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Super Joe 01-17-2021 09:23 AM

Speaking of the FF, the new MCU flick announced by Feige; can really help plus up the height of HasLab's Galactus. Must have modular parts (like M.O.D.O.K.'s modular face) to also sell a "Galactus Engine" or an "Infinity Abyss Thanos,"

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Harbinger 01-17-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Joe (Post 859515)
Ryan Ting tweeted a month ago about the new FF movie so I wonder if they're already working on the concept / movie line.

Lets hope they dont utterly cock it up by making changes like trank the tank did.

Veronica Mars 01-17-2021 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 859523)
Lets hope they dont utterly cock it up by making changes like trank the tank did.

And which changes did you find so very offensive

Harbinger 01-17-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 859532)
And which changes did you find so very offensive

The whole movie. :p

Ultra Seven 01-17-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 859532)
And which changes did you find so very offensive

His Doctor Doom was lame as hell, and the revised origin didn’t jive with me. Funny enough, pretty much the only thing I liked was Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm. He nailed that, shame the script sucked.

Ultra Seven 01-17-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 859533)
The whole movie. :p

Yeah, pretty much. :D

Dr Kain 01-17-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 859534)
His Doctor Doom was lame as hell, and the revised origin didn’t jive with me. Funny enough, pretty much the only thing I liked was Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm. He nailed that, shame the script sucked.

I hated how they made Sue be Johnny's adopted sister. Why couldn't she just have been his normal sister like in the comics? Were they afraid of having a white dude eventually marry a black woman?

Harbinger 01-17-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 859536)
I hated how they made Sue be Johnny's adopted sister. Why couldn't she just have been his normal sister like in the comics? Were they afraid of having a white dude eventually marry a black woman?

Or just leave johnny and the rest alone. John is my fave ff member ( next to shulk ) and personally didnt like the race change, no matter what their reasoning, but yah the whole movie and script actors plot acting visuals costumes everything was just bad. The vic doom in that train wreck made julian mcmahons doom oscar worthy by comparison.

I mean the guy was literally a basement dwelling blogger........

Archangel 01-17-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 859532)
And which changes did you find so very offensive

I know this is hard for you to understand, but having a different opinion from someone doesn’t mean they are offended. Harb honestly seems like a hard guy to offend.

Benn Roe 01-17-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 859543)
Harb honestly seems like a hard guy to offend.

Unless a white character is being portrayed by a person of colour...

Harbinger 01-17-2021 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Benn Roe (Post 859549)
Unless a white character is being portrayed by a person of colour...

Id be just as pissed if jim rhodes or luke cage was played by a non black actor so.......
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Veronica Mars 01-17-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 859543)
I know this is hard for you to understand, but having a different opinion from someone doesn’t mean they are offended. Harb honestly seems like a hard guy to offend.

I don't recall hitting your buzzer forum police. I never said I liked the movie. In fact the incongruous reshoots made it difficult for me to sit through the whole movie.

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Originally Posted by Benn Roe (Post 859549)
Unless a white character is being portrayed by a person of colour...

Exactly

Hulkwummy 01-17-2021 06:15 PM

Is the Black Widow 2-Pack gonna be comic based or movie based?

JCarterVA 01-17-2021 06:50 PM

I liked Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, Laurence Fishbourne as Silver Surfer and even Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. I refused to watch the disaster that the last FF movie was. The Roger Corman FF was worse than then Dolph Lundgren Punisher. That last FF movie should have been stopped at the 1st meeting to spare the public and the actors. Kevin will work his magic and give us FF and X-Men that are what they should be. Not some Hollywood PC bullshit.

Veronica Mars 01-17-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hulkwummy (Post 859558)
Is the Black Widow 2-Pack gonna be comic based or movie based?

I bet it's going to be movie based, I've seen a lot for people wanting the movie Red Guardian with a masked head, I don't know how big of a part Rachel Weis character plays, if they'd do a figure of her, otherwise it might be a non white suit version of Yelena

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Originally Posted by JCarterVA (Post 859560)
I liked Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, Laurence Fishbourne as Silver Surfer and even Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. I refused to watch the disaster that the last FF movie was. The Roger Corman FF was worse than then Dolph Lundgren Punisher. That last FF movie should have been stopped at the 1st meeting to spare the public and the actors. Kevin will work his magic and give us FF and X-Men that are what they should be. Not some Hollywood PC bullshit.

I haven't thought of the Dolph Lindgren Punisher in forever. Has anyone bothered seeing that movie Peppermint where Jennifer Garner is basically Frank Castle? You're probably right about Marvel Studios fixing the F4, but I think it's also going to come down having a cast that has the chemistry and rapport they need to feel like a family

Dr Kain 01-17-2021 08:03 PM

While I liked Evans as Torch in the previous two movies, the only actor I felt they cast perfectly was Thing. Chiklas was spot on. Everyone else was meh. Not an Alba fan at all, so I hated her as Sue.

I did like Fishburne for Surfer though.

StuartGreen2019 01-17-2021 11:45 PM

@Ultra Seven - I am looking forward to the Retro Fantastic Four figures. I sincerely hope we get figures for the main wave and/or as Fan Channel Exclusives for Mr. Fantastic, Thing, a fully-visible Invisible Woman, an invisible version of Invisible Woman, Johnny Storm and a fully flamed-on Human Torch. For Mr. Fantastic, maybe they can give him his brown vest from the '90s that's removable. Villains like Mole Man, Blastaar, Psycho-Man, Annihilus and Wizard would be cool. I'm still hoping for a Puppet Master/Alicia Masters two-pack down the line. Also, I agree with Dr Kain that Michael Chiklis was perfectly cast as the Thing. I actually love the 2005 Fantastic Four movie and it's my favorite FF film to date. Its sequel and the Fant4stic reboot, though, are movies I cannot stand.

And personally, I prefer the Roger Corman Fantastic Four over the Dolph Lundgren Punisher, if only for Doctor Doom's best live-action comic costume translation to date and the gloriously-stupid metal fingernails that Doom gets in his final battle with Mr. Fantastic. Also, the musical score is surprisingly okay and I still genuinely feel bad for the composers spending 5 or 10 thousand of their own money to create the score and didn't get paid for their work.

As for the classic assortment, I'm wondering what it could be. Retro Iron Man? Bring On The Bad Guys? More Retro figures for the X-Men and/or Spider-Man? Another Marvel Super Heroes Toy Biz wave?

Also, as of today/January 18th, I turn 38. That means I qualify for the senior's discounts at all my favorite restaurants now, right? ;)

Veronica Mars 01-17-2021 11:55 PM

Happy Birthday

Starlord67 01-18-2021 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartGreen2019 (Post 859572)
@Ultra Seven - I am looking forward to the Retro Fantastic Four figures. I sincerely hope we get figures for the main wave and/or as Fan Channel Exclusives for Mr. Fantastic, Thing, a fully-visible Invisible Woman, an invisible version of Invisible Woman, Johnny Storm and a fully flamed-on Human Torch. For Mr. Fantastic, maybe they can give him his brown vest from the '90s that's removable. Villains like Mole Man, Blastaar, Psycho-Man, Annihilus and Wizard would be cool. I'm still hoping for a Puppet Master/Alicia Masters two-pack down the line. Also, I agree with Dr Kain that Michael Chiklis was perfectly cast as the Thing. I actually love the 2005 Fantastic Four movie and it's my favorite FF film to date. Its sequel and the Fant4stic reboot, though, are movies I cannot stand.

And personally, I prefer the Roger Corman Fantastic Four over the Dolph Lundgren Punisher, if only for Doctor Doom's best live-action comic costume translation to date and the gloriously-stupid metal fingernails that Doom gets in his final battle with Mr. Fantastic. Also, the musical score is surprisingly okay and I still genuinely feel bad for the composers spending 5 or 10 thousand of their own money to create the score and didn't get paid for their work.

As for the classic assortment, I'm wondering what it could be. Retro Iron Man? Bring On The Bad Guys? More Retro figures for the X-Men and/or Spider-Man? Another Marvel Super Heroes Toy Biz wave?

Also, as of today/January 18th, I turn 38. That means I qualify for the senior's discounts at all my favorite restaurants now, right? ;)

Happy Birthday!! It's also my anniversary!! 24 years!! It's a Good day.

Ultra Seven 01-18-2021 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartGreen2019 (Post 859572)
Also, as of today/January 18th, I turn 38. That means I qualify for the senior's discounts at all my favorite restaurants now, right? ;)

Happy birthday, man! Totally agree about all of the Fantastic Four-based points you raised, regarding both the figures & the movies. I want the Negative Zone suits, but I don’t love the prospect of them taking up most of the wave’s slots. I’ve been rereading Kirby & Lee’s FF run lately, and it makes me want more villains & Inhumans. Very curious about what the classic wave could be. The BOTBG wave is a good guess, but it could be something unannounced.

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Originally Posted by Starlord67 (Post 859578)
Happy Birthday!! It's also my anniversary!! 24 years!! It's a Good day.

Happy anniversary! Congratulations!

Q Prime 01-18-2021 08:58 AM

It would be cool to get a 2-pack of Bruce Banner and Hulk, be it MCU or comic-based as the most recent one I can remember is the the 80 years one, which comes with first appearance Wolverine I don't want.

Mimicboy 01-18-2021 12:22 PM

@Stuartgreen2019 Happy Birthday to you! I too am very curious what the classic assortment is going to be. I feel it is still unclear if it is an existing wave we know about or if it is its own thing. With Iron man getting his own wave this year I imagine we wont be seeing a retro Iron man wave just yet. Though most of the figures rumored for his wave could be considered classic looks so I guess it could possibly be the classic wave if that wave is one we already know. It could also possibly be a re-issue style wave I suppose. Fans are often saying they missed out on certain figures so it could make some since to put out "classic" Legends that did well or are in high demand. I am still hoping it is its own new mixed wave though that has some of the most popular characters in older looks that Hasbro hasnt done yet like classic Dr. Strange.

JCarterVA 01-18-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 859564)
I bet it's going to be movie based, I've seen a lot for people wanting the movie Red Guardian with a masked head, I don't know how big of a part Rachel Weis character plays, if they'd do a figure of her, otherwise it might be a non white suit version of Yelena


I haven't thought of the Dolph Lindgren Punisher in forever. Has anyone bothered seeing that movie Peppermint where Jennifer Garner is basically Frank Castle? You're probably right about Marvel Studios fixing the F4, but I think it's also going to come down having a cast that has the chemistry and rapport they need to feel like a family

@Veronica - I think you hit the nail on the head with Chemistry and family.
Happy Birthday and Anniversary guys!

StuartGreen2019 01-18-2021 03:15 PM

I sincerely appreciate all of the Happy Birthday replies so far. Thank you, everyone. And @Starlord67, I hope you're having a Happy Anniversary!

@Mimicboy - I am among those who missed out on certain Fantastic Four figures. And by "certain", I mean everyone but the Invisible Woman. I never could find the Thing and the Human Torch in my local Walgreens and I was never able to buy Mr. Fantastic due to money issues keeping me perpetually broke. I still refuse to buy the black-and-blue figures because I loathe those costumes. I don't know what they'll do for Sue and Johnny in the line, though. If I remember correctly, the Toy Biz Fantastic Four wave had an Invisible Woman and Human Torch, then made a visible Invisible Woman and Johnny Storm in later waves. So do you make one or the other? And if so, which one for Sue and Johnny? Sue seems trickier to me. If you get an invisible Invisible Woman, fans will complain she's not in her suit like the other figures or didn't want an all-invisible version of her. On the other hand, if you make her visible, fans will complain it's yet another visible Invisible Woman figure and Hasbro is again skipping out on making an invisible version. I'd love to see both, having one be in the main wave and the other as a Fan Channel figure. I also am hopeful we'll see a new Human Torch that's not translucent. Time will tell.

I'm also hoping we get more classic figures this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for classic/Retro versions of Mole Man, Wizard, Dr. Strange, Ringmaster, red costume Daredevil, Wasp, Toad, Shocker, Luke Cage, Ms. Marvel, Avalanche, Blob, classic White Queen (that's sold separately, please), purple-and-blue suit Boomerang, Scarlet Witch, U.S. Agent, Tigra, Wonder Man (black-and-red suit or safari jacket), Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel II, classic orange costume Sabretooth, Mystique (that's not a Walgreens exclusive), more of the original X-Factor members, some kind of new non-Jim Lee costume Rogue (first appearance, Outback, Uncanny Avengers, etc.), and my often-repeated wants for a John Byrne/scaly chainmail costume Captain America with a new smiling head sculpt and his round and triangular shields, Doctor Octopus with bendable wire tentacles (John Romita Sr. or white Armani suit, please, Hasbro), classic Sandman (Sandman on the Toy Biz Spider-Man animated series Retro box art -- it's too perfect), first appearance clothes Mary Jane Watson, Jim Lee Cyclops with an optic blast and Jim Lee Jubilee with multi-colored fireworks blasts. If not for 2021, maybe for 2022 then?

Also, we have a lot of anniversaries next year. Fan-favorite heroes like The Incredible Hulk, The Mighty Thor and The Amazing Spider-Man have their 60th anniversaries next year. "X-Men: The Animated Series" has its 30th anniversary next year. The original Sam Raimi 'Spider-Man' film has its 20th anniversary next year. There are so many possibilities left for Hasbro to explore.
I hope you all had a great weekend and I hope you all have a wonderful day. Stay safe, everyone.

redfox 01-18-2021 04:06 PM

Lucked out and found a lone Spider-verse Gwen today at Walmart. Thankfully, she's the only one I was really interested in.

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