Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 903893)

People who don't care for or about the AoA didn't like one of the dedicated X-waves of the year (two years in a row) having nothing for them. Any heavily themed wave can be a double-edged sword in that way. I loved the AoA waves (particularly the second) but the House of X Krakoa themed wave was a total pass for me, I'm sure though that some felt the opposite. Different strokes for different folks.

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 903901)

We have none of the Horsemen from that storyline except for Nemesis, who is in need of an update and for the fact that that wave was so hard to find. Quicksilver, Storm, Nightcrawler, Deadman Wade, Gambit, Havok, would all be welcome, and I'd personally also like to see Mystique, Damask, Dazzler and Bishop (who is so underrepresented in wishlists for this storyline, if not for him the timeline would never have reverted back, he's very key to this story.) Exodus, Banshee and Angel would also all be neat but I'm not that chuffed if we don't get them, even with Banshee being a key character in that book.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 903893)

People who don't care for or about the AoA didn't like one of the dedicated X-waves of the year (two years in a row) having nothing for them. Any heavily themed wave can be a double-edged sword in that way. I loved the AoA waves (particularly the second) but the House of X Krakoa themed wave was a total pass for me, I'm sure though that some felt the opposite. Different strokes for different folks.

Originally Posted by redfox (Post 903923)

Any sightings of the Controller BAF wave, yet??

Way too excited for that female SHIELD agent body! :D

Originally Posted by redfox (Post 903923)

Any sightings of the Controller BAF wave, yet??

Way too excited for that female SHIELD agent body! :D

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 903883)

No problem, BM! Thank you for the Shakespearean (or, honestly, Lee-esque) soliloquy, you summed very eloquently the exact problems I’ve had with the MCU for some time. Namely: gah, I am glad someone agrees with me about the ambling, aimless nature of what they’re doing right now! Bonus points for use of the word “mishegosh.” And “things slightly adjacent to what I want” is hilarious.

On the Marvel Legends front, boy it is hard to admit that the Legends team isn’t at fault for everything, isn’t it? I’ve been petulant ever since they announced the AOA wave in 2019 (which I still hold was a mistake). It drove me nuts after watching that interview to admit that I had to be mad at bureaucracy, not the ML team, for the lack of Guardians 3000 figures. That said, we wouldn’t have this problem if the character selection was more in-line with fan demand.

I’m going to conclude by borrowing someone else’s words to summarize my opinions. Here’s a Fwoosh post that highlights my problems with the line:

“It can go both ways. I get that there are a lot of people who are happy to expand the cast of characters for their comic universe shelf, I am one of these people to a point. These 2 are deeps cuts that I've never read a comic they've been in, and I don't find them to be visually engaging enough to be excited about putting them on my shelves.

At this price point, they are even less likely to sell to casual collectors (people looking for more well-known characters) which will not reflect well in sales and hurt future chances of such obscure characters being made. This is where the price increase will really hurt a sub-set of collectors who are anxious to get these D-listers, only to see them sit largely unsold and give retailers pause about ordering waves with lesser known characters in the future. If things continue in this direction, some folks better hope to get their favorite D-lister now, as I don't see it being sustainable the way inflation is going.”

Edit: for the record, the “brand confusion” comment originated earlier, but has been reiterated ad nauseam because, as evidenced by this thread, it got people interested in specifics. I believe it started when they announced Falcon, explaining that they were unable to make him for years due to a contractual request from their licensors not to produce comics versions of secondary MCU characters.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 903980)

I became more disgruntled as the animated features worsened and my only options were Planet Hulk (which still had licensing stuff) and Hulk VS. At least I could feel invested in the animated side of things, but now even that's gone.

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 903987)

It's often baffled me that Marvel hasn't cooked up a response to DC's regularly churned out animated movies. The DC offerings aren't always winners but we've gotten a good chunk of gold that the fandom readily embraces and hold with the same regard as the better live-action adaptations. It seems like they tried to at one point (as we got the projects you referenced) but just said "screw it, the MCU will be up and printing legal tender in no time" and gave up.

Originally Posted by Kirathis (Post 904009)

Completely agreed TBM! The offerings were sub par without McDuffie. I have said for years that the two companies could learn something from each other in the way DC handled animation (until recently) vs Marvel's handling of live action.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 903980)

I do a lot of complaining, but truthfully, this Hasbro team is pretty awesome in what they've given me as a collector and an old-man comic fan. Sure, there are things I still want, there are also numerous instances in which they come so close that the failure to deliver feels intentional, but my grousing is mostly from being spoiled by them.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 904017)

Know something? Your post made me really stop to think about how cool this line is. It’s easy to get lost in “where’s Stingray?” or “why’s Tigra based on her modern look?” and easy to forget how crazy it is that I have the luxury to bitch about my super-articulated, detailed Tigra figure. We’re at a point in the line where our collective complaint is Banshee. Banshee! The depth and breadth of ML is unparalleled (we have three Dazzlers!), and I’m guilty of being unappreciative of that.

To one of your other points, I am so happy to see someone else galvanize Dwayne McDuffie as the immense talent that he was. Those cartoons were my gateway drug into comics, particularly JLU. His episode “To Another Shore” sticks out to me as some of the best writing (not TV, not comics, *writing*) I’ve ever encountered. The heart and hope that he brought to the DC Universe is to me the essence of comic book heroes.

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 904021)

Yeah, I'm still waiting for appropriately scaled fists that I don't have to paint and match for Wonder Man and Namor, but I'm getting Morg, Nova, Firelord AND the Fallen One. Lol I know I'm 1 of maybe 10 (lol adjusted my numbers from the last time I said some shit like this ;) ) people here that want those characters. I can't really grumble too much.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 904017)

Know something? Your post made me really stop to think about how cool this line is. It’s easy to get lost in “where’s Stingray?” or “why’s Tigra based on her modern look?” and easy to forget how crazy it is that I have the luxury to bitch about my super-articulated, detailed Tigra figure. We’re at a point in the line where our collective complaint is Banshee. Banshee! The depth and breadth of ML is unparalleled (we have three Dazzlers!), and I’m guilty of being unappreciative of that.

To one of your other points, I am so happy to see someone else galvanize Dwayne McDuffie as the immense talent that he was. Those cartoons were my gateway drug into comics, particularly JLU. His episode “To Another Shore” sticks out to me as some of the best writing (not TV, not comics, *writing*) I’ve ever encountered. The heart and hope that he brought to the DC Universe is to me the essence of comic book heroes.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 904059)

So, the Chester Cheetah comparison is actually funny, because when the figure came out, I maintained that Tigra should be less “Cheeto” orange and more “Goldfish cracker” orange. I was hoping for her to have a different head/ hair as well.

And of the heralds, they’re another goofy example of my character selection quibbles: more heralds is something I’ve been hoping for since I started collecting. And then announce a whole bunch, but leave out my boy, Air-Walker!

… I really thought we’d get him before Morg and Fallen One, but here we are! :P

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 904059)

So, the Chester Cheetah comparison is actually funny, because when the figure came out, I maintained that Tigra should be less “Cheeto” orange and more “Goldfish cracker” orange. I was hoping for her to have a different head/ hair as well.

Originally Posted by Ultra Seven (Post 904059)

So, the Chester Cheetah comparison is actually funny, because when the figure came out, I maintained that Tigra should be less “Cheeto” orange and more “Goldfish cracker” orange. I was hoping for her to have a different head/ hair as well.

And of the heralds, they’re another goofy example of my character selection quibbles: more heralds is something I’ve been hoping for since I started collecting. And then announce a whole bunch, but leave out my boy, Air-Walker!

… I really thought we’d get him before Morg and Fallen One, but here we are! :P

Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 904069)

Also if we're getting Heralds of Galactus I'd love an Aunt May. She's one of my favorite heralds. Big shout out and thank you to Black Arbor by the way. It's because of him I'm getting my Galactus.