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Harbinger 07-27-2022 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 903661)
Got that sucker on Blu-Ray. Another to throw out there is Lord of Wars. I'd recommend it. Also while corny I really liked The Rock.

The weatherman is a good albeit odd one.

Boogieman4hire 07-27-2022 06:18 PM

Yes that one too. The trailer for it is what introduced me as a child to Iggy Pop. Like a stone...

Kernel 07-27-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Arachnid13 (Post 903625)
I didn’t know Nicolas Cage played ghost rider, I just know of him because of that odd Willy’s wonderland movie.

He relieves himself and sprays fire! Hopefully haslab will make a flame stream to go with this!

Dr Kain 07-27-2022 10:17 PM

Lord of War is quite good and I love the opening to the film where we see everything from the viewpoint of a bullet.

The Rock is utterly amazing and Cage's best film ever.

After that is hands down Willy's Wonderland from last year. OH my god, if you guys have never seen it and are horror fans, you must do so.

I was disappointied with Color Out of Space, but that's because the movie really rushed the story to happen over the course of a few days whereas the original tale was spread across a year. I just felt like the effects being slow made it much scarier.

GizmoTron 07-28-2022 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AAA (Post 903550)
Honoring the 50th anniversary of Ghostrider with Robbie Reyes would be such a huge slap in the face of Johnny Blaze...

Trying to push out a Haslab of Johnny when most ML fans already own a version of him would be worse.

Killerzeestoys 07-28-2022 07:29 AM

There's a couple bike GR figures out already, Robbie would be the obvious go to.. but I don't see why they wouldn't include the other Riders since Galactus is technically 4 figures.

Designincase 07-28-2022 07:57 AM

Let's be honest, if it's a Ghostrider Vehicle. It needs to come with that Ghostrider and then the tiers needs to be an improved pinless version of Johnny/Danny/Robbie. If all Tiers are reached, a backer should have those three Ghostriders.

It's like Silver Surfer not being a Tier in the Galactus Haslab. It needs to feel like a complete package.

Boogieman4hire 07-28-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 903679)
Lord of War is quite good and I love the opening to the film where we see everything from the viewpoint of a bullet.

The Rock is utterly amazing and Cage's best film ever.

After that is hands down Willy's Wonderland from last year. OH my god, if you guys have never seen it and are horror fans, you must do so.

I was disappointied with Color Out of Space, but that's because the movie really rushed the story to happen over the course of a few days whereas the original tale was spread across a year. I just felt like the effects being slow made it much scarier.

Willy's Wonderland was fun too and I agree about Color Out of Space. But I'm still happy to have that movie in my collection.

Harbinger 07-28-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 903722)
Willy's Wonderland was fun too and I agree about Color Out of Space. But I'm still happy to have that movie in my collection.

All i gotta say bout cage is….” OH NO Not the bees!” ;)

Kernel 07-28-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger (Post 903723)
All i gotta say bout cage is….” OH NO Not the bees!” ;)

Ha ha good one oh man I saw wicker man in theater... That was an odd one.

“..... ... ok let’s ride”

Maybe they can do a ghost rider quin jet

Killerzeestoys 07-28-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 903728)
Ha ha good one oh man I saw wicker man in theater... That was an odd one.

“..... ... ok let’s ride”

Maybe they can do a ghost rider quin jet

Cage in the Rock/face-off/conair Era is still my favorite!

80sforged 07-28-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sataninjaku (Post 903658)
I've been hoping all afternoon that someone would mention that one (though I apparently couldn't be assed to do so myself).

Easily his best, IMHO.

I would go with Pig myself. He's more restrained, but he seems like he could explode at any minute. Also that scene where he takes down that restaurant chef is pretty brutal. Actually his character was almost a metaphor for Mount Hood.

EternianJerkian 07-28-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 903665)
Yes that one too. The trailer for it is what introduced me as a child to Iggy Pop. Like a stone...

Blimey, given the opening lyrics to one of his songs from 1995 based on stuff he got up to in the 70s, that made me cringe a bit.

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Originally Posted by 80sforged (Post 903634)
Actually, going to go see 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' tomorrow as a Fathom Event. It was his big screen debut as far as I know.

I have zero recollection of Cage in that movie at all. lol.

Anyways I dunno. I'm not a big fan of Cage but his 90s action hero self got the job done alright. Thankfully we were spared him as Superman though.

ScottyHawkeye 07-28-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trader Bronx (Post 903538)
I'm really, REALLY hoping it's Robbie Reyes and his car so I could save some money. I couldn't care less about the character as he's not even a real "Ride"(he's not powered by the Spirit of Vengeance).

My guess is, this is going to be the mother of all Ghost Rider offerings:

1. Danny Ketch
2. Johnny Blaze
3. Robbie Reyes

And ALL of their respective vehicles. 300 bucks. Stretch goals being Blackheart, Mephisto, and...Blackout?

How about Vengeance?

ScottyHawkeye 07-28-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Arachnid13 (Post 903625)
I didn’t know Nicolas Cage played ghost rider, I just know of him because of that odd Willy’s wonderland movie.

Yeap. He played the part twice. Ghost Rider came out in 2007 and the sequel Spirit of Vengeance came out in 2012.

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Originally Posted by snake5289 (Post 903640)
Never watch them.

Yeah, they're bad movies. At least the second one is entertainingly bad.

ScottyHawkeye 07-28-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 903692)
Trying to push out a Haslab of Johnny when most ML fans already own a version of him would be worse.

I have the Toybiz Johnny Blaze Legends figure already and Blackheart too. How about a Danny Ketch?

EternianJerkian 07-28-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyHawkeye (Post 903752)
Yeap. He played the part twice. Ghost Rider came out in 2007 and the sequel Spirit of Vengeance came out in 2012.

That seems like a relatively large period between knowing the first one wasn't well liked but going ahead with a sequel anyways.

snake5289 07-28-2022 01:15 PM

What made no sense to me is that the beginning of the second movie pretty much retcons everything about the first movie so why is it still a sequel with Cage playing him? Should've gone the Punisher War Zone route of it being a completely separate movie.

Designincase 07-28-2022 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian (Post 903761)
That seems like a relatively large period between knowing the first one wasn't well liked but going ahead with a sequel anyways.

It was a reboot with the same actor. It abandoned the whole origin story from the first film. Though Ghostrider looked better.

They made Danny Ketch a little kid with Johnny the substitute dad........It had some nice bits but doesn't work as an interesting movie.

80sforged 07-28-2022 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternianJerkian (Post 903761)
That seems like a relatively large period between knowing the first one wasn't well liked but going ahead with a sequel anyways.

Featured in some school scenes as one of Brad's buds, and some early scenes in All American Burger. Pretty much a glorified extra (might have had more scenes that were cut). Thought this was a fun way to close the circle after seeing 'The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent'.

ScottyHawkeye 07-29-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 903789)
It was a reboot with the same actor. It abandoned the whole origin story from the first film. Though Ghostrider looked better.

They made Danny Ketch a little kid with Johnny the substitute dad........It had some nice bits but doesn't work as an interesting movie.

Eh. The origin animation intro is inconsistent with the one in the first movie largely because they had a different crew working on the film. The substance of the origin is relatively the same and there's a bit explaining why Mesphisto is played by a different actor in Spirit of Vengeance than in the first film.

ScottyHawkeye 07-29-2022 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake5289 (Post 903762)
What made no sense to me is that the beginning of the second movie pretty much retcons everything about the first movie so why is it still a sequel with Cage playing him? Should've gone the Punisher War Zone route of it being a completely separate movie.

Not sure it retcons the first film, the animated intro sequence presents the origins story in a way that contradicts how it was shown in the first film. The origin is still Johnny Blaze making a deal with the devil to save his dying dad for selfish reasons and his dad still died turning him into Ghost Rider. Also, there's an entire bit explaining why Mephisto is played by a different actor in the second film.

Designincase 07-30-2022 01:05 PM

The first film shows us the origin of Cage's Johnny Blaze. Who he made a deal with. Why he made the deal. The consequences of the deal. Then the film ends with him accepting the Ghostrider and promising to use it against the guy.

Now the changes in the 2nd film was required because everyone else sans Cage turned the film down. So it had to become a reboot.

I don't remember the bit about them explaining the face change. Just maybe a line about the devil wearing different faces.

But it's like Dracula 2000 and it's two direct to video sequels which negate the first film.

Point is it failed really hard which is one of the reasons why Marvel decided to form a movie studio.

ScottyHawkeye 07-30-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 903912)
Now the changes in the 2nd film was required because everyone else sans Cage turned the film down. So it had to become a reboot.

I don't remember the bit about them explaining the face change. Just maybe a line about the devil wearing different faces.

It's an entire animated sequence about how the Devil's body dies over a period of time and that he needs to get a new form in order to keep walking outside of hell. I haven't been able to find it on YouTube, but I know it's in the movie.

It's like Superman Returns in the sense that it's unclear whether it's a reboot or sequel to previous films. It has a bit of an identity crisis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 903912)
Point is it failed really hard which is one of the reasons why Marvel decided to form a movie studio.


Yeah. I will say the Ghost Rider movies came out when Marvel had formed its studio. I guess the revenue from previous blunders like Man-Thing and Elektra lead to Marvel Entertainment establishing Marvel Studios in 2006. Ghost Rider was just the end of that disastrous era for Marvel.

Boogieman4hire 07-30-2022 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyHawkeye (Post 903925)
It's an entire animated sequence about how the Devil's body dies over a period of time and that he needs to get a new form in order to keep walking outside of hell. I haven't been able to find it on YouTube, but I know it's in the movie.

It's like Superman Returns in the sense that it's unclear whether it's a reboot or sequel to previous films. It has a bit of an identity crisis.




Yeah. I will say the Ghost Rider movies came out when Marvel had formed its studio. I guess the revenue from previous blunders like Man-Thing and Elektra lead to Marvel Entertainment establishing Marvel Studios in 2006. Ghost Rider was just the end of that disastrous era for Marvel.

Hot dog! Someone else remembers a Man-Thing movie exists.


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