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Nimrod 07-22-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 875940)
No worries, but I'll be honest and admit I'm not really understanding your lamentations about the exorbitant cost of Hasbro's Sentinel and Galactus when you are making custom purchases that exceed what they are asking for either project. I feel you on Hasbro delivering Haslab concepts that are more affordable to the 'majority of us.' However, it seems like both the Sentinel and Galactus are in fact affordable for you and it's more of a situation where you don't think they are worth the expense, which is a different story entirely. Even the Combatants: Khnuba figure you photographed is a $60 fig, which is generally far more than most would pay for a 1/12 scale single toy. I'm not bashing you, by the way. I pay $50, $100, and, far more often than I care to admit, $300-$400 dollars for rare figs I really want and I often call for Hasbro to deliver more for my $25 purchases. My point is that your complaints suggest that you are being priced out, but the reality appears to be different than that. The extended point is that Haslab projects are earmarked for the delivery of ambitious costly items that otherwise would not be available or possible.


Me buying six 16' tall fully articulated 3D printed classic Sentinels with alternate hands for an avg of $80-$85 each is way more affordable for me as I get more bang for my $$ as I get 6 Sentinels for a little more than what I would have to pay for 1 Haslab Sentinel. 2 Haslab Sentinels would have cost me $700! I got 6 Sentinels for $574 total & again, about $95 of that was the S&H. The Gladiator combatant figs are extremely well done 1:12 figs with very highly detailed accessories, armor & weapons & their bucks make for perfect customizing of Marvel characters with that size frame. I've already got a pretty good custom Hercules going utilizing 1 of the 3 bucks & will post it as soon as I'm done doing some painting on his attire. As for the 3D printed Sentinels, I used the $150 I got from selling my only 2005 TB Sentinel towards the purchase of the 6 Sentinels as well. So outta pocket, I actually paid $424 for the 6 Sentinels, so bout $70 a fig.

TheBlueMarvel 07-22-2021 10:55 AM

What a wasted opportunity with Surfer as an inclusion. I'll welcome a highly reflective paint app, but would've preferred another herald. However, the silver lining might be the inclusion of two heralds with each subsequent tier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 876014)
Me buying six 16' tall fully articulated 3D printed classic Sentinels with alternate hands for an avg of $80-$85 each is way more affordable for me as I get more bang for my $$ as I get 6 Sentinels for a little more than what I would have to pay for 1 Haslab Sentinel. 2 Haslab Sentinels would have cost me $700! I got 6 Sentinels for $574 total & again, about $95 of that was the S&H. The Gladiator combatant figs are extremely well done 1:12 figs with very highly detailed accessories, armor & weapons & their bucks make for perfect customizing of Marvel characters with that size frame. I've already got a pretty good custom Hercules going utilizing 1 of the 3 bucks & will post it as soon as I'm done doing some painting on his attire. As for the 3D printed Sentinels, I used the $150 I got from selling my only 2005 TB Sentinel towards the purchase of the 6 Sentinels as well. So outta pocket, I actually paid $424 for the 6 Sentinels, so bout $70 a fig.

Sure, but the implication of what you posted before was about affordability/price, not the value you place on what Haslab is producing - some collectors don't believe Legends to even be worth $25. You spent more on the customs in total than you would have for one project item, then portrayed Hasbro as pricing individuals out of their wares for a 'special project' line known to be expensive. You, apparently, have no problem spending $400 to even $600 dollars. In that circumstance, why frame it as being too pricey, when your druthers seem more closely related to not liking what you are getting for the money? Also, if you're spending nearly $600 for customs (regardless of whatever value you attribute to them, or the numbers you buy) and paying $50 dollars a pop on other figs, then you've already crossed the rubicon of what's 'affordable to most collectors.'

Do you know what materials the Sentinel customizer used to make them? I've read that many of the 3D printed plastics aren't as molecularly stable as the materials used by many manufacturers and are susceptible to hastened degradation. There's an attributable cost for resins that feature greater longevity. I know I've purchased a few thrones and other sundries and I can look at them and know age and attrition is likely to take a hefty toll. Were I you, based on your investment, I might ask homeboy (or homegirl) what they used and find out the shelf life.

Nimrod 07-22-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 876019)
What a wasted opportunity with Surfer as an inclusion. I'll welcome a highly reflective paint app, but would've preferred another herald. However, the silver lining might be the inclusion of two heralds with each subsequent tier.



Sure, but the implication of what you posted before was about affordability/price, not the value you place on what Haslab is producing - some collectors don't believe Legends to even be worth $25. You spent more on the customs in total than you would have for one project item, then portrayed Hasbro as pricing individuals out of their wares for a 'special project' line known to be expensive. You, apparently, have no problem spending $400 to even $600 dollars. In that circumstance, why frame it as being too pricey, when your druthers seem more closely related to not liking what you are getting for the money? Also, if you're spending nearly $600 for customs (regardless of whatever value you attribute to them, or the numbers you buy) and paying $50 dollars a pop on other figs, then you've already crossed the rubicon of what's 'affordable to most collectors.'

Do you know what materials the Sentinel customizer used to make them? I've read that many of the 3D printed plastics aren't as molecularly stable as the materials used by many manufacturers and are susceptible to hastened degradation. There's an attributable cost for resins that feature greater longevity. I know I've purchased a few thrones and other sundries and I can look at them and know age and attrition is likely to take a hefty toll. Were I you, based on your investment, I might ask homeboy (or homegirl) what they used and find out the shelf life.


Hi, You are correct about the "affordability" aspect of my comments. I can afford a $350 Sentinel or Big G for $400 but as with all aspects of my financial purchases, I try to get the best return for my buck & those 2 figures to me, are just not worth those $$. You know what would have probably spurred me to get 2 maybe 3 Sentinels? Instead of a useless MM head & each finger being articulated, I woulda referred a couple of power blast FX to go with that capture coil, a removable BD chest piece, battle damaged leg panels, a half missing arm with coils & wires hangin out of it. The 6' characters could easily have been done in a future X-Wave. Sentinels are giant Terminators on steroids, they can withstand a ton of damage & still accomplish their mission, the figure should have had those accessories to demonstrate what a powerful & dangerous foe he truly is to not only the X-me, but any metahumans & enhanced humans it hunts. Instead they give him a few beauty marks alternate BD face & a hand with what, a missing digit or 2? With additional BD pieces, I could apply various BD to the 3 Sentinels & have em look different from each other.

Veronica Mars 07-22-2021 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 875985)
I hope Coel is Storm, she's gorgeous. I also hope they do away with the blue eyes and straight hair.

There are rumors now that she might be replacing Letitia Wright as Shuri

Harbinger 07-22-2021 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 876065)
There are rumors now that she might be replacing Letitia Wright as Shuri

I hope not….she was great as shuri.

TheBlueMarvel 07-22-2021 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 876029)
Hi, You are correct about the "affordability" aspect of my comments. I can afford a $350 Sentinel or Big G for $400 but as with all aspects of my financial purchases, I try to get the best return for my buck & those 2 figures to me, are just not worth those $$. You know what would have probably spurred me to get 2 maybe 3 Sentinels? Instead of a useless MM head & each finger being articulated, I woulda referred a couple of power blast FX to go with that capture coil, a removable BD chest piece, battle damaged leg panels, a half missing arm with coils & wires hangin out of it. The 6' characters could easily have been done in a future X-Wave. Sentinels are giant Terminators on steroids, they can withstand a ton of damage & still accomplish their mission, the figure should have had those accessories to demonstrate what a powerful & dangerous foe he truly is to not only the X-me, but any metahumans & enhanced humans it hunts. Instead they give him a few beauty marks alternate BD face & a hand with what, a missing digit or 2? With additional BD pieces, I could apply various BD to the 3 Sentinels & have em look different from each other.

Not that it needs to make sense to anyone other than you, but I get where you are coming from. I'd have enjoyed some power blasting effects also, especially for Galactus. Damn, dude...you really are some kinda Sentinels fan. I think they are cool, but I'm not as impressed with them as you are. Nimrod, yeah, I get it. But you do know that Falcon defeated a Sentinel all by his lonesome, well, Redwing was there too, in his limited, right? ;) There's no way any amount of Sentinels is taking out the Hulk by the by! lol "WORLDBREAKER!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 876065)
There are rumors now that she might be replacing Letitia Wright as Shuri

That could work, but Michaela has the cheekbones, beautiful eyes, and strong African features I want for Storm. I was never a big fan of Halle as Storm, for a variety of reasons. Coel might be a little too short though; Storm should also be statuesque and have a presence. Before the MCU, when comic heads would just dream about casting for these things, I had a top three: Iman, Grace Jones, and Angela Basset...lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 876072)
I hope not….she was great as shuri.

I like homegurl a lot, but she attached herself to some politically charged matters recently that I could see Disney wanting to distance themselves from. But I suppose we'll see.

Harbinger 07-22-2021 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 876078)
I like homegurl a lot, but she attached herself to some politically charged matters recently that I could see Disney wanting to distance themselves from. But I suppose we'll see.

Sweet christmas…..why cant movie stars just shut up and act. Especially these days….both sides just need to leave their views and opinions outta their professional life and if they wanna be politicos then quit acting and go into politics.

TheBlueMarvel 07-22-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 876079)
Sweet christmas…..why cant movie stars just shut up and act. Especially these days….both sides just need to leave their views and opinions outta their professional life and if they wanna be politicos then quit acting and go into politics.

Tell that to Matthew McConaughey! Or, go back in time and tell it to Ronnie 'RayGun!' ;)

Dr Kain 07-22-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 876072)
I hope not….she was great as shuri.

They better not replace her as I won't accept another actress playing Shuri. Wright is perfect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 876079)
Sweet christmas…..why cant movie stars just shut up and act. Especially these days….both sides just need to leave their views and opinions outta their professional life and if they wanna be politicos then quit acting and go into politics.

Because movie stars have the right to have an opinion too. They're humans just as much as the rest of us.

And I disagree. First, people who are undecided who to support politically are going to side with the person their favorite actors side with.

Secondly, people listen to celebrities. No one gives a shit if some random dude on the internet wants to pay say teachers better salaries. But if you get a high profile actor to speak on behalf of increasing teacher pay, people will listen.

hasbroherofan 07-22-2021 05:30 PM

As in any walk of life they're more than free to speak their mind. Saying "Don't talk about politics" isn't a restriction placed on anyone else, so I don't know why actors should be restricted from doing so as long as they're willing to deal with whatever consequences that may invite.

Anyway I hope Coel is Storm but whoever she ends up playing, I'm in for a treat. I May Destroy You was great.

Harbinger 07-22-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 876089)
Secondly, people listen to celebrities.

And thats the real problem…….they’re actors. They’re not qualified to actually assess these things or such but the sheeple take their opinions as utter fact and gospel instead of listening to actual people who’re ACTUALLY qualified.

Its one thing if celebritards wanna hock cereal or cars…..but unless they have actual degrees from acredited sources then they should keep their schlock on things they kjow thing about to themselves and stick to getting paid exorbitant sums of money to play pretend and dress up. (And i mean both ends of the spectrum)

hasbroherofan 07-22-2021 06:38 PM

Plenty of people voice their opinions on things they're not qualified at all the time. I can't play football at a professional level but that's not gonna stop me from getting mad when a bungled play costs my favorite team the game.

TheBlueMarvel 07-22-2021 06:50 PM

...I don't manufacturer toys, but that doesn't stop me from talking shit about Hasbro's decisions.

Edit: Being an actor, an athlete, or musician doesn't mean that you somehow experience life in ways abstractly dissimilar to everyone else. That said, if you are a celebrity and you decide to be outspoken and passionate about your beliefs, know that everyone might not agree with you and it could cost you everything...but as much was said earlier.

Dr Kain 07-22-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 876099)
And thats the real problem…….they’re actors. They’re not qualified to actually assess these things or such but the sheeple take their opinions as utter fact and gospel instead of listening to actual people who’re ACTUALLY qualified.

But people value their opinions over the professionals, so it's better when they do speak up. It's just that people don't like to hear actors state their opinions if it's what they disagree with. As long as they aren't trying to harm someone there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to speak their mind. Besides, the general populace are also the ones that prod them for their political beliefs and such. Actors aren't allowed to have private lives when it comes to their family and what not, so why should they keep their mouths shut when it comes to their political views? Why is that the line in the sand?

Anyway, back on topic, Galactus has reached 8,600. Only 401 more to go and then the jokes can begin. :)

redfox 07-22-2021 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 875958)
I'm not really familiar with Black Panther's supporting cast, is there someone else she might be?

Some other possible options:

* Aneka- Ex-Dora Milaje in the comics who along with Ayo becomes one part of the vigilante duo, the Midnight Angels. With Ayo already present in the MCU, I could see Aneka becoming part of an interesting foil for Shuri's Black Panther, if they choose to go that route.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.7k4Hxz...id=ImgDet&rs=1

* Madam Slay- Killmonger's lover who finds a way to resurrect him after his first death in the comics. Could definitely see this as a possible comic-inspired way of bringing back Michael B. Jordan's Killmonger into the MCU.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/a7/3e/8...vel-comics.jpg

* Zenzi- Empathic "liberator" that can enhance and can control the emotions of others. She's very AOU-Wanda-esque with the mental manipulation and she even comes with her own version of Quicksilver, named Tetu.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.68a7eb2f...sl=&pid=ImgRaw

* Bast- Panther Goddess of Wakanda. Probably the least likely of my list, but with the MCU tilting towards the more mystic arcana, I'd love to see that side of Wakanda as well.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9b/79...8d57e80071.jpg

En Sabah Nerd 07-23-2021 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfox (Post 876132)
* Bast- Panther Goddess of Wakanda. Probably the least likely of my list, but with the MCU tilting towards the more mystic arcana, I'd love to see that side of Wakanda as well.

I could totally see Bast coming into the MCU as an actual entity. Especially with Moon Knight already happening it's safe to assume that we'll be getting Khonshu so other Egyptian gods could naturally be folded in.

Nimrod 07-23-2021 03:23 AM

TheBlueMarvel stated: Not that it needs to make sense to anyone other than you, but I get where you are coming from. I'd have enjoyed some power blasting effects also, especially for Galactus. Damn, dude...you really are some kinda Sentinels fan. I think they are cool, but I'm not as impressed with them as you are. Nimrod, yeah, I get it. But you do know that Falcon defeated a Sentinel all by his lonesome, well, Redwing was there too, in his limited, right? There's no way any amount of Sentinels is taking out the Hulk by the by! lol "WORLDBREAKER!"


US Army did all the damage to the Sentinel when Sam lured it onto the US Army live fire arty range, even then with all the damage it took, it was still squeezing him to death until Sam had Redwing go in it's head & snap off some wires. As for the Hulk, I refer to 70s-80s Hulk, where a squad of Omega Sentinels fully equipped to take him out, could. I disregard today's unkillable boring versions of Hulk & Wolverine. I lose quick interest in characters that can come back from a drop of blood.

TheBlueMarvel 07-23-2021 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 876141)
US Army did all the damage to the Sentinel when Sam lured it onto the US Army live fire arty range, even then with all the damage it took, it was still squeezing him to death until Sam had Redwing go in it's head & snap off some wires. As for the Hulk, I refer to 70s-80s Hulk, where a squad of Omega Sentinels fully equipped to take him out, could. I disregard today's unkillable boring versions of Hulk & Wolverine. I lose quick interest in characters that can come back from a drop of blood.

Still having troubles with that "quote" thing, huh?

Life would be so much easier, and delusional, mind you, if we were allowed to cherry pick only the parts that confirmed our inherent biases and preferences. Interesting that you accept character progression and ongoing development with the Sentinels in the form of Nimrod, but discount and dismiss the concept when it runs counter to what you believe. The fact remains that Falcon, marginally a mutant, with zero powers outside of his psychic connection with Redwing was able to defeat a "mighty" Sentinel with nary any assistance at all. Pfft, if the army can take out a Sentinel then there's nothing they can do to the Hulk who has flummoxed the armed forces at every turn, in every instance since the very moment the character was created. Great Falcon mini-series, by the way, I highly suggest it to anyone that hasn't read. Also, it's bad form to try to conflate writing laziness revolving around Wolverine's Post Civil War confrontation with Nitro in some weak effort to besmirch the Hulk; nice attempt at misdirection. I also enjoy throwing out that instance of regenerating from a drop of blood as a playful taunt to Wolverine fans when they want me to take their protestations seriously. Got to take those blinders off, son (90's rap vernacular "son"...not meant to infantilize), it ain't 1985 anymore and Days of Future Past never actually happened in the 616. ;)

Benn Roe 07-23-2021 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usernamedustin (Post 876010)
I just came in to post this. Pretty obvious who those silhouettes are. Did Dwight tease that one unlock would be an army builder because a lot of people have a Silver Surfer already and this "bonus" adds a second to your collection? Maybe it will at least be chrome or something different than the Walgreens version.

No, people misunderstood him. He was joking that Galactus himself had “army-building potential”. He’s not very careful with his wording and people often take his off-hand comments to be hints that they’re not (see: comments about Thanos loving balance being misconstrued as a hint that Death would be the BAF of the villains wave, etc.).

Nimrod 07-23-2021 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 876148)
Still having troubles with that "quote" thing, huh?

Life would be so much easier, and delusional, mind you, if we were allowed to cherry pick only the parts that confirmed our inherent biases and preferences. Interesting that you accept character progression and ongoing development with the Sentinels in the form of Nimrod, but discount and dismiss the concept when it runs counter to what you believe. The fact remains that Falcon, marginally a mutant, with zero powers outside of his psychic connection with Redwing was able to defeat a "mighty" Sentinel with nary any assistance at all. Pfft, if the army can take out a Sentinel then there's nothing they can do to the Hulk who has flummoxed the armed forces at every turn, in every instance since the very moment the character was created. Great Falcon mini-series, by the way, I highly suggest it to anyone that hasn't read. Also, it's bad form to try to conflate writing laziness revolving around Wolverine's Post Civil War confrontation with Nitro in some weak effort to besmirch the Hulk; nice attempt at misdirection. I also enjoy throwing out that instance of regenerating from a drop of blood as a playful taunt to Wolverine fans when they want me to take their protestations seriously. Got to take those blinders off, son (90's rap vernacular "son"...not meant to infantilize), it ain't 1985 anymore and Days of Future Past never actually happened in the 616. ;)


Ah, but the Army didn't stop the Sentinel, let alone beat it, The artillery's barrage did nothing but destroy it's exterior body armor, it was still fully functional. Sam having Redwing go thru the gaping hole in it's head & start randomly ripping out every wire it could, finally did the trick.

AOA also didn't happen in the 616 either, yet it's gotten 3 waves of figs 20+ yrs later.

I totally concur with that Falcon 4 issue mini series being great, the plot & the art were great! I wish Marvel would release it via TPB on Amazon Kindle as that's how I buy/read my ol school Marvel comics nowadays.

TheBlueMarvel 07-23-2021 08:49 AM

You better believe the art for the Falc limited was great! You're an Xmen fan and should recognize Paul Smith's art when you see it!

Nimrod 07-23-2021 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 876178)
You better believe the art for the Falc limited was great! You're an Xmen fan and should recognize Paul Smith's art when you see it!

Mark D Bright drew some of the issues as well. I believe they split the art on it, Smith drew 2 & Bright drew 2.

TheBlueMarvel 07-23-2021 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 876215)
Mark D Bright drew some of the issues as well. I believe they split the art on it, Smith drew 2 & Bright drew 2.

Really? I don't recall that. Not a fan

hasbroherofan 07-23-2021 03:55 PM

Can't wait to pick up Surtur.

https://i.redd.it/zsx6yr0j50d71.jpg

Harbinger 07-23-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 876243)
Can't wait to pick up Surtur.

https://i.redd.it/zsx6yr0j50d71.jpg

Looks like the balrog sans wings. Its nice but not 50 bucks nice.


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