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TheBlueMarvel 03-01-2023 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyne98 (Post 916041)
I saw Dan Yun's most recent post on Instagram. He had a number of the retro card Avengers shown off and said something about the old Avengers Arcade Game. I remember Hawkeye flew a sky cycle in that. I wonder if that's a hint to something we're going to see today since it's long been rumored.
That game had a number of villains that have been made, but it also had the Wizard and the Mandarin. Given that Hasbro is trying to pull out all the stops in light of the discontent among collectors, I wouldn't be surprised to see either. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Hawkeye with posthumously late sky-cycle well after they discontinued the 'legendary riders' offerings.

Archangel 03-01-2023 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123 (Post 915993)
Amazon Exclusive comic Gorr is back in stock if anyone needs it
That’s a great figure if anyone doesn’t have it yet.

Captain Nash 03-01-2023 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 916044)
That game had a number of villains that have been made, but it also had the Wizard and the Mandarin. Given that Hasbro is trying to pull out all the stops in light of the discontent among collectors, I wouldn't be surprised to see either. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Hawkeye with posthumously late sky-cycle well after they discontinued the 'legendary riders' offerings.
I sure hope so. The Wizard is one of the bigger missing names in the line, overall. I mean, he's a high second tier F4 villain.

And a new Mandarin, in either a new outfit or redone from the faceoff design...it needs to happen SO BADLY. The TB Mandarin is not TB Lady Deathstrike levels of awful, but he's up there.

Dr Kain 03-01-2023 10:16 AM
Missed the livestream, but based on what I see shown on Marvelous News, here are some thoughts of the ones I care about:

Rose and Tarantula will be instant buys, but it sucks they aren't using pinless joints.

Sad that I have to buy an animated two pack to get an Aunt May figure, but at least the bendy wire arms are compatible with the classic Doc Ock. As such, I will preorder them for sure.'

The Adaptoid is cool because I just encountered him in my X-Men comics, but I'm not intersted in the rest of the wae to build him. Widow looks good, but do I really need another version of Widow???

Grey Hulk and Bruce looks cool, but I'll let the price decide for me.

That's about it.

hasbroherofan 03-01-2023 11:48 AM
The video game tease was 100 percent the sky cycle. I don't know about the rest of the villains.

GizmoTron 03-01-2023 12:11 PM
I would love a retro card 90s Mandarin, but I've long wondered if the character is on Marvel's "black list" or not with guys like comic Ancient One.

Nothing stopping them from doing the Wizard someday, like most villains he just needs an opportunity.

TheBlueMarvel 03-01-2023 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 916073)
I would love a retro card 90s Mandarin, but I've long wondered if the character is on Marvel's "black list" or not with guys like comic Ancient One.

Nothing stopping them from doing the Wizard someday, like most villains he just needs an opportunity.
It's not a Marvel or Hasbro “blacklist” scenario as much as these characters were created with ‘Yellow Peril’ sensibilities and their original looks evoke racist Fu Manchu imagery. The scuttlebutt regarding the MCU Ancient One, was more about his backstory and being from Tibet. The celebration of Tibetan culture was seen as potentially problematic, so Feige altered the character to promote viewership in China. No “blacklist.” No altruism, either. Just money, as usual.

Hulkwummy 03-01-2023 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 916073)
I would love a retro card 90s Mandarin, but I've long wondered if the character is on Marvel's "black list" or not with guys like comic Ancient One.

Nothing stopping them from doing the Wizard someday, like most villains he just needs an opportunity.
I'd go for a retro carded Mandarin from the 90s Iron Man cartoon.

En Sabah Nerd 03-01-2023 02:02 PM
None of these reveals really grabbed me. My biggest disappointment is that the Super Skrull in the two-pack isn't Kl'rt but instead the one-off Illuminati infiltrator. I'm also let down by the Bruce/Hulk pack, really just the Bruce. This Grey Hulk looks fine but I already have the retro-cardback Grey Hulk. The fabric on Hawkeye looks pretty cheap but it allows to him actually sit and I imagine it can be sort of hidden at that point.

GizmoTron 03-01-2023 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 916080)
It's not a Marvel or Hasbro “blacklist” scenario as much as these characters were created with ‘Yellow Peril’ sensibilities and their original looks evoke racist Fu Manchu imagery. The scuttlebutt regarding the MCU Ancient One, was more about his backstory and being from Tibet. The celebration of Tibetan culture was seen as potentially problematic, so Feige altered the character to promote viewership in China. No “blacklist.” No altruism, either. Just money, as usual.
The reason is of course money, specifically in Ancient One's case the sales from China, but it has long carried over beyond just the MCU. An actual "blacklist" is theoretical, but technically exists since we know there are many characters or versions of characters that have never been made by Hasbro and we can easily guess the various reasons why they are likely not approved whether because licensor, Hasbro management/legal, or maybe even both. Mandarin I fear really is among them.

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Originally Posted by Hulkwummy (Post 916085)
I'd go for a retro carded Mandarin from the 90s Iron Man cartoon.
He's maybe my #2 or #3 most wanted non-Spidey or non-X-Men Marvel villain left from Legends. Which is why it's unfortunate that he may never happen. (Unless they try to backdoor him into a HasLab like they tried with Mephisto, but we saw how that turned out).

Captain Nash 03-01-2023 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 916095)
The reason is of course money, specifically in Ancient One's case the sales from China, but it has long carried over beyond just the MCU. An actual "blacklist" is theoretical, but technically exists since we know there are many characters or versions of characters that have never been made by Hasbro and we can easily guess the various reasons why they are likely not approved whether because licensor, Hasbro management/legal, or maybe even both. Mandarin I fear really is among them.
That's my fear too, and why they switched up the character sooooo much in the MCU. Both times. It's a shame because as one of Iron Man's main villains, if not his archnemesis (at least prior to the films), having the eyesore that is the Toy Biz figure stand out so much is annoying.

Hulkwummy 03-01-2023 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 916095)
The reason is of course money, specifically in Ancient One's case the sales from China, but it has long carried over beyond just the MCU. An actual "blacklist" is theoretical, but technically exists since we know there are many characters or versions of characters that have never been made by Hasbro and we can easily guess the various reasons why they are likely not approved whether because licensor, Hasbro management/legal, or maybe even both. Mandarin I fear really is among them.



He's maybe my #2 or #3 most wanted non-Spidey or non-X-Men Marvel villain left from Legends. Which is why it's unfortunate that he may never happen. (Unless they try to backdoor him into a HasLab like they tried with Mephisto, but we saw how that turned out).
Couldn't they release both Mandarin and Mephisto as Hasbro Pulse Exclusives?

firmpulse 03-01-2023 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulkwummy (Post 916104)
Couldn't they release both Mandarin and Mephisto as Hasbro Pulse Exclusives?
Dude. That's way too simple of a solution. So no. Absolutely not.

Harbinger 03-01-2023 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 916106)
Dude. That's way too simple of a solution. So no. Absolutely not.
Id rather it be a fans channel so at least theyd be sold over multiple places.

Hulkwummy 03-01-2023 04:01 PM
Fan channel is good, as long as we get Mandarin and Mephisto in Marvel Legends form. But on the other hand, if Mandarin and Mephisto are release as Hasbro pulse exclusives, hasbro would have to worry about any backlashes of controversial figures sold in stores.

TheBlueMarvel 03-01-2023 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 916095)
The reason is of course money, specifically in Ancient One's case the sales from China, but it has long carried over beyond just the MCU. An actual "blacklist" is theoretical, but technically exists since we know there are many characters or versions of characters that have never been made by Hasbro and we can easily guess the various reasons why they are likely not approved whether because licensor, Hasbro management/legal, or maybe even both. Mandarin I fear really is among them.
I think you are swapping opinion for theory there, but I understand where you are coming from. I doubt there is a figure blacklist but I agree that certain figures just won’t be made and I also fear that the Mandarin is one of those characters. The look of the Mandarin isn’t exactly offensive, to me, but I do think he happens to look like a call back to “yellow peril” characters like Fu Manchu making him less than ideal within our modern context.

GizmoTron 03-01-2023 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulkwummy (Post 916104)
Couldn't they release both Mandarin and Mephisto as Hasbro Pulse Exclusives?
I don't know it for a fact, but there seems to be an issue that Hasbro is either unwilling to or unable to sell some characters directly, and instead might only be able to do it as like an accessory. Like "buy this car and get a free figure" deal. Of course then when no one buys the car, then no extra figure, but that's a different issue.


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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 916114)
I think you are swapping opinion for theory there, but I understand where you are coming from. I doubt there is a figure blacklist but I agree that certain figures just won’t be made and I also fear that the Mandarin is one of those characters. The look of the Mandarin isn’t exactly offensive, to me, but I do think he happens to look like a call back to “yellow peril” characters like Fu Manchu making him less than ideal within our modern context.
Well theoretical as in I doubt there's an actual physical list posted on the wall at Hasbro’s headquarters, but just the same I'm sure there are many potential figures the design team just treats as off limits, and very likely more than a few they tried to make but were shot down.

Veronica Mars 03-02-2023 12:57 AM
Been a minute.... doesn't seem like much has changed around these parts though. My disappointments with the livestream are no real comic She-Hulk and no classic Mockingbird, also that new Spider Woman costume seems like an odd choice considering that it was used against Jessica to drain and destabilize her powers, and was only worn in like maybe 6 issues of her last solo title if that. Also I would have preferred classic green Sersi

Dr Kain 03-02-2023 06:57 AM
When does the May/Ock pack go up and on what sites?

Veronica Mars 03-02-2023 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 916162)
When does the May/Ock pack go up and on what sites?
Today on pulse, probably around 1pm est

Dr Kain 03-02-2023 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 916164)
Today on pulse, probably around 1pm est
So I learned and apparently Pulse doesn't do free shipping anymore on orders over $50, which is bullshit.

Boogieman4hire 03-02-2023 12:41 PM
Well they definitely brought it yesterday..I know all that stuff was on the leaky list but it's something else to actually see it. It sucks having to be more responsible and selective with money. Also while I bet all of you are probably right about Giant Man being the Haslab I'm still in the camp of wanting Fin Fang Foom more.

firmpulse 03-02-2023 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 916182)
Well they definitely brought it yesterday..I know all that stuff was on the leaky list but it's something else to actually see it...
I agree completely. Was especially excited to see DDElektra, SW Doom, New Bucky Cap and several others.

You're also right about being more selective. Did anyone else notice Starting Lineup figs are now permanently priced at $29.99?

Trivial Psychic 03-02-2023 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 916185)
Did anyone else notice Starting Lineup figs are now permanently priced at $29.99?
It's because they dropped the bull**** NFT scam cards that nobody gave a rip about from the overall package.

AFU 03-02-2023 04:28 PM
From the live stream, was not very interested in the MCU figures waves. Enjoyed seeing that Doc Ock with the bendable tentacles, and the Ben Reiley figures looked very interesting. Also liked seeing the Avengers Anniversary figures. Hulk and Banner, and the Skrull Soilders, I am on the fence about, but the Thor and Destroyer, Hawkeye and skycycle, Ironman and Bucky Cap are must haves for me. The giant Skrull Soilder does look interesting, and I think I will end up getting this because it so unique and different. But the star of the stream for me, was Black Widow, to me, she looks great.


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