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hurricane 03-25-2021 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dukefett (Post 865328)
I don't know what you find wrong with the knees? I like how NECA does their knees, you don't have two cuts and looks better for most standing poses. I can't believe you'd not order this over joints, you'll never get anything else from this license except maybe 1 Ultimates! by Super7 in like 3 years.
Double knees are the gold standard now and have been for almost 20 years.
They look much better and are 10x better for posing.
All other knee joints are dog crap.

And yes, those terrible knees are enough to ruin the figure for me.

Neca even seems to know this themselves. Look at their new Defenders of the Earth figures. I'd say those are the best figures Neca has ever done

Spooked 03-25-2021 12:25 PM
Good grief. I've got multiple issues with NECA products myself, but the amount of uninformed complaining... :rolleyes:

deecee4 03-25-2021 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 865351)
Double knees are the gold standard now and have been for almost 20 years.
They look much better and are 10x better for posing.
All other knee joints are dog crap.

And yes, those terrible knees are enough to ruin the figure for me.

Neca even seems to know this themselves. Look at their new Defenders of the Earth figures. I'd say those are the best figures Neca has ever done
Id guess that they went with that style of knee due to the added weight of the bulkier Buck and wings, along with that bipedal leg design. Which, over time, could potentially cause a double jointed knee to sag or warp.

HoovenIV 03-25-2021 01:19 PM
I'm not a Neca connoisseur or anything. I've bought a handful of their 18 in figures and have been trying to keep up with their Animated Turtles and Back to the Future lines. But I've never had a big QC issue with them. Nothing I haven't seen from other toy lines. So I'm looking forward to these.

IzzyTipsy 03-25-2021 01:42 PM
I'll take a figure falling apart and with piss poor movement (hell, I have Diamond Select Azula!) if it means I'll have a modern Demona figure to display.

And maybe we can FINALLY get Angela.

dukefett 03-25-2021 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 865351)
Double knees are the gold standard now and have been for almost 20 years.
They look much better and are 10x better for posing.
All other knee joints are dog crap.

And yes, those terrible knees are enough to ruin the figure for me.

Neca even seems to know this themselves. Look at their new Defenders of the Earth figures. I'd say those are the best figures Neca has ever done
Firstly, nothing will top the movie TMNT figures, they're the best things they've ever done and probably will ever do.

Aside from that, this is a very typical NECA joint for most of their human figures. It doesn't break up the sculpt and still provides a good range of motion. I think the massive amount of articulation in the ankle and foot will more than make up for the knee joint.

webz 03-25-2021 02:28 PM
I watched the first season when I was a kid, but never got into it. The fandom for the show has definitely been patient and persevering. This cartoon definitely deserves some nostalgic toys love.

Comedian 03-25-2021 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dukefett (Post 865360)
firstly, nothing will top the movie tmnt figures, they're the best things they've ever done and probably will ever do.

Aside from that, this is a very typical neca joint for most of their human figures. It doesn't break up the sculpt and still provides a good range of motion. I think the massive amount of articulation in the ankle and foot will more than make up for the knee joint.
yup.

Boogieman4hire 03-25-2021 02:53 PM
You know as a marvel legends collector, I thought Hasbro had it for me this year when they revealed Xemnu, one of my all time Marvel legends dream figures. But at this point I've got to hand it NECA. So many freaking reveals this year of things I've always wanted, including that which I never thought I did. Case in point, Goliath here. I want him real bad. And I will try my best for the rest of the series. Except maybe Xanatos. I never liked him or his stupid ponytail. But ooh man, Demona...

captainN 03-25-2021 04:23 PM
I Love it. Going to get 2. One to keep boxed the other to open.

GizmoTron 03-25-2021 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AceSimulacrum (Post 865340)
Yeah agreeing with everything that's been posted, especially the critical ones (QC, availability, legs/knees, etc.) NECA will definitely get some decent sales action from this property and its not too difficult getting reuse for other characters. I'm a bit surprised they just went off with Goliath, a tease of him would have been great if they had Lexington and Hudson first to get a guage of demand. Looking forward to see what NECA does with this and oh, I'd be all over a Bronx if they put one out.

For this Goliath, I would have liked either an alt head with light up eyes or a folded down wing-cape or both those features, you know for that it being "ultimate."
That would have tipped me.
I think the opposite. If you're going to have at least one Gargoyle, it's gotta be Goliath. This might not have been an easy license to secure, either, so I think it best to go with the big guy and then measure the demand based on him.

KELPIE 03-25-2021 05:46 PM
I am not a fan of NECA. I would have preferred Super7 to get this license to be honest.

I'm not a fan of the muscles or the joints.

I am a fan of Gargoyles and will be getting this and all the others they release in this line. Phowar, Gargoyle toys - about time!!

Not looking forward to all the eventual variants.

Dr Kain 03-25-2021 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KELPIE (Post 865381)
I am not a fan of NECA. I would have preferred Super7 to get this license to be honest.
Oh god no. Super 7 super sucks!!

I'm very pleased to hear NECA has plans for more figures, though, I think it is best I do not get into this line no matter how much I want to. I just don't need to start another series I don't have the money or space for. Yeah, that's what I'm going ot tell myself right now.

En Sabah Nerd 03-25-2021 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 865394)
I'm very pleased to hear NECA has plans for more figures, though, I think it is best I do not get into this line no matter how much I want to. I just don't need to start another series I don't have the money or space for. Yeah, that's what I'm going ot tell myself right now.
I look forward to seeing your pics and review :p

prototype0 03-26-2021 12:21 AM
NECA obvious reused the body from superman batman vs alien lines.Now you know why they didn't follow the original animated style beyond that the proprotion of Goliath's leg is way off.If NECA even consider to release a whole series by somehow keep reusing old body parts for each characters,then Elisa will be too short for Goliath because his leg is not supposed to be that long.

no one 03-26-2021 01:14 AM
F!@#k Yeah! Hope they do all of them. pre ordering it today. Gonna have to customize does wings. Give Me Bronx

deecee4 03-26-2021 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by prototype0 (Post 865398)
NECA obvious reused the body from superman batman vs alien lines.Now you know why they didn't follow the original animated style beyond that the proprotion of Goliath's leg is way off.If NECA even consider to release a whole series by somehow keep reusing old body parts for each characters,then Elisa will be too short for Goliath because his leg is not supposed to be that long.
It's the same sculptor who did the DOTE and DC figures but it's 100% a new body.

Dr Kain 03-26-2021 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 865396)
I look forward to seeing your pics and review :p
lol

So do I. :D

Comedian 03-26-2021 08:18 AM
Ha....as soon as I read your post I knew you getting these Dr.Kain. These will be hard to say no to.

Here are some pics I dug out of how I displayed my gargoyle toys. Left is when I was a kid and my parents let me fix up a basement room for my toy collection. Right is when my wife and I bought our house. I know have them separated. The damn ghostbusters collection grew so huge I made its own corner along with the firehouse. Same with power rangers. My castle is on the floor in a spot not becoming of its awesomeness. I will be looking for new real estate, thanks to neca.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cf1b19f5_k.jpgE0AD648A-82BF-4A11-9FDF-25081D74D059 by Comedian Horseman, on Flickr

Black Arbor 03-26-2021 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 865416)
Ha....as soon as I read your post I knew you getting these Dr.Kain. These will be hard to say no to.

Here are some pics I dug out of how I displayed my gargoyle toys. Left is when I was a kid and my parents let me fix up a basement room for my toy collection. Right is when my wife and I bought our house. I know have them separated. The damn ghostbusters collection grew so huge I made its own corner along with the firehouse. Same with power rangers. My castle is on the floor in a spot not becoming of its awesomeness. I will be looking for new real estate, thanks to neca.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cf1b19f5_k.jpgE0AD648A-82BF-4A11-9FDF-25081D74D059 by Comedian Horseman, on Flickr
Damn your parents let you have Mcfarlane figures as a kid? You had some cool parents!

Dr Kain 03-26-2021 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 865416)
Ha....as soon as I read your post I knew you getting these Dr.Kain. These will be hard to say no to.

Here are some pics I dug out of how I displayed my gargoyle toys. Left is when I was a kid and my parents let me fix up a basement room for my toy collection. Right is when my wife and I bought our house. I know have them separated. The damn ghostbusters collection grew so huge I made its own corner along with the firehouse. Same with power rangers. My castle is on the floor in a spot not becoming of its awesomeness. I will be looking for new real estate, thanks to neca.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cf1b19f5_k.jpgE0AD648A-82BF-4A11-9FDF-25081D74D059 by Comedian Horseman, on Flickr
I'm jealous at people who grew up with furnished basements that could be used for stuff like that. Our basement was just basically a hole in the ground for storage, pipping, and the washer/dryer.

Wheeljack 03-26-2021 10:52 AM
To this day I can't help but get chills hearing Goliath's opening narration. ^^

hurricane 03-26-2021 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by prototype0 (Post 865398)
NECA obvious reused the body from superman batman vs alien lines.Now you know why they didn't follow the original animated style beyond that the proprotion of Goliath's leg is way off.If NECA even consider to release a whole series by somehow keep reusing old body parts for each characters,then Elisa will be too short for Goliath because his leg is not supposed to be that long.
Yeah, his proportions do look off to me as well.

He is too skinny and lanky, but I like that they didn't keep him animated style

80sforged 03-26-2021 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 865436)
Yeah, his proportions do look off to me as well.

He is too skinny and lanky, but I like that they didn't keep him animated style
Well it is all the more reason to re-buy him when they do an animated style.

Dr Kain 03-26-2021 03:45 PM
I love that Goliath comes with a jalepeno pepper and the Grimorum.


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