16-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 201651)
I can no longer be a member of the Cenation!

The picture of a squeaky clean John Cena I had in my head has forever been tarnished.

"U Can't See Me..." No sir, after that, I won't see you.

I have always had such a hard time with Cena. I mean I do not dislike him. He puts on a good show. But I do see why people would dislike him :/ I do however hate his five moves of doom.

CLASSIFIED 11-16-2011 11:28 AM

Magnus's Cena post made me like him more.

I also liked it when he urinated on the Taker's parent's grave.

Cena was most likely upset at Taker for defeating Hogan.

Fortune 11-16-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 201776)
Magnus's Cena post made me like him more.

I also liked it when he urinated on the Taker's parent's grave.

Cena was most likely upset at Taker for defeating Hogan.

Wrestlemania 28 undertaker goes 20-0 over hulk hogan just to make CLASSIFIED happy ;)

CLASSIFIED 11-16-2011 11:38 AM

That will make me sad.

I'd rather see Austin/ Hogan at Mania.

Fortune 11-16-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 201785)
That will make me sad.

I'd rather see Austin/ Hogan at Mania.

If we get Austin at Wrestlemania it will be against Punk. Maybe by then Randy can go back to being a heel and face hogan. A wrestlemania of legends vs new age would make me very happy ...especially if Randy beat Hogan :)

BlackMagnus 11-16-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201788)
If we get Austin at Wrestlemania it will be against Punk. Maybe by then Randy can go back to being a heel and face hogan. A wrestlemania of legends vs new age would make me very happy ...especially if Randy beat Hogan :)

That sounds like a plan! Let's see-

Cena/Rock
Punk/Austin
Orton/Hogan
/Foley
/Taker
?/?

Fortune 11-16-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201799)
That sounds like a plan! Let's see-

Cena/Rock
Punk/Austin
Orton/Hogan
/Foley
/Taker
?/?

I think it depends on whos over at the time but I wanna add one

Miz/Jericho

Maybe Rey/Undertaker with them ending eachothers career but taker getting the win :/

BlackMagnus 11-16-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 201807)
I think it depends on whos over at the time but I wanna add one

Miz/Jericho

Maybe Rey/Undertaker with them ending eachothers career but taker getting the win :/

Miz and Jericho, good one but, I don't think he will be going back anytime soon...from Twitter post-

"Let me get something straight...I will never wrestle for the WWE again. But there is some big news coming up in the world of dance..." There was no context to the tweet, as it wasn't clear if Jericho was sarcastically addressing a rumor on his WWE future or making an announcement he won't be returning to WWE.

:(

Maybe Cara/Rey?

CLASSIFIED 11-16-2011 12:45 PM

They've been brewing a Jericho/ Punk fued via twitter for some time.

I've already seen Orton/ Hogan at Summer Slam a few years back.

Austin/ Hogan would be the money match IMO.

HHH could bury Taker via a burried alive match.

Fortune 11-16-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMagnus (Post 201818)
Miz and Jericho, good one but, I don't think he will be going back anytime soon...from Twitter post-

"Let me get something straight...I will never wrestle for the WWE again. But there is some big news coming up in the world of dance..." There was no context to the tweet, as it wasn't clear if Jericho was sarcastically addressing a rumor on his WWE future or making an announcement he won't be returning to WWE.

:(

Maybe Cara/Rey?

Cara/Rey would be good also Id like to see Cody/Booker T. I honestly don't believe Jericho. Maybe its hopeful thinking but I just dont see it

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED (Post 201824)
They've been brewing a Jericho/ Punk fued via twitter for some time.

I've already seen Orton/ Hogan at Summer Slam a few years back.

Austin/ Hogan would be the money match IMO.

HHH could bury Taker via a burried alive match.

I would rage ended his career 19-1 I would never accept it.

RexLewis85 11-16-2011 04:06 PM

Hogan doesn't matter much to me, even as a child I was pretty much immune to his bullshit say your prayers and take your vitamins mentality. When all that stuff came out about him, I wasn't really that surprised. Hogan is a good entertainer, but I hate the idea that he's the most popular wrestler in the world. He probably is the most recognized, but if he was as great as everyone says he is, He would be running the WWE instead of crawling back to it after his run in TNA. Also, There's no way Taker will get beat at Wrestlmania. They'll let him retire with the streak intact, because as Triple H said before this past Mania, it's what keeps Undertaker going. The streak is the reason he's there. After he goes 20 and 0 against whoever it is they bring in for him to beat down, he'll finally retire. I mean the man's been on the verge of retirement for the past 5 years. He's done all there is to do in the business, and he's already proven he doesn't need to wrestle to stay on his feet. He's made enough money in the time that he's been there to live comfortably for the rest of his life. Taker won't get beat at WM. Taker is WM. Now I'd love to see Austin vs Punk at Wrestlemania as well. That would be a hell of a match, but I don't know if Austin would do it, he's got really bad knees. Truthfully wrestling hasn't been the same since Austin left...before the time of Cena, Austin was the face of the WWE. For the longest time he was a household name, and yes, he even overshadowed Hulk Hogan for awhile. So to see one controversial icon vs the original controversial icon, that would be epic.

CLASSIFIED 11-16-2011 04:59 PM

Austin has been teasing a return to the ring for some time.


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