Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819320)

Where are the FF pics on Fwoosh? I looked but couldn't find them. Also, the Ark could use an action photo thread...it's fun to see what members come up with.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 819321)

I just saw them on their homepage.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819323)

I am a little disappointed by Super Skrull.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 819325)

I am too, not because I think he's poorly done but because he's such a non-BAF in final delivery. He could easily have been sold on his own, two of the figures you need to get to build him are bigger than he is. I feel like the BAF should have been somebody like Dragon Man and then Super Skrull could've just been a standard release somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 819228)

Hey, look what Amazon finally decided to ship out and deliver in a reasonable manner despite them being bought on Cyber Monday:

https://i.imgur.com/1khlB5K.jpg



I know. It was something I never expected to happen outside of my dreams. Now I hope Criterion can someone do a Heisei set covering 84-Final Wars.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819320)

Where are the FF pics on Fwoosh? I looked but couldn't find them. Also, the Ark could use an action photo thread...it's fun to see what members come up with.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819334)

Right here: Hasbro: Marvel Legends Fantastic Four Super Skrull Wave Video Review and Quick Pics |

The pictures seems to corroborate the general view on the wave: the FF are low-effort, Super-Skrull and She-Hulk are cool, and Doctor Doom is perfect.

Originally Posted by kenm2474 (Post 819333)

Do the extra heads from the 3 pak fit on the regular cyclops?

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819334)

Right here: Hasbro: Marvel Legends Fantastic Four Super Skrull Wave Video Review and Quick Pics |

The pictures seems to corroborate the general view on the wave: the FF are low-effort, Super-Skrull and She-Hulk are cool, and Doctor Doom is perfect.

Originally Posted by kenm2474 (Post 819333)

Do the extra heads from the 3 pak fit on the regular cyclops?

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 819366)

After reading many reviews, I'm so glad that I decided to pass on the entire wave except for Doom. Sure if I ordered the whole wave, DS would probably have shipped and I'd have my Doom now, but I'm going to be patient.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819338)

Lol thanks, but as I mentioned in subsequent posts and edits, I found the page.

Is that really the general opinion??? Are you sure? ;) Well, its a good thing I'm not a consensus guy.

...as far as Kl'rt is concerned, outside of the heads, I'm still a bit on the fence and it isn't because he's a BAF that's standard size - although that's not winning any points either.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819376)

Sorry, didn’t see that you had found it. Seems to be consensus, at least from what I’ve seen. They’re underwhelming. I like Kl’rt, although he should be bigger. I suppose the idea would be that he can double as a normal Skrull. Which would be cooler if he was a Walgreens exclusive, as originally intended. Although, he would have been a complete cluster to buy, if Moonstar is any indication.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819379)

No worries, it's the sentiment that counts.

Obviously, I'm running counter to the grain on this wave, which isn't unusual. I love the FF, second favorite team outside of the Defenders (followed by Flight), and I'm as happy with this blue and black team as I was with the TB blue and black alternatives. Happier, actually, because they aren't straight reuses as the old TBs were. As far as the complaints of the FF feeling phoned in, they appear to have the same QC issues I experienced with at least one of each of my sets (I bought two of each) of the Family Matters, Polaris and Havok, Love Triangle, and Alpha Flight packs making that more of a recent Hasbro trend than something specific to this wave. Additionally, as mentioned, they're not exact reuses which I appreciate as at least a slight departure from the gimmick used for Dani and the upcoming Cuckoos. But I was purposely being a goof with asking you about the 'general opinion' as that's something that's unquantifiable and largely anecdotal - the counter argument could be made based on my own opinion and the glowing responses within the comments of the Fwoosh review and it would be equally meaningful or meaningless depending on how you view these things.

About Kl'rt, I'm just not feeling the Hyperion torso and legs for whatever reason. Maybe it has to do with truly wanting an Annihilation Kl'rt rather than a classic version...

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819380)

Fair enough. I think the ire for this wave is mostly from Fantastic Four fans who are frustrated that four slots of a six figure wave are “wasted” on characters we’ve already gotten, when there is a vast ensemble of FF friends and foes who haven’t gotten their plastic day in the sun. Which is understandable. I appreciate the sentiment, as I personally would’ve preferred new characters to another version of the team, in outfits I’m not familiar with. Ultimately, it doesn’t really bother me, as I’m figuring we’ll see more Fantastic Four and more cosmic Marvel figures in general in the coming years. The desire for instant gratification makes it so that people get irked when the figures they want don’t come immediately. In my years of collecting, I’ve learned it’s an exercise in patience. As a huge Alpha Flight nerd myself, that boxset was gratifying. I waited years for it. By the way, if you’ll pardon the pun, how about an Annihilation wave?

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819380)

Fair enough. I think the ire for this wave is mostly from Fantastic Four fans who are frustrated that four slots of a six figure wave are “wasted” on characters we’ve already gotten, when there is a vast ensemble of FF friends and foes who haven’t gotten their plastic day in the sun.

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 819384)

Legends at time for me has started feeling like a money pit, and reselling can be such a headache.

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 819384)

My "ire" (per say) is not in the inclusion of the first family so hot off the Walgreens releases, but rather the obvious lack of TLC in how a majority of the figures were handled QC wise. Thin coats of blue, the horrible orange plastic used for Thing (and the terrible lemon flavored wash which rivals the original Big Time Spidey as one of the worst I've seen on a Legends figure) the obvious sculpted seams in Reed and Sue's headsculpts, stuck and fragile joints, the googly eyes...they are just hideous figures.

More frustrating is the reviewers seem to be missing these things because they are on either on that new figure high or they are in the back pocket of some of these Hasbro and don't want to offend. Only the Fwoosh reviews seemed to have a hint of honesty to them so far, but some stuff seemed glossed over there as well.

And honestly...I have no gripes on the costume choice...as I like the blue and black scheme...as it reminds me a bit of their costumes in Ultimate FF4, which was a book I enjoyed and how I was going to represent them on my shelf.

Now these types of QC issues are rampant in any number of waves, but for four of the figures to have very similar issues is atrocious...especially when the BAF is a much needed character and the remaining figures got so much love. I've been looking for an excuse to get the set honestly...because I really want Sooper Skrull, but after being a wave completionist for so long, Hasbro has broken me and I will need to go back to cherry picking because I just don't want to be stuck with any more bad figures that I need to be. Legends at time for me has started feeling like a money pit, and reselling can be such a headache.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 819386)

That said, I feel we can all agree on one thing: the stretchy fingers on Mr. Fantastic look really off-putting.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 819381)

Short of them stating as much, who really knows what the reasoning is regarding grousing on the internet? While what you say is reasonable and likely true for others outside of yourself, there's a world of subjective opinions and motivations out there.

Most of us that have spent time collecting Legends know the deal, there's a rubric for all of this and it revolves around ancillary/complementary media (movies or TV tie-ins) and anchoring sell-through on waves with familiar characters. It's for this reason so very many Avenger waves featured Cap, Iron Man, and Thor. Most are also aware that Marvel has re-secured the FF and their emergence within the MCU is a far flung understanding and expectation. We are going to see many iterations of the core FF before all of this is said and done, so, based on your take, people may want to gird themselves for continued disappointment. As much as I'd love to see Diablo (box set with his Elements of Doom?) / the Frightful Four (another box?) / Mole Man (throw in some Moloids that I can have the Hulk toss around) / Molecule Man / Mephisto / Psycho Man / Mad Thinker and his awesome android / Abraxas / Salem's Seven (another box) and many others, I also know I'd be extremely lucky to see just a few of those characters sprinkled sparingly into waves. Not trying to dash hopes, just being candidly pragmatic.

Also, I've been pretty vociferous throughout the years about my want for an Annihilation wave/box/anything...so, yeah, I'm more than down for that along with many other things related to Marvel Cosmic:

http://www.toyark.com/would-you-like...egends-159608/