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Dr Kain 07-21-2022 07:09 AM

I was able to get both a Lizard and animated Spidey. I'm not sure I really want the Spidey, but I figured I should preorder it now and cancel later than to decide I want it later and no longer have the chance to get it.

The annoying part is I had to wait for someone to post the links for them to show up because Lizard is not showing up when I just type in Marvel Lizard into the search bar.

TheBlueMarvel 07-21-2022 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sataninjaku (Post 902575)
Lizard's up:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marvel-Le...ll&athena=true

Thanks :thumbs

Nabbed the old timey Lizard.

However, that Spider Man is a pass as the shaded highlights are jarring and do a lot to obscure the sculpt. The colors, on the other hand, are satisfying making it even more of a disappointment.

Now that I have my first, and last, animated Legend - Storm, I can say from first hand experience that I'm not a fan of this experiment. As with Spider Man, the shading diminishes the sculpted details imo.

Arachnid13 07-21-2022 08:03 AM

Did Spider-Man steal Lizards dentures?

Kirathis 07-21-2022 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 902587)
Thanks :thumbs

Nabbed the old timey Lizard.

However, that Spider Man is a pass as the shaded highlights are jarring and do a lot to obscure the sculpt. The colors, on the other hand, are satisfying making it even more of a disappointment.

Now that I have my first, and last, animated Legend - Storm, I can say from first hand experience that I'm not a fan of this experiment. As with Spider Man, the shading diminishes the sculpted details imo.

I am a huge fan of cel shaded styling when applied to statically posed miniatures, statues or Gundam but have to agree that the application on action figures, particularly from Hasbro, has been mediocre at best. As you indicated, it often obscures sculpted details.

Cel shading also often creates a series of light and shadow that does not typically follow standard art practices which utilize a specific light source. This works well on the statically posed items as those lines never change. On an articulated action figure, it creates a disjointed appearance at any time where the figure is posed outside of the original(usually static standing) position.

It is a real shame but I am not overly surprised by the result.

Harbinger 07-21-2022 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachnid13 (Post 902594)
Did Spider-Man steal Lizards dentures?

Its the senior citizen variant. ;)

AFU 07-21-2022 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 902577)
I was able to get both a Lizard and animated Spidey. I'm not sure I really want the Spidey, but I figured I should preorder it now and cancel later than to decide I want it later and no longer have the chance to get it.

The annoying part is I had to wait for someone to post the links for them to show up because Lizard is not showing up when I just type in Marvel Lizard into the search bar.

On your point on Spiderman, I’m not sure either, my “spidey senses” are tingling, too! Lol. Something about the cell shading? I know I will eventually buy one of these figures with the cell shading (because I’m a sucker, Hasbro!). But, easy pass on Spidey, and all others figures with that cell shading.

Note: I know the mold is a little small for some, but I like it! If Hasbro re-uses the buck, and re-use the paint with the same color and outfit, no doubt I’m on that.

Dr Kain 07-21-2022 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFU (Post 902617)
On your point on Spiderman, I’m not sure either, my “spidey senses” are tingling, too! Lol. Something about the cell shading? I know I will eventually buy one of these figures with the cell shading (because I’m a sucker, Hasbro!). But, easy pass on Spidey, and all others figures with that cell shading.

Note: I know the mold is a little small for some, but I like it! If Hasbro re-uses the buck, and re-use the paint with the same color and outfit, no doubt I’m on that.

I think the mold is perfect for Spider-Man and I'm pretty sure it is the same mold as the Amazing Fantasy version, just without the hole for the webwings. A shame though, it would be perfect if I could put the webwings on that version.

Nimrod 07-21-2022 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachnid13 (Post 902594)
Did Spider-Man steal Lizards dentures?


Go to YT & check out the 60s episode with Lizard app, they based that head sculpt on that look.

StuartGreen2019 07-21-2022 12:24 PM

I keep trying to pre-order Lizard and Spider-Man, but it won't let me add them to the cart. Is anyone else having this problem?

The animated Spider-Man figure is here on Wal-Mart now, by the way: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marvel-Le...ries/425345222

Dr Kain 07-21-2022 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 902662)
Go to YT & check out the 60s episode with Lizard app, they based that head sculpt on that look.

More like they based it on the Romita Sr version.

Rhino just arrived:

https://i.imgur.com/LRp3DMn.jpg

Dr Kain 07-21-2022 02:46 PM

Well, these may be the last pics I take in our current apartment since I need to start packing up my camera equipment. Sad times.

https://i.imgur.com/0rcp2n0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1lO8z0Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GdUFAJU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/roeXunn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NaYTmj5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nUQU4zc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vgnwljo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ReIF2mm.jpg

TheBlueMarvel 07-21-2022 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirathis (Post 902605)
I am a huge fan of cel shaded styling when applied to statically posed miniatures, statues or Gundam but have to agree that the application on action figures, particularly from Hasbro, has been mediocre at best. As you indicated, it often obscures sculpted details.

Cel shading also often creates a series of light and shadow that does not typically follow standard art practices which utilize a specific light source. This works well on the statically posed items as those lines never change. On an articulated action figure, it creates a disjointed appearance at any time where the figure is posed outside of the original(usually static standing) position.

It is a real shame but I am not overly surprised by the result.

I agree that the more appropriate scenario for cel shading is on statues, but, honestly speaking, it's really a device best left for animation and gaming imo. Whether it's a statue, or figure, a key light is far more effective in casting natural shadows, as both statues and figs have sculpted details that can be exploited to greater effect.

I understand that this is nostalgia twice removed: first for Spidey/Marvel, then a redoubling for the associated 'toons. I also get the gimmick involved. Reuse and resale with the plausible deniability of 'we're giving you more chances to buy at retail figs that have soared beyond reach on the secondary market'. Albeit, animated Spidey looks to possibly be a preemptive reuse of a mold to be released in the near future.

I look at classified with green eyed envy, but I also wonder how long it'll be before it goes the way of Legends.

- As much as I like the new Rhino, I still prefer the old head sculpt and paint app...as well as the old pizza Spidey mold...and Miles' old costume.. oldy photos

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...720&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...720&fit=bounds

Dr Kain 07-21-2022 04:13 PM

Miles is the only figure I don't think Hasbro has improved yet because they haven't done his comic costume in newer form.

Those pictures are still jaw dropping no matter how many times I see them.

Kirathis 07-21-2022 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 902711)
I look at classified with green eyed envy, but I also wonder how long it'll be before it goes the way of Legends.

No need for Classified envy as the line has already greatly stepped into the reuse territory. There are now 4 Snake Eyes with virtually identical features and head swaps, 3 paint variants of the same Duke figure and plenty of body reuse to name only a few. The overlay gear hides a lot of the part reuse from view.

Then there is the sub-line which utilizes the already released figures with paint schemes closer to their cartoon coloring. Different line, same process. I am curious to see if Legends adopts some of the molds and articulation choices from Classified or if we end up seeing the articulated animals cross over as both are utterly fantastic.

TheBlueMarvel 07-21-2022 04:43 PM

Miles' original uni hasn't been surpassed, the design was that good imo

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirathis (Post 902726)
No need for Classified envy as the line has already greatly stepped into the reuse territory. There are now 4 Snake Eyes with virtually identical features and head swaps, 3 paint variants of the same Duke figure and plenty of body reuse to name only a few. The overlay gear hides a lot of the part reuse from view.

Then there is the sub-line which utilizes the already released figures with paint schemes closer to their cartoon coloring. Different line, same process. I am curious to see if Legends adopts some of the molds and articulation choices from Classified or if we end up seeing the articulated animals cross over as both are utterly fantastic.

Well, that sucks. Not collecting the line, I haven't developed an eye for the details. I have maybe six, or seven figs and plan to keep it that way.

Dr Kain 07-21-2022 05:04 PM

Nah, the Classified line is amazing.

JCarterVA 07-21-2022 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 902577)
I was able to get both a Lizard and animated Spidey. I'm not sure I really want the Spidey, but I figured I should preorder it now and cancel later than to decide I want it later and no longer have the chance to get it.

The annoying part is I had to wait for someone to post the links for them to show up because Lizard is not showing up when I just type in Marvel Lizard into the search bar.

I tried to get Spider-Man but it was canceled from my cart. I tried a few more times during the day and got the message too many people are ordering this item. Try later. I am interested in purchasing your Spider-Man if you get it and decide not to keep it. Or maybe a trade for something.
Let me know.

Sataninjaku 07-21-2022 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 902732)
Nah, the Classified line is amazing.

Agreed. IMHO, it's the finest mass-market 6" line available. There's certainly some parts re-use, there always has been with G.I. Joe, but it's always tastefully done (and far, FAR less of an issue than it was during the ME era of Joe). There's also not more than 80 versions of snake eyes yet like there is across the various 1/18 line. 4 (it's actually 5.5 counting the "field variant" and not including Fortnite SE) versions of SE in two years' time is exercising some serious restraint on Hasbro's part. People often cite the in-house nature of the franchise as a sign that Hasbro is greedy (and make no mistake; they are), that the line should be cheaper than BS or ML, blah, blah, blah,... but the savings on licensing fees are passed on to us in the form of greater attention to detail, load-outs, and in spite of the re-use, a ton of unique sculpt work. Yeah, it's an amazing line. I just hope it continues it's current trend.

AFU 07-22-2022 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 902711)
I agree that the more appropriate scenario for cel shading is on statues, but, honestly speaking, it's really a device best left for animation and gaming imo. Whether it's a statue, or figure, a key light is far more effective in casting natural shadows, as both statues and figs have sculpted details that can be exploited to greater effect.

I understand that this is nostalgia twice removed: first for Spidey/Marvel, then a redoubling for the associated 'toons. I also get the gimmick involved. Reuse and resale with the plausible deniability of 'we're giving you more chances to buy at retail figs that have soared beyond reach on the secondary market'. Albeit, animated Spidey looks to possibly be a preemptive reuse of a mold to be released in the near future.

I look at classified with green eyed envy, but I also wonder how long it'll be before it goes the way of Legends.

- As much as I like the new Rhino, I still prefer the old head sculpt and paint app...as well as the old pizza Spidey mold...and Miles' old costume.. oldy photos

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...720&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...720&fit=bounds

Great pics. I love both Rhinos (BAF and Retro). IMO, Retro Rhino, is a re-do done correctly, and didn’t feel like Hasbro stole my money…Lol…

Note: Is the Retro Rhino considered cel shading? If so, the blending of the color are done so natural like. And, if he is cel-shaded, I purchased my first cel shaded figure without even knowing it…Lol

Captain Nash 07-22-2022 01:04 PM

Ah, I missed this feeling. Feeling a twinge of anticipation for deep cuts, hoping for Stegron or Spot, and they roll out two characters I've never heard of (and haven't been mentioned here much either) and I'm disappointed again.

Yay....Human Fly....Razorback. LOL

*Throws up arms in lackluster faux excitement"

ThorOdinson123 07-22-2022 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 902864)
Ah, I missed this feeling. Feeling a twinge of anticipation for deep cuts, hoping for Stegron or Spot, and they roll out two characters I've never heard of (and haven't been mentioned here much either) and I'm disappointed again.

Yay....Human Fly....Razorback. LOL

*Throws up arms in lackluster faux excitement"

https://www.toyark.com/marvel-legend...-panel-188456/

I got all the new figs in this thread

the most exciting reveal for you guys is probably him

https://i.imgur.com/NU6IYTo.jpg

JCarterVA 07-22-2022 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123 (Post 902865)
https://www.toyark.com/marvel-legend...-panel-188456/

I got all the new figs in this thread

the most exciting reveal for you guys is probably him

https://i.imgur.com/NU6IYTo.jpg

Thanks for the pics. Scorpion and Old Man Loki and maybe the other Loki. Other than those guys, a lot of wasted plastic. Hasbro needs to fire Dan Yun and whatever other flunkies he has working for him. It would take me 15 minutes to make ML and MCU fans happy as the Grand Poba of ML. Who wants Army builders? We are doing pre-orders and making SHIELD, Skrulls, Hellfire Club guards, Spider-Man movie 3 pack with civilian heads, lab set and lab coats and webs, lots of webs. Finish Jim Lee X-Men and then on to John Byrne X-Men. No more Walmart and Target Exclusives. Don't need them. Danger room Haslab.

Captain Nash 07-22-2022 01:21 PM

Sigh. Absolutely nothing for me.

Unless Stegron's the Spider-Man BAF then I guess I'll be getting all that wave. I can't deny the thought of having a werewarthog is somewhat appealing though. Maybe we can get a weresquid at some point too.

Dr Kain 07-22-2022 01:22 PM

Nothing was shown off that I absolutely must own. I might get the Retro Card Beast so I can one on my Claremont X-Men shelves along with the 90s shelves. I'll most than likely end up getting Razorback and Human Fly since they'll most likely be in a Spidey wave I must own the BAF too. Still undecided about the Terrax pack, though I'll probably bite. The rest, not really feeling it. My thoughts on the underwhelming 20th anniversary line remain unmoved.

Sigh, still not Banshee...

Arachnid13 07-22-2022 01:29 PM

Super pumped for agony :D


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