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Nightrain 02-11-2013 10:17 PM

The waist joint on my Vanquish dude never attached securely, so I tried taking a screwdriver and digging in the torso. All that did was make it worse and not stay attached at all. So, uh, if anyone is interested in buying it for parts, let me know.

TimespliTT 02-20-2013 09:06 PM

well, my tali's leg wasnt in good condition and her leg decided it just had enough

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/TimeS.../1dsc02656.jpghttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/TimeS.../1dsc02668.jpg

Shin Densetsu 02-20-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimespliTT (Post 409179)
well, my tali's leg wasnt in good condition and her leg decided it just had enough

*snip*

WTF...dude that sucks!

Kaz 02-26-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimespliTT (Post 409179)
well, my tali's leg wasnt in good condition and her leg decided it just had enough

What a great sh*t!!

Today I discovered another PAK in my collection with a critical issue... when I was looking at my Dante DMC I saw... AGAIN, TWO SAME FEET. In this case two right feet... damn, I'm very angry, this is the third time it happens to me (kazuhira, Ninja and Dante) and the worst time was when I had Kratos on my hands with the arm broken and a missing blade... sh*t!! I'm so dissapointed, those figures are expensive and always... ALWAYS have QC issues. :( :( :(
Then what? I just ordered another Dante... damn, damn!!! DAAAAMN you Square-enix products!!.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g622hpgpd3...+11.40.08_.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SYE5jM2SUG...6+11.42.04.jpg

Dark Hayabusa 02-26-2013 10:39 AM

I think it's fair to say, square enix put all the budget into the paint and no time in quality checking or taking time to assemble figures properly. If it was once ina while, that would be bad luck but after what happened to Kaz, it's something on square enix's end. I wouldn't expect them to say or do anything it though.

Kaz 02-26-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Hayabusa (Post 410658)
I think it's fair to say, square enix put all the budget into the paint and no time in quality checking or taking time to assemble figures properly. If it was once ina while, that would be bad luck but after what happened to Kaz, it's something on square enix's end. I wouldn't expect them to say or do anything it though.

I'm just tired of all about this, Amiami.com acknowledge that they have several problems with the QC issues in the line of PAKS... I don't know why they don't stop selling this figures. If everyone one day stops buying Square-enix products, maybe they will ask themselves what the heck is happening... "Hello!! we're the QC Issues, what's up??" man... I'm very angry... I'm tired of the figures with two same feet... TWO SAME FEET, like a deformed monster from Silent Hill or something like. No, wait, a monster from Silent Hill is more symmetric... you know what? it's time to spread on the internet this issues with the QC issues on every line of Play Arts Kai that appears. The aren't cheap figures and they are full of issues, WTF??. It's time to use Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, etc, and make some noise, maybe Square-enix will open the damn eyes.

TheLoudMaster 03-09-2013 09:01 PM

So is there a way to get replacement parts for PAKs? My Lara Croft from the collector's edition didn't come with a climbing axe.

Shin Densetsu 03-09-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaz (Post 410678)
I'm just tired of all about this, Amiami.com acknowledge that they have several problems with the QC issues in the line of PAKS... I don't know why they don't stop selling this figures. If everyone one day stops buying Square-enix products, maybe they will ask themselves what the heck is happening... "Hello!! we're the QC Issues, what's up??" man... I'm very angry... I'm tired of the figures with two same feet... TWO SAME FEET, like a deformed monster from Silent Hill or something like. No, wait, a monster from Silent Hill is more symmetric... you know what? it's time to spread on the internet this issues with the QC issues on every line of Play Arts Kai that appears. The aren't cheap figures and they are full of issues, WTF??. It's time to use Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, etc, and make some noise, maybe Square-enix will open the damn eyes.

Square Enix will continue to make these so long as there is demand, and right now they are the only company making fully articulated large scale(8"-10") PVC figures with intricate paint apps with a high level of depth. If there were other companies making similar products on par if not better, Square Enix might ramp up qc to be more competitive. However the closest thing to these are Revoltech figures and that's only due to PVC and the Revolver joints.

Even if you and me scale-back PAK purchases, there are plenty of other fans who will buy them. The best you can do is to inform folks about how sporadic the qc is. It really is a gamble buying these figures.

Shadowknight1 03-09-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLoudMaster (Post 413885)
So is there a way to get replacement parts for PAKs? My Lara Croft from the collector's edition didn't come with a climbing axe.

Email Square-Enix. They may be able to take care of you.

Poison Shadow 03-09-2013 11:41 PM

Yikes. I had no idea there were so many QC issues with these things, and I really don't see how you guys put up with it.

My one and only PAK is the Lara Croft I just got with my copy of the game. I'll admit that the paint and detail is quite nice and I like it because it's a pretty good representation of the newly redesigned Lara but... man, are the joints on these figures ugly!

It's distracting and really ruins the otherwise great sculpt. Luckily Lara gets so banged up in the game that I can probably make bandages/wraps to cover up the joints and it won't be noticeable, but otherwise, I don't know... other than the articulation with great range of movement I don't understand why these are so popular.

Shin Densetsu 03-09-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison Shadow (Post 413909)
Yikes. I had no idea there were so many QC issues with these things, and I really don't see how you guys put up with it.

My one and only PAK is the Lara Croft I just got with my copy of the game. I'll admit that the paint and detail is quite nice and I like it because it's a pretty good representation of the newly redesigned Lara but... man, are the joints on these figures ugly!

It's distracting and really ruins the otherwise great sculpt. Luckily Lara gets so banged up in the game that I can probably make bandages/wraps to cover up the joints and it won't be noticeable, but otherwise, I don't know... other than the articulation with great range of movement I don't understand why these are so popular.

For me it's the sculpt/detail/paint apps combined with the articulation; no other company is making any figures like that for under $100. Sometimes SE goes overboard on paint especially on faces, like for BroShep from ME3, but sometimes they nail it.

If another company was making a similar line but better, and for the same price, I wouldn't be buying PAKs.

I think PVC is used for construction because it's easier to sculpt/reproduce finer details with it than it is with stiffer plastics. However for as many strengths that PVC has, whatever weaknesses it has rears its ugly head in this line.

Kaz 03-12-2013 02:15 PM

Finally today I cancelled all my Paks orders, I'm so tired, for me It's a waste of money. I import everything because here in Spain, every figure is more expensive than the original price (the regular price for a PAK is 60-80$... in Spain 100-120$). I loved this line but I'm afraid in every buy I do, because it's a damn gamble. Today my Raiden Pak came with a QC issues in the paint of the chest, bad painted... two weeks ago I had the problem of the same feet on Dante DMC3... two months ago Kratos and Kazuhira... six month the Cyborg Ninja (more or less)... all of they has QC issues. If Square Enix someday changes the QC issues I'll back on the line, but not now, I have enough of all of this. Angry, tired, dissapointed, cheated, afraid, etc... it's a shame. I love the sculpt and articulations, but Im afraid of the QC issues. No more. Maybe with the money I'll save, I'll buy figures from kotobukiya.

lanternjv37 03-12-2013 06:34 PM

does anyone have the figures to show the differences of the Fullmetal Alchemist figures in the Revoltech line versus the Play Arts line?

Also would I want Al in the Play Arts line cause hes bigger for the accurate ratios :-)?

Shin Densetsu 03-12-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaz (Post 414488)
Finally today I cancelled all my Paks orders, I'm so tired, for me It's a waste of money. I import everything because here in Spain, every figure is more expensive than the original price (the regular price for a PAK is 60-80$... in Spain 100-120$). I loved this line but I'm afraid in every buy I do, because it's a damn gamble. Today my Raiden Pak came with a QC issues in the paint of the chest, bad painted... two weeks ago I had the problem of the same feet on Dante DMC3... two months ago Kratos and Kazuhira... six month the Cyborg Ninja (more or less)... all of they has QC issues. If Square Enix someday changes the QC issues I'll back on the line, but not now, I have enough of all of this. Angry, tired, dissapointed, cheated, afraid, etc... it's a shame. I love the sculpt and articulations, but Im afraid of the QC issues. No more. Maybe with the money I'll save, I'll buy figures from kotobukiya.

Man in your case I really can't blame you. These figures really are a gamble and an expensive one at that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lanternjv37 (Post 414521)
does anyone have the figures to show the differences of the Fullmetal Alchemist figures in the Revoltech line versus the Play Arts line?

Also would I want Al in the Play Arts line cause hes bigger for the accurate ratios :-)?

All I know is that the PAK's are a lot bigger and have way more paint apps. Revoltech however, are less risky imo.

Panthro1978 03-13-2013 11:14 PM

Got an Arkham City Robin yesterday. :D

Kaz 03-14-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro1978 (Post 415062)
Got an Arkham City Robin yesterday. :D

It's a badass figure!! congratulations for having a figure without QC issues.

Roc74 03-25-2013 09:33 AM

I just got an PAK Arkham Asylum Batman and he has two right feet. Can the foot be swapped out? Do you think Square Enix have any left to send out? Or do you guys think the Currently release Arkhma City batman uses the same foot mold and peg? Anybody here have 2 left feet batman?

Kaz 03-25-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roc74 (Post 418322)
I just got an PAK Arkham Asylum Batman and he has two right feet. Can the foot be swapped out? Do you think Square Enix have any left to send out? Or do you guys think the Currently release Arkhma City batman uses the same foot mold and peg? Anybody here have 2 left feet batman?

Not batmans, but I have three figures with 2 left or 2 right feet. The solution to your problem is stop buying that figures, because in my case, Square told me "you should talk with the store you bought them, we can't do anything, we don't have replacement parts". Yes, hopless and shamful.

Shin Densetsu 03-25-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roc74 (Post 418322)
I just got an PAK Arkham Asylum Batman and he has two right feet. Can the foot be swapped out? Do you think Square Enix have any left to send out? Or do you guys think the Currently release Arkhma City batman uses the same foot mold and peg? Anybody here have 2 left feet batman?

I doubt Square Enix has any left to spare out, Arkham Asylum Bats has been hard to come by. Nonetheless you should still email them so they'll know.

I've been told that Arkham City Batman is actually taller than Arkham Asylum Batman, so I don't think a foot swap would be possible or look right.

Roc74 03-25-2013 01:16 PM

Thanks for your input guys. Yeah too bad their QC rep is bad. I have my eye on many more PAK figures but might have to reconsider.
Oh well if anybody has a two left feet batman out there, let me know maybe we can work something out, provided the feet can pop out.

bigkid24 03-25-2013 02:07 PM

Holy crap what's the deal with that Metal Gear Raiden? He's already $180 on ebay and he just came out.

orionpax636 03-30-2013 05:21 PM

It's always a knife-twisting activity reading peoples' reactions to the Play Arts QC gamble. I've been notoriously lucky with the ones I own, stories like Kaz' are just really unfortunate. My only similar gripe would have been with my Chun Li figure, whose shoulder hinge snapped clean off.

Most of the recent PAKs I've bought have been solid, with the only problems being the occasional balancing issues that come with PVC figures of this height and weight. My most recent buy, the Halo 4 Spartan Warrior, is actually OUTSTANDING in finish and build quality.

The only advice I can give with these things is 1) to order from a dealer that gets their stock from Diamond, 2) BE VERY GENTLE when manipulating the articulation for the first time, 3) NEVER use the freezing technique to free stuck joints and 4) to use the warm water method to loosen stuck joints instead of freezing. Local comic shops and dealers that order from Diamond Distributing can at least call Diamond to arrange for a replacement for a defective figure, it's how I got a replacement Chun Li free of charge. I caution against the freeze technique because of how brittle it makes thin plastic (which is often the cause of PAK breakage). The warm water method may soften plastic temporarily, which is preferable to hardening thin plastic since there's the chance it will bend instead of breaking during joint loosening.

Shadowknight1 03-31-2013 08:00 AM

Only problems I've had with Square Enix figures was with the original Play Arts line. My Advent Children Cloud Strife took a shelf dive and his leg broke right off. My Advent Children Sephiroth can't use one of the hands he came with because the ball joint got stuck and snapped off. Took for-fuckin-ever to get the ball out of there. I also bought a Lightning figure from FFXIII that had two left open hands, but got that exchanged really easy.

I'm planning on eventually getting FFXIII-2 Lightning and female Commander Shepard, though FemShep takes priority. I'm also very interested in the Square-Enix re-interpretations of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Batgirl.

Dark Hayabusa 04-01-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigkid24 (Post 418408)
Holy crap what's the deal with that Metal Gear Raiden? He's already $180 on ebay and he just came out.

I think he got short stocked. I was gonna get one from HLJ but he's now totally off the site, not even a "out of stock" notice. Most of the Raidens I see on ebay are from the special edition of Metal Gear Rising, with the white armour. I hope those scalpers like Raiden, I get a feeling they're gonna be spending a long time with him unless they realise he's worth nowhere near $100+

Shin Densetsu 04-01-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orionpax636 (Post 420285)
It's always a knife-twisting activity reading peoples' reactions to the Play Arts QC gamble. I've been notoriously lucky with the ones I own, stories like Kaz' are just really unfortunate. My only similar gripe would have been with my Chun Li figure, whose shoulder hinge snapped clean off.

Most of the recent PAKs I've bought have been solid, with the only problems being the occasional balancing issues that come with PVC figures of this height and weight. My most recent buy, the Halo 4 Spartan Warrior, is actually OUTSTANDING in finish and build quality.

The only advice I can give with these things is 1) to order from a dealer that gets their stock from Diamond, 2) BE VERY GENTLE when manipulating the articulation for the first time, 3) NEVER use the freezing technique to free stuck joints and 4) to use the warm water method to loosen stuck joints instead of freezing. Local comic shops and dealers that order from Diamond Distributing can at least call Diamond to arrange for a replacement for a defective figure, it's how I got a replacement Chun Li free of charge. I caution against the freeze technique because of how brittle it makes thin plastic (which is often the cause of PAK breakage). The warm water method may soften plastic temporarily, which is preferable to hardening thin plastic since there's the chance it will bend instead of breaking during joint loosening.

Thanks for the tips man


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