Check this out guys.
UFO over Jerusalem dome of the rock Israel - YouTube
It's from 2 different angles.

I think the events of page 2 illustrate why I wanted to avoid the whole: the universe is so vast that there must be life outside of earth, argument in my initial post.

Invarriably an alien life "believer" brings their "religion" into it and it becomes a pissing contest.

I really just wanted to talk about earthbound alien encounters and what people thought of them.

Are they real? Fake? Made up or believed?

I myself am so unsure. Like I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the beliefe that there are beings who can travel to earth virtually undetected then leave :/ rather they exist sure I think they do but I just have too big an ego to think they are that much further advanced then us

The guy at work and I kind of decided that the beings he saw were from another dimension as opposed to an alien planet.

so are you saying that your not certain there are aliens and or life on other planets?because that would completely nullify any "story" of aliens having even been here,if you think that life outside this planet is not a statistical certainty then how can you even begin to trust or even entertain the validity of someones story?

I like to keep an open mind.

The point is what to make of it.

The story sounds crazy, but the guy doesn't seem crazy.

And he doesn't seem like he's lying.

Wow that would really be something crazy. ...I also believe in beings from other dimensions. But thats a whole nother thread

I have an easier time accepting this theory than the alien life one.

His aliens are all perfect versions of things, and he talks about having a third eye.

I think he may have access to Plato's dimension of the Forms.

You know. I have an issue with people with a third eye. 92% of the time people with "a third eye" are nothing more then crazy people with really big egos.

Maybe he suffers from (undiagnosed?) schizophrenia. Some people who have it appear quite normal otherwise.

For realsies?

This dude is really down to earth.

Maybe he's part of the other 8%?

I thought this on the way home from work today, but then figured they diagnose all of the people who have encountered aliens with schizophrenia.

Its possible. I actually believe there are people who have "the gift" (again another thread idea lol) thats why I didnt say 100% or all. So hell who knows you may very well know someone who has a third eye.

Aliens? really? Just remember guys. Use your critical thinking skills.

Who gives a shit it's aliens, America is full of them. A lot illegal ones too.

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Now as far as encounters I've had a few. 3 stories all real and I've been there for all 3. 2 involve my good friend Thomas. When he lived at home he was out in the country like hr drive from my place, and he lives on a deadend street maybe 10 houses total, his house sits on about 25-30 acres of land which is full of trees, and woodland. Basically fair size front yard but massive back yard. Behind him there's nothing but woods the next house behind him is over 10 miles away. Every now and then I'd go over and sleepover hangout... and during the night there would be a single red dot that is bright as can be in the middle of his back yard, it moves on it's own, up down, left right etc. Because there's nothing remotely close behind him we were like wtf... so 1 night we got the courage to go out in the wood and "find the light", it wasn't a driveway marker, or led light,flashlight, headlight nothing like that, from a distance it looked like an apple sized red ball hovering. We stumble through trees and logs trying to find this thing w.e it is. By the time we got maybe within 25 ft of it, the light turned into 2 then went BAM! 10 Ft straight up into a tree, and started making noises... at that point we slowly backed the fuck up. and as we started retreating the eyes came down and down and then started getting closer, we fucking ran. To quote fight club " I ran until my heart pumped batteryacid", the next day we went outside and on his bedroom window was 3 claw marks the whole length of his window, like 1/4'' deep. scared me for a while. I refuse to go back.

The other occurance with him was at an abandoned house about half a mile across a field which would be before you even turn onto his street. The house is a massive 2 story house, that's been abandoned, and boreded up, Myself,Thomas his cousin Darcy and his gf at the time Jess came with us, the house was condemed because the husband murdered his family and himself in it like 20-30 years earlier. We walk in, it's kinda what you expect broken windows,walls, the odd bug and rat. The walls are littlerally 4-5' thick, and because the wall damage you can walk inbetween the walls, every room has a door which connect to the next. Back in it's day this house would of been something tons of craftsmanship from the crown-moulding to the hand carved stair bannasters etc. The upstairs had bloody hand prints on every wall, newspapers covered in blood. a baby seat with chains and locks. A few bear traps randomly placed, (PEI, has no bears, coyote is the biggest animal). basically the place was just giving me the get the fuck out of their vibes, and this was during the day, there was also a basement with what we that was a "clicking noise" like chattering teeth coming from downstairs, it's a cross between Ammityville and leatherface's house.

3rd story, This happened at my parents house 1 night, by myself as folks were out of town. I was on the computer, phone rings I pick it up, hear some heavy breathing then phone d/c. 10 mins later same thing, no call display no nothing no answer, this continues every 10 mins for about a good hr, and at this point I'm getting kinda freaked out. Next thing I know the doorbell rings, first the back door then the front door. This continued for a good 4-5 mins, making me run back and forth grabbing a kitchen knife. I didn't see anything. Across from my mom's place is a convience store right across, so I figured maybe some punk kid causing trouble or 1 of my sister's friends. the last time the doorbell rang was the front door, I go there and there's like a black film covring the door I open it and see nothing but then I look at the end of the driveway near the garbage was and 2 bright red eyes in a dark figure is starring back at me, then just as fast as I closed my eyes praying it to be gone it was..... Honestly I believe that night I encountered the darkman/shadow man. I hate my parents house lol.

Another thing My boss, was born in Sable Island NFLD, which is known for having some of the most reported ghost/alien sitings not just in Canada but in the world! He told me on a few occcasions he's seen aliens and their ships. I believe the guy he's as honest as you find em... plus if anybody into those ghost hunter shows, a few of the episodes were shot there mainly the top story ones. I think the universe is so large that we'd be foolish to think we're alone, hell we still keep finding new species of insects,birds,plants and animals, not to mention the ocean has only a fraction of it's surface even looked at.... so who knows we could have beings already here and we're not aware of it. PS "Fire in the Sky" is a good movie. all this talk about Aliens makes me want to watch E.T

Ha, the day I trust a newfie is the day that I stop collecting toys... Hahaha, just kidding. They're great. Yeah, NFL is supposed to be creepy as hell.

Those are amazing stories dude. Here on Van Isl, we got hundreds of bigfoot sightings, there was actually a whole thing on Discovery about Sasquatch being seen a few mountains over from my place! Also down in Cowichan Bay. All the sightings are easy enough to drive to, some you need 4x4 for, but I got that covered. But back on Aliens, nada, no experience with them AT ALL. However, I had a friend on Runescape [yes, laugh it up] tell me how I can MEET Aliens. Sadly, the name of the race escapes me, but I will try my hardest to remember! Anyways, he told how I can meet them, and I will share how you can too! No, no drugs are involved, but it takes a lot of metal power and control over your emotions for this to work.

Step 1: Turn off everything in your house, and I mean everything, everything needs to be unplugged and your breakers need to be all shut off. NO ENERGY FLOW.

Step 2: Get comfy, do something that makes you happy for when you sleep, you have ZERO negative energy around you.

Step 3: Relax, try not to think, if you have to think, make sure it is something that makes you extremely happy, but not sexually happy :P.

Step 4: Enjoy the ride, be polite, they will share the universe with you!

Step 5: THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. There are things in the universe that our human mind cannot understand, but will try too. By that I mean this aliens will ask you if you want to go to certain places, always politely decline. Your brain will shut down and you will either die or come close and wake up with a splitting headache. Also know that they don't take you physically, only mentally!

Haha you forgot the D, NFL is National Football League, NFLD is Newfoundland. Yeh it is a very creepy place was there years ago on a school trip. It's a semi large island surrounded by large boulders and cliffs, hundreds of ships have crashed into the rocks over the province's history, that and coal minning accidents and it's 1 of the only places in the world that can have 3 different weather forecasts for the same place day 1 side could be sunny , the other could be rain, while some get snow. Tis fucked.

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Ever go on the site erowid? it's a site about drugs of all sorts legal and illegal and they post trip stories some funny, some sad and some down right frightning, if you read some of the trips on payodie, and a few others, it sounds very similiar to #5.

No, I haven't. As cool and helpful as this buddy was, he was completely out of it. But he had so much history to back it up, like people a little before WW2 having visitors come to them in their dreams and take them on galactic travel. Hitler even believed in this shit, but we all know he was nucking futs. Fuck I wish I could remember the names of the 2 alien races he told me about, FUCK its bothering me lol.

Yeh Hitler was also a vegetarian so that's why I never trust anybody who is lol.

Fun fact of the day.

He also had one nut and was a short mother fucker. Also ruined one of the most badass mustaches in history. What a douche.

National Press Club September 27, 2010. UFOs and Nuclear Weapon Bases. The whole thing is on youtube. Their here, they've always been here. Some look like us, others not so much. The main ones visiting earth are the Greys. Mostly to save their own ass from extinction. I hope the truth comes out one day. We're not alone in the universe, not by a long shot!

THANK YOU! There is still another one though, do you know?!?! I can kind of sleep now. But one of the 2 races I was talking about is for sure the Greys.

The others are called Pleiadians. They kind of look like us, at least more so then the Greys. The rumor is both met with with President Roosevelt in the 50s. The Pleiadians deal was we get rid of all our nuclear weapons and they will help us with our spiritual evolution.
The Greys said keep your nuclear weapons and we will share our technology with you, in exchange you have to let us abduct a number of people for medical experiments aka hybrid program. Roovevelt went with the Greys deal, only problem was they didn't bring all the people back. There are about 12,500 humans living somewhere in some kind of medical/prison camp off world. They are going to be so pissed if they ever make it back to earth.