Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 692404)

Wow, that's a really obscure thing to base a figure on. But screw it, it's nonetheless awesome.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 692422)

It is a quite cool looking mask, maybe Randy had this skin in the game so he chose it for the first figure. I'd like a Dark (with alternate ancient lord mask), Hunter (Celtic's mask on this body), and to see some of the aliens (mainly the predalien).

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 692426)

I know Randy had stated that they would eventually be revisiting the Alien vs. Predator: Requiem movie and re-doing the Wolf Predator, so it's probably a given that a Predalien will come out of that line as well.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 692431)

Yeah but I really don't like that predalien design, it was stupidly top-heavy and way too predator with its features. The abomination from AVP-2010 is at least consistent with its proportions and the body looks biomechanical like an alien should.

Originally Posted by The Heat (Post 693411)

So if the Predators use their bio masks in part to assist with breathing in atmospheres different from their home world... then why is this dude missing the mouth piece of his mask?

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 693414)

Nothing ever officially indicates whether or not the masks are necessary to their survival. If the masks do help then we also know they can go without them for some time and this guy was really close to his ship. The mouth piece used in Predator 2 could just as likely be medicinal given his injuries, like it's some kind of morphine mask.

Originally Posted by Xenopedia

In Aliens Vs Predator Deadliest of the Species, the masks are shown also as working as a life support system, allowing the Yautja to breath easily on any world, (The Yautjas can also breath on human worlds, but have more difficulty, having to breath deeper.) It also featured a modified version allowing a human to breath in a natural Yautja environment, which would normally burn the lungs of and kill any human. Though this conflicts with Predator 2, where a human walked around unaided in a Yautja ship without being harmed at all.

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 693425)

The Alien/Predator (Xenopedia) wiki's page for the Bio-Mask says this:


The Alien Species wiki (just a wiki for any fictional alien species) page for Predators mentions that many "Expanded Universe" Predator works, like comics, books, etc. state that they need the mask, but give wildly different, contradicting reasons why, and different explanations of how well they survive in Earth-like atmospheres, ranging from "Can, with some difficulty", to "Can, but only for a week", to "Only for a very short while". It's safe to say that the only thing that indicates in the movies (which are the only things that seem to be indisputably canon with this universe) that Predators maybe have trouble breathing in human atmospheres, as far as I can tell, is the City Hunter breathing from the hand-held mask in Predator 2. And even then, as you suggested, there could be other reasons for his use of that hand-held mask.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 693414)

Nothing ever officially indicates whether or not the masks are necessary to their survival. If the masks do help then we also know they can go without them for some time and this guy was really close to his ship. The mouth piece used in Predator 2 could just as likely be medicinal given his injuries, like it's some kind of morphine mask.

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 693449)

I think Predator 1 & 2 make it pretty clear that the Predators wear the bio-masks to help them breathe better in various atmospheres. There are visual cues that strongly support this:

• The Predators can't remove their masks until they unhook the gas lines
• The City Hunter was seen using a smaller, secondary gas mask after losing his main Bio-Mask (I don't think that was medicine, En Sabah)
• Danny Glover is shown coughing when he first enters the City Hunter's ship, and soon after he's shown having some difficulty breathing:

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So, I think it's pretty clear that the Bio-Masks are intended to be all-around life-support gear with audio/visual enhancement, scanners, video recorders...pretty much whatever any given film's writer needs 'em to be, really.

The one inconsistency I'm surprised doesn't get mentioned more is the goof regarding the Jungle Hunter and City Hunter's heat vision, sans Bio-Mask. In Predator 1, JH's vision goes all red when he removes his mask, but in Predator 2 CH's vision remains exactly the same as when he had the mask on and doesn't . Hmmh.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 693451)

The key word I used in my first post was "necessary." While I generally buy that humans and yautja normally exist in different atmosphere types there's no evidence that one is actually lethal to the opposite species. Predators (the movie) depicts a predator left in the open for hours without a mask on while the humans give no complaints regarding the air so in that scenario it's evident that the two can generally coexist for extended periods without the predator biomasks.

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 693454)

Oh, I think that's made pretty clear in the movies as well. It seems that whatever the Predators breathe is similar to what humans breathe...similar enough that they can get by without their Bio-Masks if need be, but different enough that that they still need a little "boost" here and there when mask-less. Earth air certainly doesn't appear lethal at all to Predators, at any rate.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 693451)

The key word I used in my first post was "necessary." While I generally buy that humans and yautja normally exist in different atmosphere types there's no evidence that one is actually lethal to the opposite species. Predators (the movie) depicts a predator left in the open for hours without a mask on while the humans give no complaints regarding the air so in that scenario it's evident that the two can generally coexist for extended periods without the predator biomasks.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 693455)

I guess it's part of the mystery of the predators that is left to our imagination or future movies.

Re: City Hunter's vision; maybe, and this is a big maybe, his eyes still see in infrared without the mask because of implants. City Hunter is definitely way more into tech than Jungle Hunter was so it's possible that he has implants enabling him to see in that field of vision regardless of his mask.

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 693552)

I like that they don't spell every little thing out in the movies. It's fun to speculate about this stuff. :)