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Dr Kain 10-02-2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey (Post 850902)
Jamie Foxx confirmed that he was indeed playing Electro in MCU Spider-Man but said he won't be blue.

So it seems like it's a different version of the character, just with the same actor.

That's great. Hopefully he's in his proper green and yellow suit with the yellow electric mask.

En Sabah Nerd 10-02-2020 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 850941)
That's great. Hopefully he's in his proper green and yellow suit with the yellow electric mask.

Gosh I hope not. Electro's mask has always been pretty damn goofy but it manages to just work because it's in a comic book. I think the PS4 game design for Electro would be a better place to look for his costume inspiration, it keeps a lot of the basic elements (the green, yellow, and lightning patterns) but doesn't have this laughably giant lightning star on his face.

Boy Blunder 10-03-2020 12:38 AM

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webz 10-03-2020 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 850866)
Can we just pretend the GIJoe movies never happened? A good friend of mine and I were both Transformers (more him) and joe (more me) fans as kids. The transformers movies were a major let down for him and the first GIJOE came closer to ruining my childhood than any other movie ever has. As dramatic as that sounds.

I’m a hardcore transformers fan, and had a fair amount of GI Joes as a kid, yet not once did I feel slighted by the film versions. My childhood memories haven’t been tarnished. The first GI Joe was crappy, but it had some fun moments. The 2nd film was a love letter to the sunbow cartoons. The GI Joe and Transformers films are full of Easter eggs and little nods to the 1980’s franchises.
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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey (Post 850902)
Jamie Foxx confirmed that he was indeed playing Electro in MCU Spider-Man but said he won't be blue.
So it seems like it's a different version of the character, just with the same actor.

Fingers crossed. Foxx is a good actor, but ASM2 gave him nothing. Hopefully the MCU doesn’t just make his storyline some woke crap.
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 850941)
That's great. Hopefully he's in his proper green and yellow suit with the yellow electric mask.

Ick.
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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 850944)
Gosh I hope not. Electro's mask has always been pretty damn goofy but it manages to just work because it's in a comic book. I think the PS4 game design for Electro would be a better place to look for his costume inspiration, it keeps a lot of the basic elements (the green, yellow, and lightning patterns) but doesn't have this laughably giant lightning star on his face.

Costume-wise, Marvel has done really well. Character-wise, marvel villains have mostly been boring. I think the only genuinely exciting MCU villain performance was Loki. The rest seemed bland and phoned in. Case in point, as I typed this, I was trying to think of the names of many of the MCU villains. Without concentrating, I was only able to come up with Loki, Thanos, and Ultron.

Fine by me, as I’m feeling MCU’d out. It’s not a popular opinion, so I won’t dwell on it, but Infinity War/Endgame weren’t anywhere near the top of the mcu films. Thor Ragnarok, Guardians 1, and SM Homecoming, were much, much better.

En Sabah Nerd 10-03-2020 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by webz (Post 850946)
Character-wise, marvel villains have mostly been boring. I think the only genuinely exciting MCU villain performance was Loki. The rest seemed bland and phoned in. Case in point, as I typed this, I was trying to think of the names of many of the MCU villains. Without concentrating, I was only able to come up with Loki, Thanos, and Ultron.

Yeah these movies generally favor a blander villain so the heroes can get the spotlight but there are some memorable takes in addition to the three you've mentioned, just off the top of my head I'd add Vulture and Mysterio. There's definitely a recurring issue though where talented performers aren't given enough material as the villain to stand out or alternatively if they do stand out then they're unfortunately short on screen-time. My go-to example is Andy Serkis as Klaue, he seems like he was having a blast playing that character which gives him a fun energy and he tends to steal the scenes he's in but then he's only in like three or four scenes across two movies. This problem obviously isn't exclusive to Marvel movies (MCU, Fox, or Sony) but I think that with their lengthy catalog of movies and tendency to kill villains off after one movie it's especially more detectable.

Harbinger 10-03-2020 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 850927)
Pft Way less Neagan, definitly more Wendy Torrence

Ha! More like jack torrance.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8202...itemid=3518802

webz 10-03-2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 850947)
Yeah these movies generally favor a blander villain so the heroes can get the spotlight but there are some memorable takes in addition to the three you've mentioned, just off the top of my head I'd add Vulture and Mysterio. There's definitely a recurring issue though where talented performers aren't given enough material as the villain to stand out or alternatively if they do stand out then they're unfortunately short on screen-time. My go-to example is Andy Serkis as Klaue, he seems like he was having a blast playing that character which gives him a fun energy and he tends to steal the scenes he's in but then he's only in like three or four scenes across two movies. This problem obviously isn't exclusive to Marvel movies (MCU, Fox, or Sony) but I think that with their lengthy catalog of movies and tendency to kill villains off after one movie it's especially more detectable.

Vulture was ok, but he wasn’t “Vulture” to me... as a parent of a then-teenage girl, I identified more with him as “Who are you to date my daughter guy” than Adrien Toomes (that being said, I LOVE Keaton has come out of retirement and back into film. He really puts 100% into it). Far From Home I just couldn’t get into. Even my wife, who has loved every Marvel movie (even Thor 2), was squirmy and ready to leave an hour into the film. Mysterio in the comics was creepy. Spidey KNEW it was always effects, but he was STILL creeped out by Fishbowl. Movie mysterio wasn’t creepy. He felt like recycled Dr Strange effects. I know it didn’t fit the story they were going for, but what’s next? Green Goblin is a disgruntled Walmart greeter?

Serkis was great as Klaw, and I was bummed they offed him so quickly, but it’s for the best. No way they’d be able to bring him back in today’s political climate, being they made the character a white supremacist.

Ultra Seven 10-03-2020 06:03 AM

Apparently, another Eternals figure leaked: https://i.redd.it/vii1yfw5asq51.jpg
Hoping it’s fake, as it looks like hot shit, but it does correlate with Rektangular’s mention of a deluxe villain figure. If real, I think that’s the worst character design for the MCU I’ve ever seen. That is a DCEU-level PS1-cut scene CGI mistranslation of an awesome Jack Kirby design.

Captain Nash 10-03-2020 06:11 AM

That's horrible looking. Maybe that's just a final form as he can shape shift in the comics, and that version won't be in the film much. Either way, easy easy pass for me. If it's not a custom.


Off side to other comments- talking about Marvel Villains, I have to agree that with most MCU villains they have been somewhat bland, not the strong point of the movies, but along with Loki I thought Cate Blanchett absolutely killed it as Hela. Iron Monger was also pretty memorable. Thanos was alright but not nearly as compelling as his comic counterpart.

Harbinger 10-03-2020 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 850958)
That's horrible looking. Maybe that's just a final form as he can shape shift in the comics, and that version won't be in the film much. Either way, easy easy pass for me. If it's not a custom.


Off side to other comments- talking about Marvel Villains, I have to agree that with most MCU villains they have been somewhat bland, not the strong point of the movies, but along with Loki I thought Cate Blanchett absolutely killed it as Hela. Iron Monger was also pretty memorable. Thanos was alright but not nearly as compelling as his comic counterpart.

Blanchett was so energetic as hela. She really seemed to havefun in the role and it really showed in her performance. Also she looked really good in the long black hair and somkey eyes.

joewolf 10-03-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven
Apparently, another Eternals figure leaked:
Hoping it’s fake, as it looks like hot s**t, but it does correlate with Rektangular’s mention of a deluxe villain figure. If real, I think that’s the worst character design for the MCU I’ve ever seen. That is a DCEU-level PS1-cut scene CGI mistranslation of an awesome Jack Kirby design.

That was my thought as well. It looks like it belongs in a recent DC movie with their shiny, uninspired CGI blandness for villains.

joewolf 10-03-2020 07:37 AM

Punisher van alert: Greenlight is releasing a 1:12-scale A-Team van. The detail is scale model quality. It only has 2 problems: It's $500 and it does not have any opening doors. So, it's a $500 paperweight.. but still, it looks amazing.

(The forum software is not letting me post links yet but a google search will turn it up posthaste.)

Panther 10-03-2020 08:20 AM

I dig being in the minority, been there my entire life. With that being said, Marvel Studios still have a lot of stories to tell and characters to introduce. They're just getting started. Most importantly, more characters to get in Marvel Legends form.

What's ironic is the people who have gotten "burnt out" or want it to end that are comic book fans. The inspiration for Marvel Studios is pulled directly from the comic books and what they've done for over 80 years. By that logic, do we want comic book stories to stop being produced? If comics would've stop being produced in say 1970, would we have gotten Days of Future Past, The Dark Phoenix Saga, Age of Apocalypse, Civil War, God Loves, Men Kill, Secret Invasion, House of X, Powers of X, Avengers vs. X-Men, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, Secret Wars, Annihilation, World War Hulk, Avengers Disassembled, Original Sin, Fear Itself, Siege, or House of M?

Not trying to cause of fuss, just using a bit of logic. Like I said, I dig being in the minority. I'm excited for what they have planned.

Black Arbor 10-03-2020 08:32 AM

https://i.ibb.co/ygdZGgW/r05gvvnm7ww21.jpg


They should take a lesson from Ultimate Alliance and give Electro this snappy number! And I want bright yellow on his costume too! No more muted colors!

Dr Kain 10-03-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 850944)
Gosh I hope not. Electro's mask has always been pretty damn goofy but it manages

Oh, a teenager with spider powers swinging across NY wearing red and blue pajamas is okay, but a man wearing an electric looking mask is goofy?

:D

They're comic book characters, they're not supposed to be realistic because that's the point.

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Originally Posted by webz (Post 850946)
Costume-wise, Marvel has done really well.

I can't agree because half of the villains were plain clothed villains. Zemo was just some boring dude with the name Zemo. Quicksilver wore regular clothes. Strucker wore regular clothes. The only one that works is Klaw because that is how he first appeared in the comics.

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Character-wise, marvel villains have mostly been boring. I think the only genuinely exciting MCU villain performance was Loki. The rest seemed bland and phoned in
Hela, Grandmaster, Thanos, Vulture, Mysterio, and Killmonger all disagree. All of them have been fleshed out, well developed, and had complexities as to why they were doing what they were doing.

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 850968)
https://i.ibb.co/ygdZGgW/r05gvvnm7ww21.jpg


They should take a lesson from Ultimate Alliance and give Electro this snappy number! And I want bright yellow on his costume too! No more muted colors!

I'd be okay with that.

In fact, I should say that while I want my villains to look like my favorite costumes from the comics, I'm okay with them doing alterations as long as I still feel they are the characters. WHen you have someone like Zemo, despite being well developed, he just comes off as Joe Nobody to me because there isn't a damn thing about his look that resembles Zemo. In fact, when I first saw Civil War, I didn't even know that was supposed to be Zemo. That's the only reason Civil War is like #6 on my top MCU films list.

TheBlueMarvel 10-03-2020 08:43 AM

@Panther

Agreed. While I enjoyed many elements of phase one, I anticipate greater all around satisfaction with phase two. The pivot to cosmic Marvel with the Eternals and Fantastic Four, along with Shang Chi, Dr. Strange, Blade (?), and the X-men are all substantial draws for me. As much as I love them, I was getting burnt out on the Avengers and their theatrical counterparts. Outside of my sadness over not getting to see more of Boseman, Evans and Cumberbatch (I prefer his snark to that of RDJ) were the only renditions I wanted to see reprised moving into the future. Include Spidey and Holland on that list...

Panther 10-03-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 850970)
@Panther

Agreed. While I enjoyed many elements of phase one, I anticipate greater all around satisfaction with phase two. The pivot to cosmic Marvel with the Eternals and Fantastic Four, along with Shang Chi, Dr. Strange, Blade (?), and the X-men are all substantial draws for me. As much as I love them, I was getting burnt out on the Avengers and their theatrical counterparts. Outside of my sadness over not getting to see more of Boseman, Evans and Cumberbatch (I prefer his snark to that of RDJ) were the only renditions I wanted to see reprised moving into the future. Include Spidey and Holland on that list...

Yes! It's the thought of all new new characters and stories that keep me interested. I'm loving what's materializing at the Studio. Add the Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Characters to that as well. It seems like Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures have a better working relationship than was originally thought. To keep this on track...the better relationship they have, the more Marvel Legends we'll get. Venom, Morbius, Kraven, and whatever Oliva Wilde is working on (Hope it's Spider-Woman, but time will tell).

TheBlueMarvel 10-03-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Panther (Post 850973)
Yes! It's the thought of all new new characters and stories that keep me interested. I'm loving what's materializing at the Studio. Add the Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Characters to that as well. It seems like Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures have a better working relationship than was originally thought. To keep this on track...the better relationship they have, the more Marvel Legends we'll get. Venom, Morbius, Kraven, and whatever Oliva Wilde is working on (Hope it's Spider-Woman, but time will tell).

I'm excited as well! There isn't just greater diversity in representation, but in genres. Marvel's pugilistic martial master is introduced to the masses, high level mysticism in the form of the sorcerer supreme continues, mature (hopefully Blade retains its former 'R' rating) and stylized occult-vampiric action returns, a formal introduction is provide to a pantheon of earthbound cosmic deities, super-science and foundational stories abound with Marvel's 'first family' (Surfer could culminate into a visual magnum opus for the MCU), and, of course, I'm interested to see what happens when Marvel Studios presents the X-men. Some of the muted anticipation on phase two is undoubtedly a byproduct of the conditions of the pandemic which are currently stymieing the entire film industry. The hope is that there will be both breakthroughs and better leadership/guidance regarding the pandemic soon. But as you said, time will tell...

hasbroherofan 10-03-2020 10:46 AM

https://i.imgur.com/HuYbBO8.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelLegen...im_capable_of/

Boy Blunder 10-03-2020 10:48 AM

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Anyone have the ironman starboost armor? Im trying to track sown 2.

Two at a local Target. He doesn't look all that worth owning tbh.

Harbinger 10-03-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 850984)
Two at a local Target. He doesn't look all that worth owning tbh.

Yah i know....but i still kinda want him. Its like transformers generation two.....they had some seriously garish coloring but i atill kinda liked em.

Harbinger 10-03-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 850974)
I'm excited as well! There isn't just greater diversity in representation, but in genres. Marvel's pugilistic martial master is introduced to the masses, high level mysticism in the form of the sorcerer supreme continues, mature (hopefully Blade retains its former 'R' rating) and stylized occult-vampiric action returns, a formal introduction is provide to a pantheon of earthbound cosmic deities, super-science and foundational stories abound with Marvel's 'first family' (Surfer could culminate into a visual magnum opus for the MCU), and, of course, I'm interested to see what happens when Marvel Studios presents the X-men. Some of the muted anticipation on phase two is undoubtedly a byproduct of the conditions of the pandemic which are currently stymieing the entire film industry. The hope is that there will be both breakthroughs and better leadership/guidance regarding the pandemic soon. But as you said, time will tell...

I just wish marvel would stop race and gender changing major characters and use the opportunity to make new ones. Im still waiting for t’challa’s illegitimate white son or the scarlet warlock. I get companies are lazy, unimaginative entities that are just looking for the cheapest and laziest way to make a quick buck off these properties but it doesn’t do much for longevity.

To TRULY expand and incorporate inclusion, new characters MUST be created.....not butchering and bastardizing pre-established characters. That sorta crap is just cheap and lazy.

Harbinger 10-03-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 850957)
Apparently, another Eternals figure leaked: https://i.redd.it/vii1yfw5asq51.jpg
Hoping it’s fake, as it looks like hot shit, but it does correlate with Rektangular’s mention of a deluxe villain figure. If real, I think that’s the worst character design for the MCU I’ve ever seen. That is a DCEU-level PS1-cut scene CGI mistranslation of an awesome Jack Kirby design.

This thing looks like it should be called crap....cause it jot looks like it but his stance looks like he's about to drop a deuce.

sh002 10-03-2020 11:47 AM

My 2 Storm and Thunderbird sets from Target arrived today.

Black Arbor 10-03-2020 12:47 PM

I've never really connected with the cosmic side of Marvel, Galactus excluded but mainly 'cause of that bitchin' armor haha. It's never appealed to me, I need the human element to connect with the stories, and with the Inhumans being a bunch of posturing self-aggrandizing dicks that Disney pushed WAAAAAYYY too hard to be the next X-Men, and the Eternals shaping up to be Game of Thrones(.... IN... SPAAAACEEEEE!), I just can't muster the energy to get hyped for the movies.


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