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Designincase 01-20-2022 12:50 PM

At this point there are various scales out on the market. So no one is really any more correct. Mcfarlane/Neca/Hasbro/Mattel/Bandai/Mafex/Jazwares/Super7 don't need to agree to one size(though it would be nice). Actually as I think about it, Hasbro might be the odd man out.


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• SUPERMAN JONATHAN KENT FUTURE STATE
• HUSH
• BATMAN WHO LAUGHS AS BATMAN IN CLASSIC BATMAN SUIT
• GODSPEED
• GHOST-MAKER
• RED ROBIN
• GRIFTER – INFINITE FRONTIER
• THE FLASH TV SHOW
• GREEN ARROW – DC GAMING
• ARKHAM KNIGHT – DC GAMINg


Now the above the remaining figures that were leaked. So at the moment we can expect one more Batman. Not counting the inevitable two pack rerelease.


So four non Batman but Bat family figures.
Future States/Infinite Frontier seems to be the thing for 2022.

Some more Injustice 2/Arkham stuff.

I assume Godspeed will be comic themed and not tied into the Tv Show version.


So after Batman. Superman/Flash seem to have more representation then others with heroes/villains.

Atomsmasher 01-20-2022 12:50 PM

I have both lines. Like them both.

However at least mcfarlane sculpt is on point. They are some 4h sculpts that look nothing like the comic character they are suppose to be. John Constantine being the first to mind. I just don't want my figures to break.

Raine24 01-20-2022 01:33 PM

WRT figure scale: different sizes come and go, from WGSH to Pocket Heroes to Super Powers to Legends to McFarlane Multiverse... except for G.I. Joe Classified, I've been almost entirely in the 1/10 world for years so when McF starts making DC figures I like, I'll be pumped to have Keaton next to the T-800, which I haven't been able to do since Kenner in the early '90s!

I know cross-compatability with other companies' comic characters is a real big want, but the 1/12 (and for a while 1/18) folks have had all the fun for years! Let the 1/10 people get some heroes beyond Select for a bit. :)

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Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 888638)
From my pov, you've drastically overblown these issues that also plague every plastic figure nowadays. You are making it seems like these figures needs 24/7 maintenance with extreme care which just isn't true. If you own a Marvel Legends figure, you have 90% of a Valaverse experience.

Fair enough, as all my "experience" with VV has been secondhand, and with the figures not interesting me that isn't likely to change. The female Steel Brigade are a strong maybe, but that's about it.

SpasticPlastic 01-20-2022 02:00 PM

I'm just salty because G.I. Joe Classified is 6" and it doesn't fit with my McFarlane, NECA, DC Direct/ Collectibles, Super7, or Diamond Select. I've had several boyhood fantasies about posing Cobra Commander and Lex Luthor playing chess and then having a steam together while Roadblock braids Batgirl's hair. I'm gutted.

BarbaraGordon 01-20-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SpasticPlastic (Post 888685)
I'm just salty because G.I. Joe Classified is 6" and it doesn't fit with my McFarlane, NECA, DC Direct/ Collectibles, Super7, or Diamond Select. I've had several boyhood fantasies about posing Cobra Commander and Lex Luthor playing chess and then having a steam together while Roadblock braids Batgirl's hair. I'm gutted.

I think you have the wrong ship...

https://www.dccomics.com/sites/defau...9.44160408.jpg

SpasticPlastic 01-20-2022 02:21 PM

He's braiding it for her date with Dick.

Raine24 01-20-2022 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpasticPlastic (Post 888685)
I'm just salty because G.I. Joe Classified is 6" and it doesn't fit with my McFarlane, NECA, DC Direct/ Collectibles, Super7, or Diamond Select. I've had several boyhood fantasies about posing Cobra Commander and Lex Luthor playing chess and then having a steam together while Roadblock braids Batgirl's hair. I'm gutted.

If you're made of money, Super7's Ultimate Joes are looking pretty good! But yeah, Classified being so much shorter than NECA is a bummer for my BA Ladies display. Don't get me started on trying to get Baroness and Ripley to share a bike....

BarbaraGordon 01-20-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SpasticPlastic (Post 888689)
He's braiding it for her date with Dick.

If McF makes more Batgirls, one of them has to be this:

https://i.postimg.cc/0jjhJjb7/Batgirl12.jpg

IzzyTipsy 01-21-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 888687)
I think you have the wrong ship...

https://www.dccomics.com/sites/defau...9.44160408.jpg

They're back together AGAIN?

Poor Red Hood. He tried and failed to get Babs recently. Then again, doesn't he have Artemis now or something?

Comics are 99% shipping these days, aren't they?

MrMultiverseMan 01-21-2022 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888653)
I'm amazed at how Mcfarlane just continues to pump out virtually nothing but every single Batman he can think of doing even if it just appeared for one panel in someone's dream & people keep buying them. They are staction figures, they come with zero extra headsculpts/hands, asides from a very rare few that I've seen, They're in the 7' scale so incompatible with ML. The 4HM DCUC line will always be the standard by which I measure other DC related action figure lines by & they are still the best action figure line based on DCU characters, not just Bat related characters. And just bout everything in this line is modern based or movie/video game based. I truly don't get what ya'll see in this line??

Why are people complaining about McFarlane making too many Batman's when they have only been around for a couple of years. Come back in ten years time and tell me then you haven't got enough different characters!

And also, neca and DC Collectibles are all 7 inch scale and by far the more superior figures too Hasbro's rip off cheap repro's!

How on earth is anyone gonna say that marvel legends cheap rubbish is better than DC Collectibles or neca Ultimates?

Solrac333 01-21-2022 08:46 AM

I might get these for customs and parts swapping. As they are, I really don't care. They couldn't just promote Luke Fox from Batwing to Batman, they had to make another on of Lucius' kids to be Batman. I don't even like where the story is headed.

BarbaraGordon 01-21-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IzzyTipsy (Post 888716)
They're back together AGAIN?

Poor Red Hood. He tried and failed to get Babs recently. Then again, doesn't he have Artemis now or something?

Comics are 99% shipping these days, aren't they?

It's complicated.

Barbara and Jason almost got together during New 52.

They kissed in Three Jokers, and he left an "I love you" note on her door (but it fell off and got swept away by a janitor). It's not clear when the story takes place, though assuming Rebirth...

Jason's out of luck because Barbara and Dick are getting back together now.

Jason and Artemis went on a "date", but it was actually a ruse so that they could go somewhere to discuss work without anyone else seeing or hearing them. Subsequently, Artemis and Bizarro disappeared for a long stretch of time.

Designincase 01-21-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMultiverseMan (Post 888717)
Why are people complaining about McFarlane making too many Batman's when they have only been around for a couple of years. Come back in ten years time and tell me then you haven't got enough different characters!

And also, neca and DC Collectibles are all 7 inch scale and by far the more superior figures too Hasbro's rip off cheap repro's!

How on earth is anyone gonna say that marvel legends cheap rubbish is better than DC Collectibles or neca Ultimates?


Well this last week just proved the problem. Last four announcements and three of them of them are Batman figures. The current two waved dropping right now in stores are Three Jokers and The Dark Knight Returns.


You should be able to see the Batman perception. There are plenty of BATMAN only figures(not Bat family). But you got like one Aquaman. Green Lantern has only two figures and it goes downhill from there.

The 10 year plan is just not acceptable.


Hasbro?
They are far more variety and consistency. Though some lines that QC in terms of paint apps is a horror story.

I'd say everyone needs improvements.


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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123 (Post 888727)

Wow so 3 years into the line and we are finally getting a CW Flash figure. Christ Todd

Given how CW Flash is on his 5th suit........I'd cut them some slack. DC revamped Barry Allen's costume for DC You right before the CW gave Flash back his white logo.

Jester 01-21-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 888561)
At first I preferred the ball joins for ankles and wrists on paper anyway, but for whatever reason I do have trouble getting them how I want them in action. This is not McFarlane specific, the tech for joints is a pain in the ass and a decision they all make with pros/cons for each.

To each his own. I vastly prefer the additional range of movement that McFarlane's wrist/ankle joints provide (there are certain angles that you're never going to achieve with Hasbro-style X-axis only/Y-axis only wrists). Plus, they've been the standard in the 12" world for decades now, so manipulating them is second nature to me.

I'd also much rather have to futz with a McFarlane-style ankle joint for a few seconds longer than be stuck one of the approximately 50% of all Hasbro 1/12th-scale figures that are crippled by the absence of calf-swivels, like movie Deadpool, who is such a beautiful sculpt and yet is so frustrating to pose because any really deep stances inevitably end up looking extremely wonky (not to mention precarious) thanks to the inexplicable lack of calf swivels on that figure (even though his calves are actually separate pieces to begin with).

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 888561)
Really, if current tech from any company is all that's available - I think I'd choose what Mattel is doing on their Masterverse line for MOTU. Good balance of visuals and functionality.

Examples: Masters of the Universe Masterverse Wave 1 – Revelation – In Hand Gallery!

Pretty sure the Masterverse figures' feet are articulated exactly the same way as any current Hasbro figures. The ankle pin might be inserted in the foot at a slightly shallower angle, but that's about the only possible distinction I can think of.

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 888563)
I'm okay with ball joints for wrists and ankles, but the ratchets/notches that McFarlane uses hinder posability as much as they may provide stability.

I've only noticed this on the "White Knight" Azrael figure.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 888570)
Nopers. Hasbro's GI Joe Classified has the best articulation scheme on any 1/12th figure on the market today. Todd's BS ugly as sin ball "hey look! I'm a joint and don't blend in to any figure and am damn near impossible to use" joint results in a figure without the ability to stand flat footed AND rotate. It sucks.

LOL no.

For one thing, Todd's figure's aren't 1/12th scale (except the Warhammer line, arguably). :p

For another, "Classified's" theoretically very good articulation scheme tends to come up short in reality via a number of failings: floppy feet (or feet rendered almost immobile by those stupid shin-guards that every other character seems to be stuck with), floppy waist joints, floppy elevator hips, torso articulation almost entirely canceled out by the included vests and harnesses (Flint's armoured LBV is a particularly atrocious example), hands with the wrist articulation in the reverse of the expected order (so Duke, Flint and Snake Eyes have pistol holsters on their right legs but come with right hands that turn on the X-axis while their lefts turn on the Y). McFarlane is much more consistent, I've found, particularly with regard to quality control. I've never yet had to pre-boil a McFig whereas this is something I have to do for virtually every Hasbro figure I purchase.

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Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 888575)
Valaverse Action Force figures take the throne at their price point.
It takes all that works about Gi Joe at the moment and makes it better. More range and smoother joints.

Very true.

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Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 888575)
It makes what Mcfarlane's attempts kinda a joke. There's no technical reason Mcfarlanes figures can't have the range of articulation with the clean looking joints. That Mcfarlane does more sculpting makes that worse.

Not so much. :p

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Originally Posted by snake5289 (Post 888578)
Meh. Only future Batman I care about is Beyond.

Shriek might be my favourite DC figure that McFarlane has produced to date. I love how they three-dimensionalized the original (very vague) design into something more textured and detailed but still fitting the smooth-lined "Beyond" aesthetic.

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Originally Posted by Raine24 (Post 888581)
A figure should be taken out of the "smooth joints" ranking when they have to be boiled before play so they don't literally snap in half, imo.

Hasbro should honestly issue the same warnings that Vala has, IMO.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 888584)
VV figs 10 bucks more and the character designs are basic.

No, they're not "basic." They simply don't fall prey to that overdesigned "4K Ultra-HD" aesthetic that "Classified" suffers from, where every figure's costume has to have eight different textures sculpted on it because reasons. :rolleyes:

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Enterta...21_4x5_992.jpg

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Originally Posted by Raine24 (Post 888586)
And you know your Classified money is at least partially going to good peeps like Lenny and Emily, while your VV cash is going straight to Baron Bear Douche Grudge Holder, Keeper of Years Old Comment Printouts :/

I see it the other way around. I know my Valaverse money is going to support an independent business rather than a faceless, top-heavy mega-corporation.

And really, at this point, I am waaaaaaaaay more irritated by people griping about Vala than whatever feud Vala happens to be pursuing at the moment. It's not hard to find douchebags in this hobby (hello Justin Bell, Michael Crawford, Dan Larson, Michael French, Junkman, etc). As long as Bobby keeps his line rolling I could care less about the background drama.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine24 (Post 888601)
I play with my toys, so a bath is not just an inconvenience but a deal breaker. Not even my NECA have had to go through all that.

All of my NECA figures have had to go through that. And then sometimes they break anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 (Post 888628)
Huh? What twist?

That's kind of my point. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee4 (Post 888632)
Wait, hes supposed to be a black guy? I didnt pick up on that from the artwork...only noticed that theres a resemblance to Michael Keaton. If it were me, I would've based it on Michael Jai White but whatever.

The artwork does look weirdly like a black Michael Keaton.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 888638)
If you own a Marvel Legends figure, you have 90% of a Valaverse experience.

QFT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonedweeby (Post 888640)
as if Bruce Wayne is an indelible character with dimensions and depth

even he knows he doesn't have a personality and that's why he hits his motif harder than any other comic book character in history

As if making him black is going to change that. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888653)
They are staction figures...

Really living up to your name there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888653)
They're in the 7' scale so incompatible with ML.

Thank God.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888653)
The 4HM DCUC line will always be the standard by which I measure other DC related action figure lines by & they are still the best action figure line based on DCU characters, not just Bat related characters.

Never could get into DCUC. Something about the figure's articulation (or lack thereof) and proportions just felt "off" to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888653)
And just bout everything in this line is modern based or movie/video game based. I truly don't get what ya'll see in this line??

The market must disagree with you because it doesn't look like Todd is showing any signs of slowing down...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 888662)
Because there are some of us who are Marvel & DC fans & have always dreamed of being able to be able to pose the Avengers in Battle vs the JL, Thor vs Supes, Bats vs Cap, etc. Can't do that when Supes towers over Thor or Flash over QS.

So in other words it's OCD, as Babs said. :p

BarbaraGordon 01-21-2022 11:18 AM

The ankle joints also don't work so well when McF designs boots that restrict movement, such as the two Gal Gadot WWs. It's too bad because they're otherwise beautiful action figures.


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