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Dr Kain 07-05-2020 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 837778)
Find the Target Widow on clearance today, grabbed her for weapons, probably gonna repurpose her as Colleen Wing. Suggestions on how best to do that, IE removing the gear without damaging, etc.

Hair dry her upper torso at the spot where it connects to the lower torso, pull it off, slide the belt off, and put it back on.

If you try to heat up the belt and pull it off through the legs you risk stretching the belt.

Anyway, it's slightly OT, but we spent part of the weekend watching the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy in 4K. Well, actually only the first two movies were in 4K as we watched the "superior" Editor's Cut of the third film, which is Blu-Ray only.

Spider-Man - It's a pretty good first attempt at making a live action Spider-Man movie. I really love how they are able to give us origin stories to both Spider-Man and Green Goblin and weave them into each other with fluid precision. Willem Defoe is just phenomenal as Norman Osborn as is JK Simmons as Jameson. Both of them feel like they were born to play those roles. Unfortuantely, everyone else is more of a miss than a hit. Tobey Maquire just looks too old to be playing a teenage Peter Parker, but he does pull off the nerdy side to Peter quite well. It's his Spider-Man side that needs some work as he barely ever quips and when he does, it doesn't feel natural. Also, Kirsten Dunst does not have the pizzazz to pull of Mary Jane and Jame Franco is way too laid back to make a good Harry. The action is pretty good and Danny Elfman's score kicks ass kinds of ass. Thankfully, the good outweights the bad to make a really solid adventure.

Spider-Man 2 - This one seems to get a lot of love and I'm not exactly sure why. Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie, but I'm not sure I can say it is better than the first one. Dunst does an even poorer job of portraying MJ here than she did in the previous one and she seems to be extremely selfish this time around. On the other hand, Franco has improved as Harry, though that's probably because he's playing a strung out version of the character. Maquire is pretty much the same as he was in the last one, albeit a bit more whiney, even less quippage, and I'm not sure I really understand how he can will his powers to not work, but okay. Molina is a fantastic Doc Ock that is hindered by having to be a sympathetic villain and of course, they kill him off because Peter revealed his identity to him, so that is lame. It does feature what is hands down the second best live action Spider-Man fight to date with the battle on the train. Sadly, I'm not a fan of the Evil Dead scenes Raimi did with Doc Ock in the hospital as it just feels way out of place along with all of the face up screaming that goes on afterwards. Regardless, like with the first one, there is so much good here that it is easy to ignore most of the negatives.

Spider-Man 3 - Oh boy, and here is when the train ride derailed as if Peter failed to stop it in the previous film. Now the Editor's Cut does bring in a few new scenes that do improve a few bits, it removes a few like that awful scene where the butler tells Harry Spider-Man did not kill his dad, but for the most part, it does nothing to make this movie not feel like it is three separate movies merged into one. There are too many plotlines going on and the last act feels like an entirely different movie. I have no who thought it was a good idea to do those news report segments during the final battle, but they are awful. Add on top that Harry's plot is too rushed and makes little sense (like why didn't MJ say, "Hey Pete, Harry has his memory back and is blackmailing me to break up with you, so just go with it."). The Sandman plot seems like it is supposed to be the film's main focus only for it to get sidelined and Sandman becomes an afterthought. Don't even get me started on that piss poor version of Eddie Brock (who was named dropped in the first film but is now the "new guy," what?) and Venom.

This movie should have been about Sandman and Peter's quest for vengeance, learning the error of going too far. The next one could have been on Harry unable to cope with Peter being Spider-Man and hires a man to take up the identity of Hobgoblin, only for him to fail, which entices Harry in the next film to become Green Goblin. Then have Venom show up after that with Peter getting the symbiote suit while he was dealing with Harry.

Well whatever, it's pointless to go on about what should have happened. In the end, the first two Raimi movies were solid while the third one is a mess. It's pretty much the Batman & Robin of the Spider-Man movies, though better than that. They're fun comic book films and like with Batman, no one has been able to top Elfman's score thus far.

usernamedustin 07-06-2020 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 837778)
Find the Target Widow on clearance today, grabbed her for weapons, probably gonna repurpose her as Colleen Wing. Suggestions on how best to do that, IE removing the gear without damaging, etc.



I think that we're only missing one of the modern ones (Retro Madripoor Wolverine), two if you count the Retro brown-and-tan release.

I removed the belt by popping the legs off and just sliding it off after heating it a bit with a hair dryer.

First appearance Wolverine also.

Veronica Mars 07-06-2020 06:56 AM

I think one of the things I'm going to miss the most from SDCC this year is the diorama:(

Dolemite 07-06-2020 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 837787)
Hair dry her upper torso at the spot where it connects to the lower torso, pull it off, slide the belt off, and put it back on.

If you try to heat up the belt and pull it off through the legs you risk stretching the belt.

Anyway, it's slightly OT, but we spent part of the weekend watching the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy in 4K. Well, actually only the first two movies were in 4K as we watched the "superior" Editor's Cut of the third film, which is Blu-Ray only.

Spider-Man - It's a pretty good first attempt at making a live action Spider-Man movie. I really love how they are able to give us origin stories to both Spider-Man and Green Goblin and weave them into each other with fluid precision. Willem Defoe is just phenomenal as Norman Osborn as is JK Simmons as Jameson. Both of them feel like they were born to play those roles. Unfortuantely, everyone else is more of a miss than a hit. Tobey Maquire just looks too old to be playing a teenage Peter Parker, but he does pull off the nerdy side to Peter quite well. It's his Spider-Man side that needs some work as he barely ever quips and when he does, it doesn't feel natural. Also, Kirsten Dunst does not have the pizzazz to pull of Mary Jane and Jame Franco is way too laid back to make a good Harry. The action is pretty good and Danny Elfman's score kicks ass kinds of ass. Thankfully, the good outweights the bad to make a really solid adventure.

Spider-Man 2 - This one seems to get a lot of love and I'm not exactly sure why. Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie, but I'm not sure I can say it is better than the first one. Dunst does an even poorer job of portraying MJ here than she did in the previous one and she seems to be extremely selfish this time around. On the other hand, Franco has improved as Harry, though that's probably because he's playing a strung out version of the character. Maquire is pretty much the same as he was in the last one, albeit a bit more whiney, even less quippage, and I'm not sure I really understand how he can will his powers to not work, but okay. Molina is a fantastic Doc Ock that is hindered by having to be a sympathetic villain and of course, they kill him off because Peter revealed his identity to him, so that is lame. It does feature what is hands down the second best live action Spider-Man fight to date with the battle on the train. Sadly, I'm not a fan of the Evil Dead scenes Raimi did with Doc Ock in the hospital as it just feels way out of place along with all of the face up screaming that goes on afterwards. Regardless, like with the first one, there is so much good here that it is easy to ignore most of the negatives.

Spider-Man 3 - Oh boy, and here is when the train ride derailed as if Peter failed to stop it in the previous film. Now the Editor's Cut does bring in a few new scenes that do improve a few bits, it removes a few like that awful scene where the butler tells Harry Spider-Man did not kill his dad, but for the most part, it does nothing to make this movie not feel like it is three separate movies merged into one. There are too many plotlines going on and the last act feels like an entirely different movie. I have no who thought it was a good idea to do those news report segments during the final battle, but they are awful. Add on top that Harry's plot is too rushed and makes little sense (like why didn't MJ say, "Hey Pete, Harry has his memory back and is blackmailing me to break up with you, so just go with it."). The Sandman plot seems like it is supposed to be the film's main focus only for it to get sidelined and Sandman becomes an afterthought. Don't even get me started on that piss poor version of Eddie Brock (who was named dropped in the first film but is now the "new guy," what?) and Venom.

This movie should have been about Sandman and Peter's quest for vengeance, learning the error of going too far. The next one could have been on Harry unable to cope with Peter being Spider-Man and hires a man to take up the identity of Hobgoblin, only for him to fail, which entices Harry in the next film to become Green Goblin. Then have Venom show up after that with Peter getting the symbiote suit while he was dealing with Harry.

Well whatever, it's pointless to go on about what should have happened. In the end, the first two Raimi movies were solid while the third one is a mess. It's pretty much the Batman & Robin of the Spider-Man movies, though better than that. They're fun comic book films and like with Batman, no one has been able to top Elfman's score thus far.

Yeah, I agree with pretty much every word you said. I did get a kick out of the Evil Dead scenes, but I agree that they were somewhat out of place.

Bruce Campbell's cameos were also outstanding. I would have loved to have eventually seen his Mysterio (it's since been revealed that's who he was all along).

Boy Blunder 07-06-2020 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usernamedustin (Post 837795)
First appearance Wolverine also.

Can't believe I forgot about Whiskers!

Anyone know around what time, loosely, we may be getting reveals today?

Veronica Mars 07-06-2020 09:04 AM

Toxin on the Monster Venom body.... Meh

SymbiSpidey 07-06-2020 09:04 AM

Looks like we've got our first look at Toxin. Unfortunately not the Pat Mulligan version I wanted but still looks cool:

https://i.imgur.com/MvtoEBO.png

hasbroherofan 07-06-2020 09:07 AM

https://i.redd.it/zmx8qkcif9951.jpg

Black Arbor 07-06-2020 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 837799)
Yeah, I agree with pretty much every word you said. I did get a kick out of the Evil Dead scenes, but I agree that they were somewhat out of place.

Bruce Campbell's cameos were also outstanding. I would have loved to have eventually seen his Mysterio (it's since been revealed that's who he was all along).

Hell, I have a strange love for SM3 as well, warts and all! It's obvious Raimi tried his best and put his own spin on a movie riddled with studio interference, and looking at the preliminary scripts and concept art, it could've been a lot worse :D

Trivial Psychic 07-06-2020 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 837806)
Toxin on the Monster Venom body.... Meh

Quote:

Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey (Post 837807)
Looks like we've got our first look at Toxin. Unfortunately not the Pat Mulligan version I wanted but still looks cool:

https://i.imgur.com/MvtoEBO.png


Dammit...what do we have to do get Patrick Mulligan Toxin? I knew this was coming eventually, but come on Hasbro. It's an easy repaint on a Spider-Man body that requires little to no additional sculpting.

On the plus side...this figure does look great on this body. I'm just bummed it's Brock Toxin is all.

Still no final retiring of my Toybiz one I guess.

Veronica Mars 07-06-2020 09:11 AM

I think I'm going to pass, Dan Yun's tweet said "July ain't over... The week ain't over"

Captain Nash 07-06-2020 09:12 AM

Such an easy pass for me. To each their own but outside of what we've got already, I'm fine with no more Carnage, Toxin, Venom figures. I realize that's just my opinion obviously. It does look cool for those that want it though.

usernamedustin 07-06-2020 09:14 AM

I really hope they announce the non-SDCC sets before Friday. Even though it makes no sense for casinos to be open, I am back to work now and I need this to happen on one of my days off so I don't miss the pre-orders.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 837812)
Such an easy pass for me. To each their own but outside of what we've got already, I'm fine with no more Carnage, Toxin, Venom figures. I realize that's just my opinion obviously. It does look cool for those that want it though.


I like Spider-Man, but the only Symbiotes I care about are Venom and Carnage. I'm not mad they are getting made though and a whole bunch of stuff I want either just came out or is coming soon. My toy budget could use a break.

Veronica Mars 07-06-2020 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usernamedustin (Post 837813)
I really hope they announce the non-SDCC sets before Friday. Even though it makes no sense for casinos to be open, I am back to work now and I need this to happen on one of my days off so I don't miss the pre-orders.

Really? Geez, we're pretty much back on lockdown

Ultra Seven 07-06-2020 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey (Post 837807)
Looks like we've got our first look at Toxin. Unfortunately not the Pat Mulligan version I wanted but still looks cool:

https://i.imgur.com/MvtoEBO.png

I... uh... was really hoping for the Hellfire Club set. Or the Nimrod set. Or those rumored “Spider-Man & His Amazing Friends” figures. Or U.S. Agent.

Bo Ttef 07-06-2020 09:33 AM

I like it- Never grabbed the first Toxin and he's a bit pricey now so this one is a welcome addition...

Boy Blunder 07-06-2020 09:44 AM

I kinda dig this. Don't know if I'll actually grab it, but I do like it more than either of the Monster Venoms we got. Really nice job on the color fade, too.

Archangel 07-06-2020 09:46 AM

Looks good to me, easy preorder here.

usernamedustin 07-06-2020 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 837815)
Really? Geez, we're pretty much back on lockdown

Yep. I'm in Washington and the Governor is getting paid off. Bars can't be open until Phase 4 here, but casinos can be open in Phase 2. The guidelines for Phase 2 here are that I can gather with up to 5 people per week outdoors and maintain social distancing, but at work, I can have up to 9 people all within 3 feet of me at the same time. Also they can all drink alcohol and are constantly touching their masks/faces to drink and then touching all the cards and chips. The worst part is that if there is an outbreak there, no customers will admit that they were at the casino so contact tracing is useless.

Veronica Mars 07-06-2020 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usernamedustin (Post 837821)
Yep. I'm in Washington and the Governor is getting paid off. Bars can't be open until Phase 4 here, but casinos can be open in Phase 2. The guidelines for Phase 2 here are that I can gather with up to 5 people per week outdoors and maintain social distancing, but at work, I can have up to 9 people all within 3 feet of me at the same time. Also they can all drink alcohol and are constantly touching their masks/faces to drink and then touching all the cards and chips. The worst part is that if there is an outbreak there, no customers will admit that they were at the casino so contact tracing is useless.

Here in Cali we have a governor who a presidential hopeful in 4 years so he rushed the reopen to keep his constituents happy and it's backfired big time

sh002 07-06-2020 10:32 AM

I’m going to pass on that Toxin.

WIP Wolfsbane.

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...a4ca4f343d.jpg


http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...fa314e5cee.jpg

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...fcf06984b3.jpg

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...d7cb4354d3.jpg

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...4bc9ac518d.jpg

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...944cc26016.jpg

http://www.toyark.com/attachments/59...d8ec86c572.jpg

Dodge76 07-06-2020 10:38 AM

I am passing on Toxin as well. I thought we were going to have the SDCC exclusive reveal today.

warmachine6 07-06-2020 10:41 AM

I'm passing on toxin, i wish the monster venom head looked like that though in his classic look that'd be an insta buy

Panther 07-06-2020 10:42 AM

The reveal is okay. I remember hearing Rektangular mention this figure in his last video. I'm really happy for those who want this figure. I've only purchased a small amount of Legends this year (Black Widow, Yelena Belova, Red Guardian, Taskmaster, Deluxe Black Widow, and Stan Lee). I'm a theatrical collector, and given everything going on with release dates being pushed back, it's not been a big year for me. I'm definitely not complaining, but I can't wait to see something new for Falcon & The Winter Soldier, WandaVision, & The Eternals. Also, can't wait to see when the X-Men theatrical figures are going to drop.

sh002 07-06-2020 10:48 AM

Can’t wait to order all of the movie X-Men and Deadpool figures. Once the Amazon movie Logan comes in I’m going to see if his head fits and looks good on the ROML X-Force Wolverine body.


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