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TheBlueMarvel 08-21-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 878510)
Okay, now Hasbro really needs to release Wolfsbane so I can recreate this cover:

https://i.imgur.com/0kMETvX.jpg



It's cool, I like hearing your opinion on the matter.



I don't believe any company deserves to be in business if they can't afford to pay their employees wages that match the cost of living and give them health benefits that aren't going to put them in debt just for getting sick.




I get what you are saying, but let me give you my personal experience, as...



...because this is exactly what I am.

I have a Maseter's degree, which now made me overqualified for full time teaching positions in Colorado because they won't hire people with a Master's anymore due to the notion they have to pay those with the degree higher. However, some districts will hirer those with a Master's degree under the agreement you will not demand a higher rate for having one.

As a sub, I make $120 a day, and only on the days I actually work. I don't get paid weekends, I don't get paid holidays, and I don't get paid in the summer.

A regular teacher here in Colorado is paid between $34-41K a year depending on the school district and the location of the school district. Like Denver Public Schools will pay 40K because you're dealing with poor neighborhoods. The district I'm in pays teachers $34K a year because they're in the richer areas of Colorado. A teacher may be given a .05% raise after three years IF they meet the requirements set by the district during those initial three years.



That's my point though. We know fully well China's factories are not fully staffed with adults.



Then what difference does it make if they are outsourcing to China or manufacturering them here in the states?

Hell, manufacturering them in the states also means they no longer have to have them shipped from overseas. They don't have to pay their employees to fly halfway around the world to do inspections. Those alone would save money.



Dude. you're talking about someone who went to a business high school and took business classes in college. I know what the reality has been for decades, but we're no longer in the 20th century, it's time to move away from the boomer mentality and come up with newer options.



That's because I'm just spouting off ideas and concepts. If this were a college classroom, I would go into better detail with more info. It's just a message board though, so there is no point in doing such.

Lol Sure, okay. A lot of this really doesn't make any sense, dude, but you spin your perception of the world however you choose.

Dr Kain 08-21-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 878513)
Lol Sure, okay. A lot of this really doesn't make any sense, dude, but you spin your perception of the world however you choose.

Well isn't that the point? To converse our point of view on stuff?

TheBlueMarvel 08-21-2021 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 878518)
Well isn't that the point? To converse our point of view on stuff?

Ehh, maybe, but many of the things you're saying just don't add up in the real world. It's ok though, you believe that a $20 toy can be made here while paying a livable wage with benefits and I don't think that's possible. We can end the pontificating with an understanding that we don't agree.

MeLikeJinx 08-22-2021 04:10 AM

Damn... I wish I had an Ollie's where I live... people finding a bunch of 10 dollar Legends at Ollie's on youtube... like Steath Suit Invincible Ironman, Cowboy Wolverine and Punisher War Machine... those older Fan Channel exclusives, plus some other ones too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 878510)
Okay, now Hasbro really needs to release Wolfsbane so I can recreate this cover:

I agree... except Wolfsbane's face and hair looks really different depending on who drew her... I wonder which version they would go with.

The Creator 08-22-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 878523)
Damn... I wish I had an Ollie's where I live... people finding a bunch of 10 dollar Legends at Ollie's on youtube... like Steath Suit Invincible Ironman, Cowboy Wolverine and Punisher War Machine... those older Fan Channel exclusives, plus some other ones too.


I agree... except Wolfsbane's face and hair looks really different depending on who drew her... I wonder which version they would go with.

I saw a ton of those figures at Ollies yesterday but I am a 3.75 scale guy.

Primacron 08-22-2021 01:20 PM

Just to chip in on the production in the US thing. As living standards increase, cheap labour isn’t sustainable so at some point it will move elsewhere - Vietnam, then wherever else.

That said, people in Asia and Europe aren’t going to accept higher prices just to make Americans feel better about themselves so if nothing else production runs will decrease in size making the price per unit higher.

Sataninjaku 08-22-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 878314)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5f0a3d9e_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0305b5d7_b.jpg
I picked up the Scientist Supreme and Hood to finish building Xemnu today. I'd like to give a big public thanks to member Sataninjaku for sending me the chest and right leg. Since I was only two pieces shy of finishing Xemnu I figured I'd scoop them up and rationalize it as $10 each for the Scientist and the Hood and then $20 for Xemnu.

I like the colors on Scientist Supreme and generally he's just got a pretty sharp look. The tech-pad accessory is neat, I like that both sides of the screen are sculpted and they're even different. He pairs well with MODOK but I don't have any AIM goons for them to command, I might see to that at some point in the future. Hood on his own is a fairly disappointing figure (beyond his ability to act as a soon-to-be victim of Xemnu who is vewy hungwy) but his pistols are nice and his body can be head-swapped into a solid background civilian. His cloak is amusingly too big for him, meaning that if you have him wearing it correctly then he can't stand upright because it goes down past his feet.

Finally there's Xemnu and while not flawless I really like how he turned out overall. My main gripe, as I've said before I even had him, is that they made his cyber-tummy a belt-piece instead of a new lower torso. I get that this method was way cheaper and easier but it makes him look like he's wearing a belt and it restricts the ab crunch. The parts that are new (head, hands, and feet) came out really well even if his head's range of movement is quite limited. I recognize that Xemnu is not even remotely a very popular character and the chances of him ever getting a deluxe release later in the line are slim to none so all in all I'm happy with how this BAF turned out, I am, I am.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...988d23dd_b.jpg

Happy to help man, glad to see those parts in action rather than rotting away in my closet!

TheBlueMarvel 08-22-2021 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primacron (Post 878531)
Just to chip in on the production in the US thing. As living standards increase, cheap labour isn’t sustainable so at some point it will move elsewhere - Vietnam, then wherever else.

That said, people in Asia and Europe aren’t going to accept higher prices just to make Americans feel better about themselves so if nothing else production runs will decrease in size making the price per unit higher.

Exactly true regarding sustainability and Apple's Foxconn scandal (suicides and violations of Chinese labor laws, just to name a few) serves to highlight the conundrums faced as a nation industrializes and improves their standard of living. Industry perpetually seeks attractive hubs for manufacturing and I could see a pivot to Vietnam, India, and, eventually, Africa. As much as we citizens of 1st tier industrialized nations sit aghast when we learn of what it takes to provide the consumer goods we buy incessantly (the human cost isn't hidden and is relatively easy to find, provided one cares to even look), there is a beneficial side to these international relationships. The level of poverty in developing nations is of a type that many individuals in 1st-world countries can scarcely even fathom and the manufacture of consumer goods for our consumption - even at pennies an hour - serves to elevate their citizens out of abject poverty. Of course, as the lot of workers in the host nation improves, the conditions of the negotiated relationship become less attractive just as it did years ago on American assembly lines.

I also agree that decreasing production runs is one way to control costs - less is often more. However, I also think robotic innovation is reaching such breathtaking heights that I have to imagine we are approaching yet one more inflection point in industrial manufacturing. Low skill human-drudgery is on its final legs for both practical/cost reasons and social ones. Boston Dynamics just showed off Atlas; a pinpoint parkouring, backflipping robot that just might usher in our demise on many fronts as humans. Skynet beckons, squishy humans.

Get you some new skills everyone, the future cast its steely gaze on us 5 days ago and I blinked...

Harbinger 08-22-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 878536)
Skynet beckons, squishy humans.

Hey sign me up to join the cyborg revolution. Make a cyborg like Coldblood ill help skynet eliminate mankind. ;)

To paraphrase the song by voltaire….”skynet has never seen a soldier quote like me. Not only does his job but does it happily.” Muahahahaha. ;)

TheBlueMarvel 08-22-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 878539)
Hey sign me up to join the cyborg revolution. Make a cyborg like Coldblood ill help skynet eliminate mankind. ;)

To paraphrase the song by voltaire….”skynet has never seen a soldier quote like me. Not only does his job but does it happily.” Muahahahaha. ;)

I think the chances of you being transformed into a death-dealing cyborg are about as likely as you actually reading the aforementioned War & Peace! AAhahahhahaha! ;)

Harbinger 08-22-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 878540)
I think the chances of you being transformed into a death-dealing cyborg are about as likely as you actually reading the aforementioned War & Peace! AAhahahhahaha! ;)

Hey a guy can dream. And i read the first half….the war part. ;)

TheBlueMarvel 08-22-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 878541)
Hey a guy can dream. And i read the first half….the war part. ;)

Haha! That's half more than I've read...

However, I read Dragonlance's War of Souls which is roughly 1800 pages in totality for the trilogy. This doesn't even include Forgotten Realms' Icewind Dale, Dark Elf Trilogy, Legacy of the Drow, spin off Drizzt stuff, and all the Ravenloft books I've read spanning from my teens into college.

But fantasy is a thing for me (has been throughout my lifetime) and I had been a voracious life-long reader of many things up to maybe 2012ish.

Sataninjaku 08-22-2021 09:05 PM

I sincerely miss the days when one could visit a toy forum for a bit of escape.

Boogieman4hire 08-22-2021 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sataninjaku (Post 878549)
I sincerely miss the days when one could visit a toy forum for a bit of escape.

Well at least guys like you make it more palatable what with your kind gesture to En Sabah Nerd. Or a few pages back when everyone expressed their wishes and sympathies to Dr. Kain for a fallen friend. That was nice. Starlord67 for hooking people up when they can't find certain things.

Black Arbor 08-23-2021 04:59 AM

What's the general consensus on discussing toy wants based off a leaked trailer? :D

TheBlueMarvel 08-23-2021 05:19 AM

Just use the lightest *grey* font color to spare the spoiler crowd.

I say go for it, but spoilers don't bug me...so, grain of salt.

Dr Kain 08-23-2021 05:43 AM

People online need to stop posting spoiler pictures from the leaked No Way Home trailer as I'm getting sick of seeing stuff from a trailer I have no interest in watching since I already know I'm going to see it.

TheBlueMarvel 08-23-2021 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 878561)
People online need to stop posting spoiler pictures from the leaked No Way Home trailer as I'm getting sick of seeing stuff from a trailer I have no interest in watching since I already know I'm going to see it.

Lol that's good for YOU, but what about the people that actually DO want to see the trailer? Do their wants count? And by extension, should the MCU also market its movies based solely on whether you intend to watch it, or not?

Starlord67 08-23-2021 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 878551)
Well at least guys like you make it more palatable what with your kind gesture to En Sabah Nerd. Or a few pages back when everyone expressed their wishes and sympathies to Dr. Kain for a fallen friend. That was nice. Starlord67 for hooking people up when they can't find certain things.

@Boogieman4hire...
Thank you for the shout out. I enjoy helping people when I am able. This is a family here to me and family helps family. Y'all be safe!

Raine24 08-23-2021 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 878563)
Lol that's good for YOU, but what about the people that actually DO want to see the trailer? Do their wants count? And by extension, should the MCU also market its movies based solely on whether you intend to watch it, or not?

Pretty sure he's not talking about Marvel's marketing machine but individual people, presumably ones posting spoiler-y content about the film outside the context of discussing the film

Captain Nash 08-23-2021 08:03 AM

I'd heard the Spider-Man trailer leaked. But I haven't seen any images or videos of it. Then again, I haven't gone looking for it either.

TheBlueMarvel 08-23-2021 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine24 (Post 878566)
Pretty sure he's not talking about Marvel's marketing machine but individual people, presumably ones posting spoiler-y content about the film outside the context of discussing the film

Meh, trailers getting leaked early is nothing new. This is especially true of trailers of highly anticipated movies and there are thousands, if not millions, of people that genuinely want to see trailers as soon as possible - even leaked ones. Good luck attaching personal peeves to the pandora's box that is the internet...that cat ain't going back into the bag anytime soon.

Additionally, with films struggling to regain lost traction, I'm not certain that this was an unintentional leak. How are those Marvel movies doing lately with the pandemic as a backdrop; those numbers the same? "Whoooops, oh noes, the top secret screening somehow got out to the adoring Spidey-fan masses!" Hmmmmmmm

Mobb One 08-23-2021 12:39 PM

There's a new timelapse video of some Hasbro engineers assembling Galactus from parts. I can't post the link, since my post count is low.

Black Arbor 08-23-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 878569)
Meh, trailers getting leaked early is nothing new. This is especially true of trailers of highly anticipated movies and there are thousands, if not millions, of people that genuinely want to see trailers as soon as possible - even leaked ones. Good luck attaching personal peeves to the pandora's box that is the internet...that cat ain't going back into the bag anytime soon.

Additionally, with films struggling to regain lost traction, I'm not certain that this was an unintentional leak. How are those Marvel movies doing lately with the pandemic as a backdrop; those numbers the same? "Whoooops, oh noes, the top secret screening somehow got out to the adoring Spidey-fan masses!" Hmmmmmmm

Supposedly we're getting an OFFICIAL release of the trailer tonight around 6:30-7:00, so I'll wait to post my wants. I will say this though; it's BANANAS.

Boogieman4hire 08-23-2021 01:42 PM

It certainly creamed my corn. Boy do I have some wants if it's real.


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