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usernamedustin 05-29-2021 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor Laserpunch (Post 870737)
It’s really hard to sculpt a single line with a divot indicating cleavage and it’s not cost effective because there’s just no orher female characters I am aware of that wear a plain top and have boobs.
I wasn't really complaining about the top. I know why they used it and it works. My complaint is the top of the shirt being sculpted doesn't look good with the lower shirt being painted.

JCarterVA 05-29-2021 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 870697)
Steranko is definitely an unsung great deserving more notoriety and I also definitely enjoy his art. The only caveat I'll toss in there is that capturing and interpreting the nuance of artistic styles can be very hit or miss, with recognition and successful interpretation being really slippery slopes. In Hasbro's run, I've only really seen it accomplished twice where it was an obvious nod to a particular artist. Somebody at Hasbro, or one of their contracted sculptors, either knows or is a fan of Humberto Ramos because we've received both Goblin and Hobgoblin send-ups of his work. Now, it took a while for people to settle on a consensus that acknowledges these figs are indeed styled after Humberto's work and the jury's still out as to whether this is even a good thing - no offense to Humberto, I've liked his art too.

The first hurdle is nailing the translation. An easier task with figs and looks like Toy Biz' Bryne/Thing. A harder assignment with Toy Biz' McFarlane/Spidey that many believe might actually be a J.S. Campbell/Spidey. Artists that have specific style quirks like Humberto's feet/hands/faces, or Byrne's iconic Ben Grim brow and flat shale-stone appearance offer easier translations. However, specifically as it regards Steranko, his work is distinguished (IMO) by long limbs, long faces, crazy 70's era advanced-spy-tech (which, as cool as it looked then, most would consider pretty dated now), and trippy 70's era psychedelic backdrops. Only two of those things can be worked into a sculpt. Then there is the matter of recognition. To me Steranko and Gulacy illustrated faces in similar ways - long countenances with large eyes. Is the average collector going to differentiate, or even notice these subtleties? I dunno.

I haven't even gone into the aspect of how aiming for a particular artistic look pulls a figure out of continuity with the other figs of the line. The Humberto goblins were effective, but the figures now stand apart and don't mesh with the other Legends IMO.

Not poo-pooing your wishes, I like Steranko, just walking through how successful a process this has been within the Legends line.

EDIT: All this Shield talk...

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BlueMarvel phenomenal dio action shots!
I hear ya but I still want Steranko SHIELD Agents! Hasbro has done well with Jim Lee X-Men. They need a talented sculptor not a CAD/CAM. They need someone who can sculpt a face that is not blank slate.

TheBlueMarvel 05-29-2021 04:30 PM
@JCarterVA

Thanks JC...

S'all good in the tha' hood bruh! If they can pull off making it look discernably like Steranko's art, more power to them. Steranko's a beast!

Thor Laserpunch 05-30-2021 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by usernamedustin (Post 870739)
I wasn't really complaining about the top. I know why they used it and it works. My complaint is the top of the shirt being sculpted doesn't look good with the lower shirt being painted.
That also makes my retinal pressure increase 10000% when I look at it, but I love picking at flaws, it’s my favorite thing.

I feel the knives are pretty great though :cool:

Thor Laserpunch 05-30-2021 07:31 AM
I like the blue in the hair. Maybe applied it a tad liberally but it does have a cool off the page vibe.

hasbroherofan 05-30-2021 09:03 AM

hasbroherofan 05-30-2021 09:10 AM

redfox 05-30-2021 09:22 AM

Archangel 05-30-2021 09:24 AM
Why was this released on a YouTube channel? Kind of cool I guess.

Archangel 05-30-2021 09:29 AM

hasbroherofan 05-30-2021 09:32 AM
Full body shot with the Sir Jason head.

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tierneygreen 05-30-2021 10:10 AM
I stopped the video after dude pronounced it "win-grade" the second time. Does he ever say when/how this will be released?

hasbroherofan 05-30-2021 10:23 AM
So first Callisto, now Mastermind. Last year Ryan had talked about wanting to do a Retro wave based on the purple "Evil Mutants" packaging ToyBiz did in the 90s...

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Captain Nash 05-30-2021 10:36 AM
I think it's possible this may be a retro line, if there's one more reveal tomorrow that's related, it could be Wolverine, Callisto, Domino, Cannonball, Wyngarde and whoever gets revealed tomorrow. Maybe that instead the classic BAF wave I posted thoughts on yesterday.

An all villain retro wave would be nice too. Callisto, Wyngarde, I wonder if Avalanche and Destiny could be done, that could give us only Blob needed for BOEM II main lineup, or perhaps Ahab, Exodus, Stryfe might also be options. Heck they could given rerelease Mystique given how that was a general rarity to find in Walgreens stores and sold out quickly online. Other version of Magneto or Sabretooth are also options, but I don't see if with us getting alternate version of them in the next AOA wave.

Veronica Mars 05-30-2021 11:24 AM
So with both of the reveals so far being repaints with new heads, future Marvel Monday releases?

I made some changes to the HFC Black Queen, I really didn't like the Selene head, I just kept seeing Shiklah, so I added Silver Sable's hair to the Jean BQ head, I was going to change the eyeshadow, but I think the red with the black adds to the whole vamp aesthetic

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I also painted a TK shield for Jean

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EvilMonkeyPope 05-30-2021 02:34 PM
MCU Zemo is a lefty but he can only hold his golden gun with his right hand. Is there a similarly gloved left trigger hand that came with anyone else?

Mimicboy 05-30-2021 02:49 PM
@VeronicaMars, I totally did the same tk shield for my Marvel Girl! It really seemed like such a straight forward re-use (which I imagined they would want to do to maximize tooling costs) that I was genuinely surprised and disappointed when the next Jean Grey figure (in this case HoX) did not include it. I feel the Marvel Girl figure is a little lackluster, despite it being my favorite, without accessories. The shield really ups her game! It looks great with Jim Lee Jean too!

I am wondering why Hasbro is giving us all these X-men reveals that seem to be significantly further along then the computer generated samples they just put up for the AoA wave 2 pre-order. Also wonder what the reasoning is for not telling us how or where these figures fit in. If they are Marvel Monday's then why did they reveal before? Is it that classic x wave that was rumored before and AoA was a different wave?

I don't know but a new villain based X-men retro wave would be stellar! Exodus, Destiny, Avalanche, Toad, Spiral...there are so many good villains to choose from!

Starlord67 05-30-2021 02:57 PM
Noe we need a Mastermind body to go with that AWESOME headsculpt! I'm so excited to get this figure! Now for Leland from the Leapfrog buck.

Dr Kain 05-30-2021 03:02 PM
Wyngard is cool, but I also guess there is a Callisto figure coming out?

TheBlueMarvel 05-30-2021 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 870768)
Why was this released on a YouTube channel? Kind of cool I guess.
Maybe it was to drive a 'community engagement' narrative as an effort to diffuse some of the buyer-fatigue that has set in over these frequent announcements? Might've gone a little better if the dude they called upon didn't flub the name of the character he received before everyone else after extolling of his long-term love of the X-Men as a fellow 'outsider' (yeah, so outside that you just might not know what you are talking about...). It was both comedic and in keeping with some of the other faux paws we've seen of late: Dorkside still has the Guardsmen listed as the "Volt Guard". I find it hilarious that no one involved cared enough to get that changed...

Hire me Hasbro, I'd make certain to be all over stuff like that.

hasbroherofan 05-30-2021 03:33 PM
It isn't all that different than stuff they were already doing pre-pandemic with giving interviews to action figure collectors on Youtube. I remember Ryan giving a shout out to Boog at one of the last Comic-Cons before the pandemic hit.

TheBlueMarvel 05-30-2021 03:41 PM

EvilMonkeyPope 05-30-2021 03:55 PM

TheBlueMarvel 05-30-2021 03:58 PM

EvilMonkeyPope 05-30-2021 04:14 PM
What're those dragons from?


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