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Dragasses 11-16-2021 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 884597)
So rancor turds are supposed to be an incentive? Hasbro is really craping the bottom of the barrel here.

fixed. but, you ain't lie.

Sataninjaku 11-16-2021 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 884597)
So rancor turds are supposed to be an incentive? Hasbro is really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

I'll be honest, were that a real tier, I'd be all over that like a fly on.... err...

JerpJerp 11-18-2021 02:07 AM

Derp.

RamenRider 11-18-2021 05:45 AM

I wonder how they plan to salvage this tomorrow. It clearly isn't doing that well and I don't think making 2 very good stretchgoals which will most likely not be reached is helping.

Personally, if all else fails I would just move one of the planned stretchgoal into the box. Like, this needs good press and I would say "Here's the fully painted Rancor prototype and surprise, Malakili the beastmaster is now included as well, no stretchgoals needed" is the kind of news that would get people interested in the project again.

dukefett 11-18-2021 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 884721)
I wonder how they plan to salvage this tomorrow. It clearly isn't doing that well and I don't think making 2 very good stretchgoals which will most likely not be reached is helping.

Personally, if all else fails I would just move one of the planned stretchgoal into the box. Like, this needs good press and I would say "Here's the fully painted Rancor prototype and surprise, Malakili the beastmaster is now included as well, no stretchgoals needed" is the kind of news that would get people interested in the project again.

Yeah that'd be nice. Especially considering these "stretch goals" are marketing BS that they absolutely plan to include. I'd love for them to actually include things that are true stretches.

For the Hero Quest Haslab, the final tier wasn't unlocked by the end of the campaign. Lo and behold a few months ago they announced it would be included anyway.

ShabbyBlue 11-18-2021 09:23 AM

I'm betting they extend the deadline by an extra 2 weeks soon out of desperation for this to at least reach its minimum goal.

A 100% brand new figure is crucial at this point to add any new interest to backing this. Malikili is our best bet, but of course so many were hoping for Oola as well since this would have been our only way to get a retail-banned figure like her.

If a dust-weathered Jedi Luke repaint and some other cheap accessories is all we're going to get in the final 2 stretch goals, then Hasbro deserves for this lackluster effort to fail. A "Rancor Pit" Jedi Luke would have sold just fine at retail though and has no business being part of a stretch goal for this. Same for the Gamorrean on a special POTF retro card that only a fool would tear open to have that Gamorrean figure to pose with the Rancor.

Hasbro could have helped promote this thing by saying they had plans to offer some 6" figures in 2022 or 2023 to compliment it as they did with the various TVC figures released at retail to compliment the Razor Crest and Sail Barge. Those several TVC figures weren't forced upon us a stretch goals for those Haslabs, so Hasbro shouldn't have wasted a spot for that Gamorrean repack or for a Jedi Luke if we're getting him too. I just REALLY hope these last 2 stretch goals are not as laughably pathetic as the first two were.

Right now I'm more concerned about the GI Joe Skystriker getting backed in time. That set is more exciting for me at this point than the Rancor has ended up being.

fr0stie1980 11-18-2021 02:48 PM

Galen Marek Starkiller
 
Don't care about the rancor, can't afford it anyway, Please, Make a Force Awakens GALEN MAREK STARKILLER FIGURE.

MeLikeJinx 11-18-2021 09:16 PM

I remember saying the Rancor was a bad choice... that it probably wasn't popular enough... but then people here argued it was a good choice and was indeed popular.

ShabbyBlue 11-19-2021 09:36 AM

So Salacious Crumb and Jedi Luke are the final 2 stretch goals. Could Hasbro be more out of touch with what people wanted?? I can't believe we couldn't even get a Rancor Keeper for this thing. I'll be amazed if it even reaches the 2nd stretch goal by the end of this. I can't possibly see it reaching Crumb and Luke when it's LOSING backers due to cancelations rather than gaining any significant momentum.

I still hope it at least hits the minimum goal since I DO want a Rancor in this scale, but I am severely disappointed in the complete lack of imagination and wasted potential with the stretch goals. The whole thing feels like a rush job at the last minute to come up with whatever existing sculpts they could throw in to offer incentive, rather than putting money into newly sculpted figures. There's no way we'll ever get a massive pegwarmer like Rancor Keeper or a Karen-triggering Oola at retail. This was our only chance for those 2 figures to get an alternative release in a kickstarter MADE for figures not ideal for retail, but instead those slots were wasted on Luke and a Gamorrean, both of which would have sold well as repacks at retail anyway and probably WILL get repacked in 2023 on ROTJ 40th anniversary tribute cards. And Crumb is another repack of a figure we already got in 2013 with the 6" scale Jabba!

jscott991 11-19-2021 09:45 AM

I was hoping someone here might have some insight on why Rancor Keeper wasn't part of it. I can sort of understand the Oola thing, but you'd think Rancor Keeper would have been a slam dunk tier.

Salacious Crumb is just a weird choice.

Comedian 11-19-2021 09:48 AM

Woof. Pitch forks and torches are a coming.

Logically speaking, the gammorean guard on that card, being deluxe would most likely retail for $40….at least.

The Luke I could see on that card as much as $30 at retail.

Crumb, probably $20.

Right there is at least $90.

Add in the accessories and backdrop…..and all these people saying they could print one themselves….the cost I’m sure would be high. That’s a lot of ink.

I feel the value is there. I will most likely get this, but with 3 haslabs and the super7 turtle van….this is a rough time for collectors…..money wise.

That said, they missed the mark. They should have done a rancor keeper and Oola. Hasbro might be shooting themselves in the foot with these tiers. Now we are all waiting to be “dazzled” by them.



Edit…..

The freaking numbers are dropping again. Dear lord.

Tony_Bacala 11-19-2021 09:53 AM

I am not hating on the project, but what is the point of an all new Luke sculpt with technical features and super upgrades if it comes on a card that is designed to be kept sealed. And if it's not, than what's the purpose of the special card?

Assumption is that Luke will hit normal mass retail eventually, along with all the others that people wanted here and aren't. I think the stretches should have been things only available here, and not specially carded if only here.

Maybe toss in a loose Luke, Guard, and Crumb in a plastic baggie so you can actually use them with the Rancor.

Dormamu 11-19-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 884824)
I am not hating on the project, but what is the point of an all new Luke sculpt with technical features and super upgrades if it comes on a card that is designed to be kept sealed. And if it's not, than what's the purpose of the special card?

Assumption is that Luke will hit normal mass retail eventually, along with all the others that people wanted here and aren't. I think the stretches should have been things only available here, and not specially carded if only here.

Maybe toss in a loose Luke, Guard, and Crumb in a plastic baggie so you can actually use them with the Rancor.

I have to agree with all of this. I went and found a loose Jedi Luke for under original cost literally a month ago. Without getting into generalized feelings, this is definitely not what a premium offering of this nature should look like in terms of what is considered 'tier' items. I was hopeful that maybe they would have a more bang for the buck in the 3-4 tier, or perhaps other desired and unreleased in the line characters, but it's still underwhelming.

I am still however proud as a collector of the team because they put their heart into the project.

Comedian 11-19-2021 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 884824)
I am not hating on the project, but what is the point of an all new Luke sculpt with technical features and super upgrades if it comes on a card that is designed to be kept sealed. And if it's not, than what's the purpose of the special card?

Assumption is that Luke will hit normal mass retail eventually, along with all the others that people wanted here and aren't. I think the stretches should have been things only available here, and not specially carded if only here.

Maybe toss in a loose Luke, Guard, and Crumb in a plastic baggie so you can actually use them with the Rancor.

This.

Stupid to have a new figure on collector card art. Luke is obviously coming to the main line but still stupid.

It?s lost almost 50 backers Since the stream ended. I?ve never seen these go down.

DANZ 11-19-2021 10:04 AM

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metalalchemist 11-19-2021 10:08 AM

Was about to back it again, then we had today's presentation...
Sorry, but this thing looks as cheap as its unlock-able tiers.
If this gets funded, prepare yourselves to pay up to $50 for a simple black series figure... they are definitely checking the waters here.
p.s. If it happens, hope someone KOs the crap out of it XD

dukefett 11-19-2021 10:08 AM

This is just a JOKE.

I just cancelled. I might jump in on the end but I immediately ordered in the beginning, I can't understand how they can drop the ball so badly. Repacks are not goddamn stretch goals. A stretch goal is something that wouldn't be made normally. They're going to sell that Luke and Guard again at the very least in other packages. I'm so goddamned annoyed.

IzzyTipsy 11-19-2021 10:12 AM

The all new sculpt figure is just Luke, who will most definitely be released mass retail at some point anyway.

Just say "Oh, we can't make Oola. It costs too much tooling to make a fat bald shirtless guy. We wanted to guys, buy we can't."

ludovicotek 11-19-2021 10:15 AM

I love him. I want him. This is the sculpt and paint that should have been shown during the initial reveal. But damn. Salacious crumb?! He makes no sense without Jabba. I'm really shocked that they didn't give us Malakili.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 884824)
Assumption is that Luke will hit normal mass retail eventually, along with all the others that people wanted here and aren't. I think the stretches should have been things only available here, and not specially carded if only here.

100% agree with this. The new Luke is nice and all, but he'll for sure be offered later on. Not to mention this version of the character has already been offered twice before. They've gotten better each time, but doesn't entice the same way an exclusive character would.

DtLS 11-19-2021 10:19 AM

Wow, the backers for today have gone negative over this shitshow. How the hell do you not make Oola and Malakili for this?

Bo Ttef 11-19-2021 10:22 AM

Glad Oola wasn't a part of it- like I said, she's a big enough character that she can find life at retail eventually, or even as a con exclusive. Saved me from dumping $350 just for one figure. Weird that Salicious Crumb got in there instead of mali- Rancor Keeper though. Maybe they plan on dropping the next Convention Exclusive set as a compliment to the Rancor (that will include figures that we thought "should" have been with the Rancor but as a seperate set...) I dunno... just trying to wrap my head around WTF they were thinking with these weird ass stretch goals

RamenRider 11-19-2021 10:41 AM

Lackluster paintjob, complete garbage stretchgoals, all tied up nicely with a bloated price tag.

Yup, this thing deserves to fail 100%. What the hell were they thinking with this.

dukefett 11-19-2021 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Ttef (Post 884833)
Glad Oola wasn't a part of it- like I said, she's a big enough character that she can find life at retail eventually, or even as a con exclusive. Saved me from dumping $350 just for one figure. Weird that Salicious Crumb got in there instead of mali- Rancor Keeper though. Maybe they plan on dropping the next Convention Exclusive set as a compliment to the Rancor (that will include figures that we thought "should" have been with the Rancor but as a seperate set...) I dunno... just trying to wrap my head around WTF they were thinking with these weird ass stretch goals

The only way you're going to get Oola was as part of this campaign. They put Luke fucking Skywalker as a stretch goal, they're not going to do Oola as retail I bet.

Comedian 11-19-2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DtLS (Post 884832)
Wow, the backers for today have gone negative over this shitshow. How the hell do you not make Oola and Malakili for this?

I believe it?s dropped around 100 now for the day?.give or take. Talk about a HaslabExit.

jscott991 11-19-2021 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukefett (Post 884835)
The only way you're going to get Oola was as part of this campaign. They put Luke fucking Skywalker as a stretch goal, they're not going to do Oola as retail I bet.

I kind of think this was the best chance to get the Keeper too. Is he really going to be part of a mass wave?


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